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Definitive list from the powerful and attractive GlasgowKISS

Paul - German/Polish
Gene - Hungarian/Israeli
Ace - German/Dutch/Native American
Peter - Italian...the surname originates in Sardinia
Eric C - Italian...the surname originates in Sicily
Vinnie - Italian...the surname originates around Modena
Mark - Unsure, but the surname Norton would indicate English
Bruce - Russian
Eric S - German...the surname originates in Lower Saxony - his middle name of Doyle would suggest there's some Irish in there too!
Tommy- Southwest English/Scottish (probably Ayrshire)
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Paul is Jewish, not Italian. Father from Poland and mother from Germany
Bruce, again not Italian but Jewish.
Eric S, German background, not Jewish
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While it's certainly possible to be both Italian and Jewish (trust me :wink: ),
I've never heard of Paul having an Italian background.

Perhaps you're just hungry for some lasagna soup?
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FiveCardStud wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 5:23 pm Paul - Italian German
Gene - Israel
Ace - Cherokee and German
Peter - Italian Irish
Eric c - American Italian
Vv - Italian
Mark - I don’t know I heard German or maybe that was just a certain comment in peters book
Bruce - Italian Jewish ?
Eric S - Jewish German (yep)
Tommy- all American man


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I think their label mates The Village People might have them edged out (on the most multi cultured group).
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Wikipedia's not a great resource for actual facts on ... anything. But its someplace to start, especially if you don't really give a shit. But Wikipedia is under the impression that Eric Singer is, in fact, Jewish. It states that ...

Singer was born Eric Doyle Mensinger in Cleveland, Ohio. He grew up in Euclid, Ohio. His father, Johnny Mensinger, was of Jewish German descent and was a local big band leader who played around the area as well as on cruise ships from the States to Europe and back.

So ... the entire Revenge lineup was Jewish.
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How does a Kiss fan not know Paul is Jewish?
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Bruce wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 7:22 pm Wikipedia's not a great resource for actual facts on ... anything. But its someplace to start, especially if you don't really give a shit. But Wikipedia is under the impression that Eric Singer is, in fact, Jewish. It states that ...

Singer was born Eric Doyle Mensinger in Cleveland, Ohio. He grew up in Euclid, Ohio. His father, Johnny Mensinger, was of Jewish German descent and was a local big band leader who played around the area as well as on cruise ships from the States to Europe and back.

So ... the entire Revenge lineup was Jewish.
He is not Jewish.
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A bunch of white guys the most multicultural band in history?
Perhaps no, but their backgrounds are a good illustration of how America was built, by immigrants.
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So is the suggestion here that these sorts of backgrounds are somehow unusual amongst American bands? :scratch:
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Well when you've had 26 members its bound to happen. For a group of white dudes I'd say The Ramones may give them a run for most Jewish & Catholic members in a band from NYC.
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8 out of 10 you listed as either German or Italian. So, no?
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Black Ace from the Phantom not mentioned yet?


Funny detail that we had 3 short drummers, who all gave up a part of their last name, Criscoula, Carravelo and Mensinger.
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andykiss78 wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 6:23 pm Paul is Jewish, not Italian. Father from Poland and mother from Germany
Bruce, again not Italian but Jewish.
Eric S, German background, not Jewish
Lots of assumptions by the OP then! But from now on, I want to believe Paul is Italian. He looks like it anyway. Like Fox Mulder, I WANT TO BELIEVE.
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Depends on your definition of "multi"
If you think it means "three" then yes.
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FiveCardStud wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 5:23 pm Paul - Italian German
Gene - Israel
Ace - Cherokee and German
Peter - Italian Irish
Eric c - American Italian
Vv - Italian
Mark - I don’t know I heard German or maybe that was just a certain comment in peters book
Bruce - Italian Jewish ?
Eric S - Jewish German (yep)
Tommy- all American man


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Is this a joke post...
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That guy is the most clueless person on the board, I’ve been laughing my ass off at most of his posts. He’s either a ten year old kid or a total moron.
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FiveCardStud wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 5:23 pm Mark - I don’t know I heard German or maybe that was just a certain comment in peters book
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I imagine if you picked the first four guys you met in a bar in NYC to make up a band, chances are it would be a similar composition of ethnicities. Kiss aren't diverse - they're just a random sample of New Yorkers.

When it comes down to it we're all mongrels to an extent, which is why it's foolish to hang on to your race or ethnic origin in an exceptionalist way...even the WASPiest Anglo-Saxon is a mongrel dating back to when the Angles from Denmark started getting down and dirty with the Saxons from Germany.
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jannep17 wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 10:05 pm A bunch of white guys the most multicultural band in history?
Perhaps no, but their backgrounds are a good illustration of how America was built, by immigrants.
Multi cultural is not multi racial
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I think some people here are a little slow

You can be Italian and Jewish by the way they aren’t mutually exclusive
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whitesnake7575 wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 2:50 am That guy is the most clueless person on the board, I’ve been laughing my ass off at most of his posts. He’s either a ten year old kid or a total moron.
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When you look at their actual ethnicities, they provide a snapshot of the melting pot that America is:

Paul - German/Polish
Gene - Hungarian/Israeli
Ace - German/Dutch/Native American
Peter - Italian...the surname originates in Sardinia
Eric C - Italian...the surname originates in Sicily
Vinnie - Italian...the surname originates around Modena
Mark - Unsure, but the surname Norton would indicate English
Bruce - Russian
Eric S - German...the surname originates in Lower Saxony - his middle name of Doyle would suggest there's some Irish in there too!
Tommy- Southwest English/Scottish (probably Ayrshire)
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FiveCardStud wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 3:47 am I think some people here are a little slow

You can be Italian and Jewish by the way they aren’t mutually exclusive
We know that professor.

But Paul is not Italian whatsoever and neither is Bruce.



Where did you come up with this crap???
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FiveCardStud wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 3:37 am
jannep17 wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 10:05 pm A bunch of white guys the most multicultural band in history?
Perhaps no, but their backgrounds are a good illustration of how America was built, by immigrants.
Multi cultural is not multi racial
I know, but still, they all have very similar cultures. Judeo-Christian backgrounds. If you had thrown in a Hindu and a Buddhist, I would have agreed.
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Glasgow Kiss wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 4:15 am When you look at their actual ethnicities, they provide a snapshot of the melting pot that America is:

Paul - German/Polish
Gene - Hungarian/Israeli
Ace - German/Dutch/Native American
Peter - Italian...the surname originates in Sardinia
Eric C - Italian...the surname originates in Sicily
Vinnie - Italian...the surname originates around Modena
Mark - Unsure, but the surname Norton would indicate English
Bruce - Russian
Eric S - German...the surname originates in Lower Saxony - his middle name of Doyle would suggest there's some Irish in there too!
Tommy- Southwest English/Scottish (probably Ayrshire)

Good summary...although I'd add Peter is half Irish (mother) and half Italian. But good stuff! Something the OP needs to look at. But I think they are just shit stirring.
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andykiss78 wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 4:21 am
Glasgow Kiss wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 4:15 am When you look at their actual ethnicities, they provide a snapshot of the melting pot that America is:

Paul - German/Polish
Gene - Hungarian/Israeli
Ace - German/Dutch/Native American
Peter - Italian...the surname originates in Sardinia
Eric C - Italian...the surname originates in Sicily
Vinnie - Italian...the surname originates around Modena
Mark - Unsure, but the surname Norton would indicate English
Bruce - Russian
Eric S - German...the surname originates in Lower Saxony - his middle name of Doyle would suggest there's some Irish in there too!
Tommy- Southwest English/Scottish (probably Ayrshire)

Good summary...although I'd add Peter is half Irish (mother) and half Italian. But good stuff! Something the OP needs to look at. But I think they are just shit stirring.
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Glasgow Kiss wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 3:23 am Kiss aren't diverse - they're just a random sample of New Yorkers.
That would be true in past decades, but New York is now way more multi cultural than what the guys in Kiss would represent. Especially in Queens, where Gene and Paul grew up. It's one of the most multicultural areas in the entire country.
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andykiss78 wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 9:37 pm He is not Jewish.
Very well ...
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.....not that it really matters anyway.....
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Bruce wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 6:26 am
andykiss78 wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 9:37 pm He is not Jewish.
Very well ...
When Eric was the drummer for Brian May, he came and played in Adelaide, Australia. This was during the Reunion era. We were all outside the venue just chatting to Eric and someone asked what it was like being in KISS. He said...."I think I was the first German to be in a Jewish concentration camp".
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Never let your employers know you lack job satisfaction -- how could Eric forget The Golden Rule? Lie, dammit -- say only that working for your Betters is ...your very paradise! That's how you do it ...
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4 white Americans. Incredibly multicultural.
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FiveCardStud wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 5:23 pm Definitive list from the powerful and attractive GlasgowKISS

Paul - German/Polish
Gene - Hungarian/Israeli
Ace - German/Dutch/Native American
Peter - Italian...the surname originates in Sardinia
Eric C - Italian...the surname originates in Sicily
Vinnie - Italian...the surname originates around Modena
Mark - Unsure, but the surname Norton would indicate English
Bruce - Russian
Eric S - German...the surname originates in Lower Saxony - his middle name of Doyle would suggest there's some Irish in there too!
Tommy- Southwest English/Scottish (probably Ayrshire)
Hardly, they're all white Americans with the exception of Gene who was born in Israel.

If you want to trace the genetic heritage of any band you'll likely find exactly the same if not a far broader cultural/ethnic/racial lineage.
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andykiss78 wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 4:16 am
FiveCardStud wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 3:47 am I think some people here are a little slow

You can be Italian and Jewish by the way they aren’t mutually exclusive
We know that professor.

But Paul is not Italian whatsoever and neither is Bruce.



Where did you come up with this crap???
Well, how do you account for his lasagna soup then?
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highvoltage1969 wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 7:06 am
FiveCardStud wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 5:23 pm Definitive list from the powerful and attractive GlasgowKISS

Paul - German/Polish
Gene - Hungarian/Israeli
Ace - German/Dutch/Native American
Peter - Italian...the surname originates in Sardinia
Eric C - Italian...the surname originates in Sicily
Vinnie - Italian...the surname originates around Modena
Mark - Unsure, but the surname Norton would indicate English
Bruce - Russian
Eric S - German...the surname originates in Lower Saxony - his middle name of Doyle would suggest there's some Irish in there too!
Tommy- Southwest English/Scottish (probably Ayrshire)
Hardly, they're all white Americans with the exception of Gene who was born in Israel.

If you want to trace the genetic heritage of any band you'll likely find exactly the same if not a far broader cultural/ethnic/racial lineage.
I should of been clearer, as GK pointed out this was more about the output of the mass immigration to New York and how this came out from that.
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