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Animalize turns 35 today....

Post by KrazySwede » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:49 am

Time flies…..pretty sure I bought that album along with Maidens 'Powerslave' and a U2-single 'Pride'.....in Helsingborg....

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Post by wezze » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:56 am

I bought it with Asylum and Stay Hungry. On cassette.

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Re: Animalize turns 35 today....

Post by jkiss » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:09 am

Time sure did. In retrospect, hard to feel good about '1984' with all that terrifying news about what was really happening to some people. And would only become even more terrifying before long. Certainly one KISS album that doesn't hold-up for me these days (save "Heaven's on Fire" - perfect); although, I thought it was 'good enough' when released. I don't care for Mark St. John's solos & the unusual/contrived faster pace of some of the songs. Plus, Gene's contributions really come-off as lackluster ...likely a result of his then new hobby in Hollywood. I guess one KISS album that didn't age well overall; as far as I'm concerned.

I was probably more excited about bands like Van Halen or even Duran Duran at that given moment; nonetheless, still pleased enough KISS made it thought the storm. However, it surely wasn't the 1970s, anymore.

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Re: Animalize turns 35 today....

Post by KrazySwede » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:56 am

wezze wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:56 am
I bought it with Asylum and Stay Hungry. On cassette.
Mid80s - big years for KISS....and metal.
jkiss wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:09 am
Time sure did. In retrospect, hard to feel good about '1984' with all that terrifying news about what was really happening to some people. And would only become even more terrifying before long. Certainly one KISS album that doesn't hold-up for me these days (save "Heaven's on Fire" - perfect); although, I thought it was 'good enough' when released. I don't care for Mark St. John's solos & the unusual/contrived faster pace of some of the songs. Plus, Gene's contributions really come-off as lackluster ...likely a result of his then new hobby in Hollywood. I guess one KISS album that didn't age well overall; as far as I'm concerned.

I was probably more excited about bands like Van Halen or even Duran Duran at that given moment; nonetheless, still pleased enough KISS made it thought the storm. However, it surely wasn't the 1970s, anymore.

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Thinks it still delivers some great energy……..one of a handful of KISS-albums that gets played regularly….

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KrazySwede wrote:
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Thinks it still delivers some great energy……..one of a handful of KISS-albums that gets played regularly….
I absolutely can understand & respect that; as I once had a far higher overall opinion of the album myself. Maybe for me - "I've Had Enough (Into The Fire)" would be an example of one that easily came-off having some real energy to it.

I almost wonder what that particular studio track would've sounded like with Bruce on lead; as a 'what if'.

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Re: Animalize turns 35 today....

Post by FlamingRuth » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:17 am

Animalize songs I still enjoy:

I've Had Enough
Heaven's on Fire
Lonely is the Hunter
Under the Gun
Thrills in the Night
& While the City Sleeps


Only a few have become unlistenable, so that's not too bad.
I had a lot of fun in 1984 and this album reminds me of good times. 8)

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Post by vdojaq » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:28 am

When I need a solid lift me up to change my mood, Burn Bitch Burn turned up to 11 is still my go to song.

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Post by Bruce » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:30 am

Happy birthday!! Mark St John's contributions to the record are noteworthy -- he played with style and attitude and he just made Animalize sound like something fun. Can't say enough good things about that.

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Post by KlevelandKissFreak » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:34 am

I still listen to it regularly and have bought it 3 times.

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Post by caligari » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:34 am

Got it 35 yrs ago on the day of release.

I’d already heard “heavens on fire”: a catchy yet dumbed down single like the previous “lick it up”.

Loved the first track, but it was downhill after that.
I did not enjoy the songs/writing like on the previous album. That’s when I realized how important Vinnie really was to the “new” KISS.

With the acceptation of a couple solos, I was not too excited about MSJ.

I thought the production sounded thin & did not have the crunch of the previous LP. Most of Gene’s songs were subpar.

I was actually sad because I wanted to like the album more than I did.

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“While The City Sleeps” is the title of a silent movie starring Gene’s idol: Lon Chaney Sr., The Man of 1,000 Faces.
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Post by Crown Royal » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:36 am

Thrills in the Night

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Post by DOUBLE DYNASTY » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:42 am

Great, great album. This, along with Asylum were perhaps my favorite KISS albums of the 80's. I had both of them on cassette.

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Post by wezze » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:00 am

KlevelandKissFreak wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:34 am
I still listen to it regularly and have bought it 3 times.
Come to think of it, so have I. Cassette, CD and the remastered version.

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Post by wezze » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:01 am

vdojaq wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:28 am
When I need a solid lift me up to change my mood, Burn Bitch Burn turned up to 11 is still my go to song.
Maybe you should get a new girlfriend...

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Re: Animalize turns 35 today....

Post by battra » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:07 am

When I heard Heaven's On Fire back in the day...it was immediately one of my favorite songs.

When I got it on CD years later, it was the first time I'd heard the whole album front to back and hated it.

I wonder how I'd feel if I'd heard it all in context.

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Post by vdojaq » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:14 am

wezze wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:01 am
vdojaq wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:28 am
When I need a solid lift me up to change my mood, Burn Bitch Burn turned up to 11 is still my go to song.
Maybe you should get a new girlfriend...
C'mon, that is such a fun Gene song! All the pure schlock and innuendo in those lyrics? My wife just shakes her head and laughs when I blast that.

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Post by PsychoElder » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:48 am

Great album!!!! Happy 35th Birthday Animalize!!!!

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Post by mamado » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:59 am

The beginning of the end for this fella here. South & sour it went... But, hey... What do I know, anyway??? :| :| :| :flower:


Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1djpqeA3j8

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Post by Tito » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:20 pm

Surprisingly :roll: KISS Alive Forever: The Book on Facebook: "KISS's Animalize WAS NOT released on this day in 1984. It was delayed until September 17, 1984 due to the fact that PolyGram felt the album needed to be remixed prior to release. September 13 had been the scheduled release date but the remix caused a delay of four days."

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Post by wezze » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:37 pm

vdojaq wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:14 am
wezze wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:01 am
vdojaq wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:28 am
When I need a solid lift me up to change my mood, Burn Bitch Burn turned up to 11 is still my go to song.
Maybe you should get a new girlfriend...
C'mon, that is such a fun Gene song! All the pure schlock and innuendo in those lyrics? My wife just shakes her head and laughs when I blast that.
JeAh, silly but fun. The least bad Gene song on that album.

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Re: Animalize turns 35 today....

Post by KrazySwede » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:52 pm

Tito wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:20 pm
Surprisingly :roll: KISS Alive Forever: The Book on Facebook: "KISS's Animalize WAS NOT released on this day in 1984. It was delayed until September 17, 1984 due to the fact that PolyGram felt the album needed to be remixed prior to release. September 13 had been the scheduled release date but the remix caused a delay of four days."
Danger of relying on wiki too much….thx for the info.....

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Post by Andy Capp » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:57 pm

Animalize songs I play ALOT-- :

I've Had Enough (into the fire)
Burn Bitch Burn
Lonely is The Hunter
Under The Gun
Thrills in The Night
While The City Sleeps

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Post by acevog75 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:06 pm

I got Animalize and The Last in Line for Christmas.

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Post by LordThurisaz » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:13 pm

Bruce wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:30 am
Happy birthday!! Mark St John's contributions to the record are noteworthy -- he played with style and attitude and he just made Animalize sound like something fun. Can't say enough good things about that.
Same. I enjoy the entire album, which isn't true of the rest of the 80s output once they took the makeup off. Asylum is close, but one or two songs needed some more work on them.

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jkiss wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:09 am
Time sure did. In retrospect, hard to feel good about '1984' with all that terrifying news about what was really happening to some people. And would only become even more terrifying before long. Certainly one KISS album that doesn't hold-up for me these days (save "Heaven's on Fire" - perfect); although, I thought it was 'good enough' when released. I don't care for Mark St. John's solos & the unusual/contrived faster pace of some of the songs. Plus, Gene's contributions really come-off as lackluster ...likely a result of his then new hobby in Hollywood. I guess one KISS album that didn't age well overall; as far as I'm concerned.

Yep... there was so much promise and people expected it to be another great album after how good COTN & LIU were. But... Animalize was terribly weak. "Heavens On Fire" and "Thrills In The Night" were good. But the majority of the album was just weak. The Gene songs were complete filler.


Great Thread On How Great Animalize Could Have Been:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=131202

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Re: Animalize turns 35 today....

Post by Andy Capp » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:22 pm

TheSphinx wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:18 pm
jkiss wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:09 am
Time sure did. In retrospect, hard to feel good about '1984' with all that terrifying news about what was really happening to some people. And would only become even more terrifying before long. Certainly one KISS album that doesn't hold-up for me these days (save "Heaven's on Fire" - perfect); although, I thought it was 'good enough' when released. I don't care for Mark St. John's solos & the unusual/contrived faster pace of some of the songs. Plus, Gene's contributions really come-off as lackluster ...likely a result of his then new hobby in Hollywood. I guess one KISS album that didn't age well overall; as far as I'm concerned.

Yep... there was so much promise and people expected it to be another great album after how good COTN & LIU were. But... Animalize was terribly weak. "Heavens On Fire" and "Thrills In The Night" were good. But the majority of the album was just weak. The Gene songs were complete filler.


Great Thread On How Great Animalize Could Have Been:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=131202
If Animalize had featured the great Vinnie Vincent‚ it would have been just as great as Creatures/Lick it Up‚ or maybe even better.

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Post by TheSphinx » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:27 pm

KrazySwede wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:52 pm
Danger of relying on wiki too much….thx for the info.....
KISS official book Behind The Mask lists it as Sept 13th

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Post by BC Witch » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:56 pm

Back then I was in the habit of buying new KISS LPs on the day of release, excitedly putting them on the turntable expecting to love them and Animalize was the first time I thought 'hmmm, this isn't so great'. I was in denial for a bit, trying to get into songs like 'Under The Gun' and basically all of side 2 but eventually giving up. I really loved 'Heaven's On Fire' (which blew my mind as the first song I heard from the album, having been released as a single already) and liked 'Get All You Can Take' and 'Lonely Is The Hunter' (which reminded me of vintage KISS) but the rest... nah. I did dig their image on that album and the show I saw on that tour was great (though Bruce wasn't yet really into his stride as a member of the band) but for me 'Animalize' marked the beginning of the end of my love affair with KISS. I think they just stopped being unique on that album.

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Post by Hotter Than Heck » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:24 pm

I remember when this was coming out, in one of the teenybopper metal magazines Paul said "this album has more balls than the World Series"

The Detroit Tigers were on a tear that year & ended up winning the World Series. I always think of that quote from Paul when I think of the 1984 Tigers

Great album, I love it! I also love the Animalize Live Uncensored VHS - I was there!

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Post by ludzil » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:31 pm

I know it’s considered by many one of the weakest Kiss albums among the catalog but I think it’s a great album.

Underrated album.

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Post by LadySpace84 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:06 pm

Love it!

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Post by richardsimmons » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:41 pm

Not one of my absolute favorites, but It’s very good considering how haphazardly it was put together.

Favorite song: WHILE THE CITY SLEEPS !

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acevog75 wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:06 pm
I got Animalize and The Last in Line for Christmas.
COOL!

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Post by Eddie Van Hazel » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:15 am

It was cool to see the videos get play on MTV and The USA Network's "metal' shows.
I remember seeing the world premiere of "H.O.F" on MTV. I thought Gene looked much better.

Fall 1984 heavily played discs at the parties..

KISS - Animalize
RATT - Out Of The Cellar
Prince - Purple Rain
VH - 1984
DIO - Last In Line
Metallica - RTL
Dokken - Tooth And Nail
Scorps - Love At First Sting

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Post by UltraCynic » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:42 am

Dreadful album. ‘I’ve Had Enough’ uses the same riff template as ‘Exciter’, ‘Creatures Of The Night’ and ‘The Oath’, but is undoubtedly the weakest of the bunch. And the disco 16ths on the high-hats merely drive it into comedic territory.

Gene’s tunes may have been tossed off in a spare 10 minutes before he had to dash to his Winnebago, but at least they’re more honest than Paul’s radio-hit-by-numbers excursions.

The American import of this album was available for £19.99 in HMV a few days before the UK release. I studied the back and front covers for an age trying to make up my mind and eventually concluded, “Nah...” Everything about it was lacklustre. I saved a stack of mon£y but was disappointed anyway.

Thus began the downward spiral of abject mediocrity. It’s great that Paul is accepting responsibility for its offensive averageness.

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vdojaq wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:14 am
wezze wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:01 am
vdojaq wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:28 am
When I need a solid lift me up to change my mood, Burn Bitch Burn turned up to 11 is still my go to song.
Maybe you should get a new girlfriend...
C'mon, that is such a fun Gene song! All the pure schlock and innuendo in those lyrics? My wife just shakes her head and laughs when I blast that.
I enjoy BBB too. Now wezze...you shouldn’t talk with your love for “Fits like a glove”. Lol

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Post by shandi777 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:39 am

Awesome album when it comes to Paul songs. If Gene would have matched Paul's writing on the album it would have been their best release in the 80's. Sadly Gene just brought shit to the table.

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TheSphinx wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:18 pm
jkiss wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:09 am
Time sure did. In retrospect, hard to feel good about '1984' with all that terrifying news about what was really happening to some people. And would only become even more terrifying before long. Certainly one KISS album that doesn't hold-up for me these days (save "Heaven's on Fire" - perfect); although, I thought it was 'good enough' when released. I don't care for Mark St. John's solos & the unusual/contrived faster pace of some of the songs. Plus, Gene's contributions really come-off as lackluster ...likely a result of his then new hobby in Hollywood. I guess one KISS album that didn't age well overall; as far as I'm concerned.

Yep... there was so much promise and people expected it to be another great album after how good COTN & LIU were. But... Animalize was terribly weak. "Heavens On Fire" and "Thrills In The Night" were good. But the majority of the album was just weak. The Gene songs were complete filler.


Great Thread On How Great Animalize Could Have Been:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=131202
Sure, I believe the chances of the album being better had Vinnie stayed on-board were good; especially, when it came to Gene's contributions, but even overall. Anyway, neither Vinnie or Mark were going to ever be happy in KISS for very long. Just wasn't meant to be.

And to clarify what 'terrifying news' concerning '1984' was exactly from my previous posting (considering I was so vague) ...I meant the announcement of HIV/AIDS & the world as we knew it was over.

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Post by jkiss » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:58 pm

69th_B1izard wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:29 am
vdojaq wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:14 am
wezze wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:01 am
vdojaq wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:28 am
When I need a solid lift me up to change my mood, Burn Bitch Burn turned up to 11 is still my go to song.
Maybe you should get a new girlfriend...
C'mon, that is such a fun Gene song! All the pure schlock and innuendo in those lyrics? My wife just shakes her head and laughs when I blast that.
I enjoy BBB too. Now wezze...you shouldn’t talk with your love for “Fits like a glove”. Lol
That’s what might've happened if someone screwed Gene without him using a condom around then, “Oh-no! My puddy is burning!" (cue BBB chorus).

…eww-woo-woo-woo! :oops:

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