Was KISS ever invited to all-day/eve 'jam' shows post-1976?

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Was KISS ever invited to all-day/eve 'jam' shows post-1976?

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....not including that very early one from St. Louis 1974 (great job on the comp tolvis!) or their own "Destroyer" tour (which was a "Kiss tour," not a festival tour), but later in the 70s, after they became even a bigger band.

Was Kiss ever invited to, or maybe pursued a gig at, one of the day-long "festivals" or "jams" concerts that were big in the late-70s? Like some examples above, California Jam 2, the annual Texxas Jam shows, those kind of things. Maybe the Kiss stage show turned off the people putting these together? Some of these types of shows got 80-100,000 people. Another great example is the "Summerfest" show at Anaheim Stadium in 1978, the one Van Halen faked that parachute stunt (absolute genius move by them). Boston, Black Sabbath and Sammy Hagar also played that show.

Playing to 80,000 at this stage in their career I imagine was something pretty appealing if they could get the gig.

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That's a good question red. I always wondered that too.
I always wished that a pro-shot VH show would have been recorded from these concerts.

I always liked the Cal Jams. Where else could you see Black Sabbath, Deep Purple AND Earth, Wind And Fire on the same bill?
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According to this article, for Cal Jam 2 "Lenny Stogel said his group was seeking superstars Stevie Wonder, Neil Diamond, the Bee Gees, Kiss and more. None of these names materialized"

https://www.dailybulletin.com/2018/03/1 ... d-ontario/


The date of the concert was a week or so before Kiss played Budokan so perhaps that had something to do with them declining to play Cal Jam.
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Eddie Van Hazel wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:03 am That's a good question red. I always wondered that too.
I always wished that a pro-shot VH show would have been recorded from these concerts.

I always liked the Cal Jams. Where else could you see Black Sabbath, Deep Purple AND Earth, Wind And Fire on the same bill?
Freaking legendary. There must have been nothing like the good time had at one of these outdoor 70s stadium shows.
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JMac67 wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:30 am According to this article, for Cal Jam 2 "Lenny Stogel said his group was seeking superstars Stevie Wonder, Neil Diamond, the Bee Gees, Kiss and more. None of these names materialized"

https://www.dailybulletin.com/2018/03/1 ... d-ontario/


The date of the concert was a week or so before Kiss played Budokan so perhaps that had something to do with them declining to play Cal Jam.
Great info JM! It's funny how the article estimates like a third of that huge crowd were gate-crashers lol. You're probably right about Kiss but what a show that would have been.
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I remember reading that KISS were supposed to be performing at Cal Jam 2. I don't remember where I read it, either in the newspaper or in magazine article. I remember looking forward to it, and being disappointed when I heard that they were not going to be there, but I don't remember ever hearing why they were not included. It sure would have been awesome to have seen KISS in my own backyard.

Here is an article in our local newspaper (February 1978) about a young fan's vain attempt to get them added to the event...
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MrPaulStanley wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:47 pm I remember reading that KISS were supposed to be performing at Cal Jam 2. I don't remember where I read it, either in the newspaper or in magazine article. I remember looking forward to it, and being disappointed when I heard that they were not going to be there, but I don't remember ever hearing why they were not included. It sure would have been awesome to have seen KISS in my own backyard.

Here is an article in our local newspaper (February 1978) about a young fan's vain attempt to get them added to the event...
Great article thanks! Very interesting stuff, I wonder what really went down. One funny thing is that the article has Paul as a "former sixth grade teacher" lol. I wonder if that girl is still a fan.
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I’d be inclined to believe that the band; mostly Bill - would have said that it was not worth the reward. Meaning, they couldn’t agree on pay. Why should KISS share the revenue with other bands and have to fight for stage room and the hassle of putting up the production in a setting like that……. I could totally see them thinking they’re “above” that scene back then.
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redinthesky wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:01 pm
MrPaulStanley wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:47 pm I remember reading that KISS were supposed to be performing at Cal Jam 2. I don't remember where I read it, either in the newspaper or in magazine article. I remember looking forward to it, and being disappointed when I heard that they were not going to be there, but I don't remember ever hearing why they were not included. It sure would have been awesome to have seen KISS in my own backyard.

Here is an article in our local newspaper (February 1978) about a young fan's vain attempt to get them added to the event...
Great article thanks! Very interesting stuff, I wonder what really went down. One funny thing is that the article has Paul as a "former sixth grade teacher" lol. I wonder if that girl is still a fan.
You're welcome. Yeah, my cousin and I were cracking up about some of those errors when this article came out, especially the comment about Alice Cooper. We didn't know this girl, she lived on the other side of town and was about 2 years younger than I was. It would be interesting to know if she's still marching in The Army or not.
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JohnBergless wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:11 pm I’d be inclined to believe that the band; mostly Bill - would have said that it was not worth the reward. Meaning, they couldn’t agree on pay. Why should KISS share the revenue with other bands and have to fight for stage room and the hassle of putting up the production in a setting like that……. I could totally see them thinking they’re “above” that scene back then.
Stage restrictions may have had something to do with it, but I think the Japan tour being 10 days out is the most likely explanation.
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Bill didn't like stadium or even simply outdoor shows. Too much for him to worry over about.

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I think they were going to play Mardi Gras around 1979 or 1980. If that is true, I do not know what happened to the plans.
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southernkiss wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:25 pm I think they were going to play Mardi Gras around 1979 or 1980. If that is true, I do not know what happened to the plans.
They were simply invited to be something like the 'Grand Marshalls' of the MG parade (circa 1979). There also a number of serious anonymous threats made towards them. They became overly concerned about the event's overall security measures, etc. & decided against doing so (or plain-out canceled).

Anyway, those (unused) commentative coins would've been tossed from parade floats. And just as they were for the adjoining COTN concert @ the Superdome (in NBA/basketball seating configuration); in playing a part kickstarting "Mardi Gras '83".

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jkiss wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:41 pm
southernkiss wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:25 pm I think they were going to play Mardi Gras around 1979 or 1980. If that is true, I do not know what happened to the plans.
They were simply invited to be something like the 'Grand Marshalls' of the MG parade (circa 1979). There also a number of serious anonymous threats made towards them. They became overly concerned about the event's overall security measures, etc. & decided against doing so (or plain-out canceled).

Anyway, those (unused) commentative coins would've been tossed from parade floats. And just as they were for the adjoining COTN concert @ the Superdome (in NBA/basketball seating configuration); in playing a part kickstarting "Mardi Gras '83".

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I'll also add, after the North American "Destroyer" Tour (or "Spirit of '76"), Bill wasn't at all interested in either outdoor or outdoor stadium concerts. He found it usually to be too much of an overly haphazardous experience. And whenever they had previously done so.

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redinthesky wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:08 pm ....not including that very early one from St. Louis 1974 (great job on the comp tolvis!) or their own "Destroyer" tour (which was a "Kiss tour," not a festival tour), but later in the 70s, after they became even a bigger band.

Was Kiss ever invited to, or maybe pursued a gig at, one of the day-long "festivals" or "jams" concerts that were big in the late-70s? Like some examples above, California Jam 2, the annual Texxas Jam shows, those kind of things. Maybe the Kiss stage show turned off the people putting these together? Some of these types of shows got 80-100,000 people. Another great example is the "Summerfest" show at Anaheim Stadium in 1978, the one Van Halen faked that parachute stunt (absolute genius move by them). Boston, Black Sabbath and Sammy Hagar also played that show.

Playing to 80,000 at this stage in their career I imagine was something pretty appealing if they could get the gig.

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Or Day on the Green.