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Vinnie Vincent vs Eddie Van Halen

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Vinnie Vincent vs Eddie Van Halen
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Cmon man.
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Like King Kong vs an ant
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Vintards. :lol:
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Anybody that chooses VV should be required to explain their rationale.
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Covid has really messed people up.
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Eddie was an innovator, great songwriter, wrote some great and iconic hits, was a groundbreaking guitarist, prolific artist and was wildly productive over five decades.

Vinnie is an irrelevant footnote only to KISS fans. He hasn’t written a song in over 30 years, never wrote a single hit song, is unreliable, diabolical, apparently can’t really play anymore, and is a joke.
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One’s a legend, innovator and all around cool motherf&$ker and the other was ‘the new guy’ for about 14 months.
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My guess is the OP is messing with us...
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Piss off... Not even a pimple on the ass on EVH
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I'm not asking about their legacies.
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This is clearly a joke thread
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Lofton23rdSt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:50 am I'm not asking about their legacies.
So what is this about, arm wrestling?
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Tito wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:00 am
Lofton23rdSt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:50 am I'm not asking about their legacies.
So what is this about, arm wrestling?
Guitar playing or song writing
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Fair enough, you could compare VV and EvH.
Personally, I'm a bit tired of the measuring of musicians against one another. What's the point? I have at least 30 artists/bands I follow on a regular basis. Probably more, it's just a ballpark figure. I like them all. I don't find it necessary to rank them against each other all the time.
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Lofton23rdSt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:01 am
Tito wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:00 am
Lofton23rdSt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:50 am I'm not asking about their legacies.
So what is this about, arm wrestling?
Guitar playing or song writing
Vinnie was (is? - I genuinely don't know what the score is these days) a very good guitar player and songwriter, but when his race is run will never be spoken of as one of the top-division guitar elite. For me all too often he didn't play sympathetically within a song and descended into a chromatic look-what-I-can-do blur of notes. The only time I saw him live his solo feature basically was him on his knees for five minutes producing pick noise. Throw in the facts that he's to all intents and purposes been inactive for 30 years+ and rightly or wrongly has acquired a terrible reputation and he's really no more than a semi-irrelevant footnote.

In contrast, EVH was EVH - there's really no valid comparison to be made between the two.
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There would be no Vinnie without Eddie.
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! "versus"????

I needed that laugh.
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Really?
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Is this a joke? Outside Kiss fans nobody knows who Vinnie is...he's not fit to wipe the sweat off Eddies guitar.
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Hmmm; let’s see here. A Paper Airplane vs. an F/A-18 Super Hornet.

This poll is an insult to Van Halen.
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Lofton23rdSt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:01 am
Tito wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:00 am
Lofton23rdSt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:50 am I'm not asking about their legacies.
So what is this about, arm wrestling?
Guitar playing or song writing
To think that Vinnie can compete in either arena with EVH is laughable.

This poll is the equivalent of Metallica vs Trixter.
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Can some of the people choosing VV please explain why?... I really could do with a laugh.
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Are you talking about who would have been better in KISS or what?


As Sammy points out... Eddie can't write songs on his own.
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/sammy-h ... ite-songs/


If Vinnie and Eddie were both relative unknowns at the time of Creatures.... Vinnie easily be the better choice to join the band.

Plus, I don't think Eddie was a good person. How they stabbed Michael Anthony in the back like that. He was always crying and whining to his manager.

Eddie was an alcoholic and KISS certainly didn't need that.

The stuff that KISS could have done if Gene and Paul had put their egos aside.....KISS 2.0 could have really made their mark.


And when one really thinks about how great CREATURES could have been if they had used at least 6 of the songs Vinnie had written for it.

Imagine if BACK ON THE STREETS (with Vinnie on lead) had been used

Vinni'e Betrayed

And the demo version of NOT FOR THE INNOCENT with Gene and Paul trading vocals.


I'd call the ALBUM NOT FOR THE INNOCENT

Song On It

Not For The Innocent
Killer
I Love It Loud
Back on The Streets
I Still Love You
Betrayed
Creatures Of The NIght
War Machine
Saint and SInner
Rock And Roll Hell


And of course Gene and Paul tried to downplay Vinnie being a "guitar god". Who knows how big of a campaign GROVER JACKSON would have had if G/P let Vinnie have the VV model guitar for him etc. Once again... thanks to Pauls ego....


Eddie Van Halen never would have worked in KISS. Vinnie was the perfect fit.....but Paul's ego ruined it.
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Frehley's Vomit wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:26 am
Lofton23rdSt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:01 am
Tito wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:00 am
Lofton23rdSt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:50 am I'm not asking about their legacies.
So what is this about, arm wrestling?
Guitar playing or song writing
To think that Vinnie can compete in either arena with EVH is laughable.

This poll is the equivalent of Metallica vs Trixter.
You have a photo of a woman in a thong as an avatar on a Kiss message board.
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You’re fucking ridiculous comparing the two

Eddie impacted music forever, he changed the way guitar was played forever, and he inspired millions upon millions of kids to play the guitar.

Vinnie? He didn’t impact music or guitar playing at all. That’s not to say the guy isn’t talented. He’s a very good songwriter and guitarist, but comparing someone who was (and still is) a public icon, to someone who was hired in KISS and was a direct Randy Rhoads copycat (a shitty one ) is ludicrous. Not to mention, most of Vinnie’s solos are just a sloppy mess and lacks any melody
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This is funny.
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TheSphinx wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:39 am
Plus, I don't think Eddie was a good person. How they stabbed Michael Anthony in the back like that. He was always crying and whining to his manager.
You're the expert here Sphinx, but I seem to have read interviews in the past that suggested VV wasn't well regarded among some of his bandmates since KISS. In fact I don't recall ever hearing that he was a joy to work with from anyone.

To the question about being better for KISS, that's impossible to say, as we don't know what kind of creative energy would have been sparked between GaP and EVH. Who knows what Eddie would have done with their ideas and how awesome those songs could have been?

Judging on technique and style, if I could magically absorb all of the talent of either player I'd pick EVH without a split-second of hesitation. This is subjective of course but I believe it will be a long time before the world forgets the name of Edward Van Halen. Sadly, VV is already pretty obscure outside KISS circles.

What would be interesting is to do the Pepsi challenge on some teenagers and pit EVH vs VV solos side by side for them to judge. That would take the bias out of the equation.

What we do know is that VV was great for KISS when he had his moment. He co-wrote some great songs with them, but I don't think history will ever see him on the same level as EVH by any measure you'd choose.
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Creatures & Lick It Up are incredible LPs.

But the answer is Eddie Van Halen (RIP).
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Bwhahahaha. Love Vinnie's chops, but c'mon.
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So Cruel wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:59 pm Like King Kong vs an ant
lol
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These "Who's / What's better?" threads are ridiculous.

By any objective criteria EVH 'wins'.
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VV fan right here, and I'd have to pick EVH.
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doombies wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:54 am You’re fucking ridiculous comparing the two

Eddie impacted music forever, he changed the way guitar was played forever, and he inspired millions upon millions of kids to play the guitar.

Vinnie? He didn’t impact music or guitar playing at all. That’s not to say the guy isn’t talented. He’s a very good songwriter and guitarist, but comparing someone who was (and still is) a public icon, to someone who was hired in KISS and was a direct Randy Rhoads copycat (a shitty one ) is ludicrous. Not to mention, most of Vinnie’s solos are just a sloppy mess and lacks any melody
He did more than Mark St. John.
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Lofton23rdSt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:48 am
doombies wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:54 am You’re fucking ridiculous comparing the two

Eddie impacted music forever, he changed the way guitar was played forever, and he inspired millions upon millions of kids to play the guitar.

Vinnie? He didn’t impact music or guitar playing at all. That’s not to say the guy isn’t talented. He’s a very good songwriter and guitarist, but comparing someone who was (and still is) a public icon, to someone who was hired in KISS and was a direct Randy Rhoads copycat (a shitty one ) is ludicrous. Not to mention, most of Vinnie’s solos are just a sloppy mess and lacks any melody
He did more than Mark St. John.
Obviously. And what’s your point?
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doombies wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:49 am
Obviously. And what’s your point?
You come on here talk about him everyday. He was on one album. You think you're going to find a video of him playing with Kiss lol.
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Lofton23rdSt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:52 am
doombies wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:49 am
Obviously. And what’s your point?
You come on here talk about him everyday. He was on one album. You think you're going to find a video of him playing with Kiss lol.
Bullshit. I don’t talk about him everyday on here. And video of him? Who knows?
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doombies wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:56 am
Lofton23rdSt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:52 am
doombies wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:49 am
Obviously. And what’s your point?
You come on here talk about him everyday. He was on one album. You think you're going to find a video of him playing with Kiss lol.
Bullshit. I don’t talk about him everyday on here. And video of him? Who knows?
Mark's solos were a sloppy mess.
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I prefer VV. I can't get into Van Halen.
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Lofton23rdSt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:58 am
doombies wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:56 am
Lofton23rdSt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:52 am
doombies wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:49 am
Obviously. And what’s your point?
You come on here talk about him everyday. He was on one album. You think you're going to find a video of him playing with Kiss lol.
Bullshit. I don’t talk about him everyday on here. And video of him? Who knows?
Mark's solos were a sloppy mess.
You’re entitled to your own opinion . But still, I’m not the one who brought Mark up. Anyways, let’s get back on topic...
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doombies wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:03 am

You’re entitled to your own opinion . But still, I’m not the one who brought Mark up. Anyways, let’s get back on topic...
You bashed Vinnie. You're a MSJ fan.
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Lofton23rdSt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:10 am
doombies wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:03 am

You’re entitled to your own opinion . But still, I’m not the one who brought Mark up. Anyways, let’s get back on topic...
You bashed Vinnie. You're a MSJ fan.
and do you have a problem with that?
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Unfortunately the only way to compare them that would be close is a match up of shady things they have done.
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Eddie....not even close.
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Anyone that chose Vinnie... You need to take a hard look at yourself 😀
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