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What if ...the current lineup decides to re-record full albums?

Post by C » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:13 am

They want their rights back so ........they go into the studio in a crazy move, same as Gene stretching the notes on the other thread.
So they decide to record :

1 - Lick it up : I think Gene would be pretty decent in the studio! Paul not so much but he would alter some of the melodies to suit and Tommy would be adding some classic leads to the mix.
2 - Asylum : I think they could pull this off !
3 - Crazy nights: Would be pretty cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: What if ...the current lineup decides to re-record full albums?

Post by TheSpoiler » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:16 am

Hotter Than Hell

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Post by StarChildBlade » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:18 am

No. Just, no.

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Post by shandi777 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:29 am

It would be a joke just time the last time they rerecorded classic songs.

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Post by Chaim Wigz » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:31 am

C wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:13 am
They want their rights back so ........they go into the studio in a crazy move, same as Gene stretching the notes on the other thread.
So they decide to record :

1 - Lick it up : I think Gene would be pretty decent in the studio! Paul not so much but he would alter some of the melodies to suit and Tommy would be adding some classic leads to the mix.
2 - Asylum : I think they could pull this off !
3 - Crazy nights: Would be pretty cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!
What?! Lick it Up, production wise is perfect. Vocals wise, Gene and Paul were at their absolute peak. Ditto Asylum. Tommy Thayer improving on Vinnie and Bruce’s solos?! Get outta town!!! And of course PAUL CANNOT SING ANYMORE. You have to be trolling. If not, you should be embarrassed for posting such nonsense.

If it is possible, Crazy Nights would benefit from a remix, but it is now literally IMPOSSIBLE For Paul Stanley to sing ANY of those songs, even an octave lower.

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Re: What if ...the current lineup decides to re-record full albums?

Post by Much Too Soon » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:32 am

For the love of all that is Holy....🤦‍♂️... I pray this virus goes away soon so idled minds can get off of here and back to living.
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Post by Velvis » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:02 pm

C wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:13 am
They want their rights back so ........they go into the studio in a crazy move, same as Gene stretching the notes on the other thread.
So they decide to record :

1 - Lick it up : I think Gene would be pretty decent in the studio! Paul not so much but he would alter some of the melodies to suit and Tommy would be adding some classic leads to the mix.
2 - Asylum : I think they could pull this off !
3 - Crazy nights: Would be pretty cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!
It would probably be cheaper to negotiate a deal to buy their rights back (ala Motley Crue)

KISS isn't selling records now, 10 years from now? even less.

I think they would sell better remixed (Asylum, CN, & HITS) than re-recorded. No one wants that, especially after 40 years of hearing songs played slightly differently.

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Post by Den Dennis » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:08 pm

Who's gonna sing Paul's songs?

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Post by Tallbear13 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:11 pm

Better chance of getting the rights back cheap than hearing paul redo his vocals

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Post by Pete2174 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:17 pm

Den Dennis wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:08 pm
Who's gonna sing Paul's songs?
It’s ok. They’re all on tape.

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Post by Hotter Than Heck » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:20 pm

I wouldn't like the idea if Paul's voice was still halfway decent but with his voice as is it feels like an even worse idea

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Post by Red_Walrus » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:36 pm

No Pauls voice is the stumbling block.

But ....It may be too late now.....Ace and Peter could have re-recorded all the songs they did with Kiss with Ace now taking the vocals from Gene for some of his classic songs. Call the album Two Sides of the Coin with Ace's solo art embossed into a coin for the front cover and Peters for the back. It would have been pretty cool if it came out before the reunion.

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Getaway
Beth
Dark Light
Talk To Me
Two Sides of the Coin
Torpedo Girl
Hard times
Dirty Livin
Hooligan
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Re: What if ...the current lineup decides to re-record full albums?

Post by Coventry1973 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:42 pm

Don't want to hear current line up do classic songs--- NO :evil:

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Post by Thunderous_Lay » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:45 pm

... the ensuing meltdown from the usual suspects would be hilarious.

Uncles Bert and Chaim, you have my blessing.

Please, go for it. I beseech you.

Start with the debut, then HtH, then DtK and so forth...

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Post by YesterdaysLegend » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:47 pm

No, No, No

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Post by Mr Slow » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:13 pm

If they’re going into the studio during this downtime (which is doubtful) I’d rather they record new songs. Surely they’d have 3-4 songs together to do an EP. Surely! :?

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Post by Forty Deuce » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:17 pm

They should be told to get the fuck out of here in response.

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Post by 69th_B1izard » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:25 pm

No thank you!
If anything and if the tapes exist:
Re-Mix - Hotter Than Hell / Crazy Nights / Monster

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Post by KingOfHearts89 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:25 pm

Why not just a bunch of Covers? Call the album 'Behind the Makeup' and have each member pick 3 songs that mean a lot to them and just do it. Put 10% of the proceeds to work into finding a cure for this virus.

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Post by metaldad » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:26 pm

shandi777 wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:29 am
It would be a joke just time the last time they rerecorded classic songs.
Nothing but this

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Post by dvader » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:28 pm

C wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:13 am
They want their rights back so ........they go into the studio in a crazy move, same as Gene stretching the notes on the other thread.
So they decide to record :

1 - Lick it up : I think Gene would be pretty decent in the studio! Paul not so much but he would alter some of the melodies to suit and Tommy would be adding some classic leads to the mix.
2 - Asylum : I think they could pull this off !
3 - Crazy nights: Would be pretty cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!

That Jigoku retsunden sounded weird and in a way unnatural, I would definitely prefer to hear some remixed/remastered editions, mainly Hotter than hell and Unmasked, both could benefit from a crispier sound
I would add also Creatures of the night, I know that it might sound as blasphemy but I really think that the thunderous drum sound kinda ‘strangle’ the songs subtracting the guitars and bass dynamics while I would definitely love to hear a more balanced mix

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Post by richardsimmons » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:33 pm

No thanks.
Chaim Wigz wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:31 am
What?! Lick it Up, production wise is perfect. Vocals wise, Gene and Paul were at their absolute peak. Ditto Asylum. Tommy Thayer improving on Vinnie and Bruce’s solos?! Get outta town!!! And of course PAUL CANNOT SING ANYMORE. You have to be trolling. If not, you should be embarrassed for posting such nonsense.

it is now literally IMPOSSIBLE For Paul Stanley to sing
Edited ⬆️ To how I feel.

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Post by jannep17 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:50 pm

TheSpoiler wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:16 am
Hotter Than Hell
If they do that I will throw a major hissy fit.

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Post by Mr Slow » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:07 pm

Maybe they could do some KISS covers. What I mean by that is pick a dozen tracks from the catalog and record them with the current band. The problem with the Jigsaw Reduction album was they they tried to recreate the songs pretty much note for note. But if they went in and recorded the songs with the same approach as they had with the last two studio albums then it will sound more alive and energetic.

Imagine songs from UNMASKED, CRAZY NIGHTS or any of the other oddly produced records being re-done in a more no frills hard rock fashion.

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Post by C » Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:22 pm

Guys it's all in good fun! Virus threads :)

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Post by aceeg » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:30 pm

Stupid re records are if they go in to studio record new music

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Post by Soylent Gene » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:58 pm

Too late. Who’s going to sing?

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Post by Mr Slow » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:20 pm

Actually, what this forced lay off will probably do is speed up the process for the documentary and biopic they were talking about a few months back.

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Post by KISSFACE » Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:40 pm

Mr Slow wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:20 pm
Actually, what this forced lay off will probably do is speed up the process for the documentary and biopic they were talking about a few months back.
Maybe in remote talks about it, or in writing for it, but production-wise, I imagine Covid-19 will be causing delays across the board. I wonder how well KISS would work as a band without being in the same room if they turn to making new music to fill the void.
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Too late. Who’s going to sing?
Gene, Eric, Tommy. Paul managed to be surprisingly good for some of the tracks they're using in concert, maybe he can still pull a new song delivery together. But it must be so frustrating on new material to not be able to make your voice do anything like what you can imagine doing for a song.

But even an EP or a single from KISS would be exciting in these times, so if that was the goal, it can easily be Gene carrying the vocal load. Use the strengths you've got. Paul can still write and play and be heard from vocally but he doesn't have to be the lead guy for this.

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Post by VanRockCity » Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:23 am

C wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:13 am
They want their rights back so ........they go into the studio in a crazy move, same as Gene stretching the notes on the other thread.
So they decide to record :

1 - Lick it up : I think Gene would be pretty decent in the studio! Paul not so much but he would alter some of the melodies to suit and Tommy would be adding some classic leads to the mix.
2 - Asylum : I think they could pull this off !
3 - Crazy nights: Would be pretty cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dozens of posters here would buy it no doubt. They'd make hundreds of dollars!

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Post by d4nugster » Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:29 am

they couldn't haul their asses to the studio to make new music, now they're gonna re record the classics? for what?

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Post by Jamcarl321 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:41 am

YesterdaysLegend wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:47 pm
No, No, No
Eric Singer could definitely sing that!

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Post by gene therapist » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:46 am

Hotter Than Hell would be interesting. Listenable sound and tempos, please!

Then again, the last time I heard Paul SING was over 10 yrs ago, so of course it wouldn't work.

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Post by Going Blind » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:55 am

Gene knows better than to re-record the entire Kiss catalog. Each album would get downloaded 10 million times by freckle face kids and you know that damn Napster.

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Post by Man of a Thousand Aces » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:29 am

I don't understand these constant "what if" scenarios regarding recording more albums. Have you not heard Paul's voice in the last 10 years?

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Post by stutterer » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:07 am

Mumble rap versions would fly.

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Post by YesterdaysLegend » Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:47 am

Jamcarl321 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:41 am
YesterdaysLegend wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:47 pm
No, No, No
Eric Singer could definitely sing that!
This. And Boomerang

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Post by metaldad » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:00 am

Man of a Thousand Aces wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:29 am
I don't understand these constant "what if" scenarios regarding recording more albums. Have you not heard Paul's voice in the last 10 years?
Exactly
Let’s try this
Let’s get Zep to re record Physical Graffiti with Plant who can’t sing like he used to and Jason Bonham
I’m sure it will sound just as good as the original

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Man of a Thousand Aces wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:29 am
I don't understand these constant "what if" scenarios regarding recording more albums. Have you not heard Paul's voice in the last 10 years?
Exactly.

Even if his voice was ok I still don't get the reason to re-record old songs.

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Post by Animalized84 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:05 am

I'd rather KISS do something with the original 1981 "hard rock" album that was shelved in favor of the Elder. Remaster the original demos like Deadly Weapons and some others. Keep Ace and Carr's original performances.

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Post by C » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:04 pm

Animalized84 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:05 am
I'd rather KISS do something with the original 1981 "hard rock" album that was shelved in favor of the Elder. Remaster the original demos like Deadly Weapons and some others. Keep Ace and Carr's original performances.
Now would be a great time to do something like that!

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Post by Nellcote71 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:09 pm

No offense - but I sure as hell don’t want thayer (or anyone) touching classic kiss, enoughs enough already

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Post by lord71 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:05 pm

NO.

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Post by Wichita77 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:19 pm

I wouldn't be up for this at all. It's not like they'd have anything to add to them to make them better.

Now, what I would like is if they took the top 10 songs from the Vault, as voted on my Vault owners, and do a fully produced KISS album of those songs. I've heard that some of these are really amazing songs.

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