KISS 2.0 - Who's ready / who will never be ready

HOFCity · Post by **HOFCity** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:54 pm

I'm at least interested.

will it ever happen ? Only time will tell

Velvis · Post by **Velvis** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:02 pm

Zero interest. I would rather see a normal tribute band at a reasonable cost, than an official one for $100+. In either case it will be a notch down from the real deal, why pay a premium for that.

and despite Paul saying to the contrary, a musical band who writes, creates. and performs music is not the same as a football team.

In addition, I would like new music, not new guys playing old songs.

PsychoElder · Post by **PsychoElder** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:09 pm

I hope it never happens. Say no to KISS 2.0!

Post by **LUDIVINE** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:14 pm

No, i will never be ready. When they retire it's the end for me. No interest in Kiss 2.0 I will have good memories.

Yiggity · Post by **Yiggity** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:35 pm

I'm not interested but at some point, officially licensed tribute bands may be a thing. Eventually, all the Rolling Stones members will be dead [insert "clever" Keith Richards will outlive cockroaches remark here if you must] for instance and there will still be a demand for them. Put some money behind it, maybe a relative to one of the members and it might work. Rock concerts are changing anyway. They're much more family entertainment now and we have no idea how they will evolve. We also have holograms touring with at least some success?
In 50 years, maybe there will be official tributes for everyone since they'll all/most be dead. Why not a Beatles, a Motley Crue, a Zeppelin show to always go see that the owners of those bands/estates can oversee? It all seems very plausible but not in the forseeable future.

Velvis · Post by **Velvis** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:41 pm

I think the difference is Kiss' music isnt in high regard with the general public. They would have to give the "KISS Live Experience" (bombs, pyro, etc.) to get people interested. Problem is it would cost to much to do that to make it profitable.

A band like The Beatles could easily have official tributes, maybe Zep as well. I dont see Crue being profitable, not enough interest.

I feel alot of times "diehards" have an attachment to the people in the band as well as the music.

LadySpace84 · Post by **LadySpace84** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:50 pm

LUDIVINE wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:14 pm No, i will never be ready. When they retire it's the end for me. No interest in Kiss 2.0 I will have good memories.

What you said!

Wiped Out 78 · Post by **Wiped Out 78** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:03 pm

Bands end. It happens.

The Beatles have been done for 50 years, and my fandom remains unchanged.

Doose · Post by **Doose** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:16 pm

I picture it being a Broadway-type show playing small theaters (1000-2500 seats) in multiple cities with different casts in each city. They'll have a great stage show, do the blood, do the fire breathing, have Paul's raps down, do the smoking guitar, do Beth, etc. Just like the Beatles have their tribute bands, but KISS' will be formalized productions controlled by KISS.

Starbandit74 · Post by **Starbandit74** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:19 pm

Not interested.

I already feel a little embarrassed to attend KISS tribute bands.

KISS has always been Paul and Gene to me. Probably because they were the front men, even with the originals, and obviously during the 80’s.

I like them and their voices and their stage presence.

When they leave, it’s over for me.

Den Dennis · Post by **Den Dennis** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:21 pm

Never.

Yiggity · Post by **Yiggity** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:43 pm

Doose wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:16 pm I picture it being a Broadway-type show playing small theaters (1000-2500 seats) in multiple cities with different casts in each city. They'll have a great stage show, do the blood, do the fire breathing, have Paul's raps down, do the smoking guitar, do Beth, etc. Just like the Beatles have their tribute bands, but KISS' will be formalized productions controlled by KISS.

Makes sense. As long as that could be profitable.

Doose · Post by **Doose** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:59 pm

Yiggity wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:43 pm
Doose wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:16 pm I picture it being a Broadway-type show playing small theaters (1000-2500 seats) in multiple cities with different casts in each city. They'll have a great stage show, do the blood, do the fire breathing, have Paul's raps down, do the smoking guitar, do Beth, etc. Just like the Beatles have their tribute bands, but KISS' will be formalized productions controlled by KISS.
Makes sense. As long as that could be profitable.

Like the Beatles tribute bands, they could recreate different make-up eras of KISS - the 70s, the early 80s (with Eric and Vinnie), and then the Reunion era - so it really makes it a different experience.

pepperkitty · Post by **pepperkitty** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:01 pm

Nope.

HOFCity · Post by **HOFCity** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:07 pm

I'm going to miss that anticipation and then first listen to new KISS music the most.

To be honest when I was convinced KISS wasn't going to record anymore that was ' the end ' for me not seeing them on the EOTR Tour - that was just me celebrating my final time enjoying a KISS concert but KISS wasn't about a concert to me.

It was and still is the music.

It hit me that most don't have this same passion when I attended my last KISS show.

People were watching the ' show ' while I was getting into the music ( feeling the music ).

Stan Stanley · Post by **Stan Stanley** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:09 pm

For a long time, I thought that they would turn KISS into a business that operates like this: Officially Licensed KISS 2.0 Bands all over the world with Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer overseeing quality control, branding and the overall experience. Now I think that they will be in charge of Hologram KISS 2.0 - this will allow them to create a unique experience like Doose says - different eras etc. This Hologram KISS 2.0 would then tour and tour until it has worn out it's welcome at which point they will retire it for about a decade or so and then bring it back out.

Black Ace · Post by **Black Ace** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:24 pm

Only if it’s KISS the Musical.

The show must be the story of KISS, featuring the hits and choreographed dancing.

There has to be an interlude where Ace gives Peter a BJ.

Four-Who-Are-One · Post by **Four-Who-Are-One** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:29 am

Please vote here.

Oh, and I'd like to see them live on as comic and cartoon characters. Still waiting for that spinoff series from Scooby-Doo! and KISS.

B5Erik · Post by **B5Erik** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:40 am

I'd rather it didn't happen, but IF the 2.0 band is truly great, then I could support them.

If they're merely decent and nothing special? Then they're nothing more than another tribute band.

The chances of this thing working (if they even attempt it) are pretty slim, but not impossible. Just unlikely.

kiss-1976 · Post by **kiss-1976** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:15 am

Wiped Out 78 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:03 pm Bands end. It happens.

The Beatles have been done for 50 years, and my fandom remains unchanged.

This

stutterer · Post by **stutterer** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:39 am

They could assemble a mishmash tribute band from other tribute bands and plug them everywhere, maybe write new songs for them or at least put their names on Kiss 2.0 songs credits. They won't be spending too much time on them that's for sure.

brettjarrad · Post by **brettjarrad** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:43 am

Kiss is 1 Paul 2 gene so sorry no

Kloetenburger · Post by **Kloetenburger** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:19 am

When it is over it is over. Who do they think they are? They are not really important or a band that changed the world. There's not that much demand for the real band (or what's left of it) who TF needs the 2.0 version? It's a ridiculous and delusional idea. Megalomania galore.

Kloetenburger · Post by **Kloetenburger** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:23 am

Black Ace wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:24 pm Only if it’s KISS the Musical.

The show must be the story of KISS, featuring the hits and choreographed dancing.

There has to be an interlude where Ace gives Peter a BJ.

Then all of a sudden the real Paul Stanley appears out of nowhere, dressed in a shiney golden skirt and a shimmery golden sports bra singing "there's a child in a sundress looking at a rainy sky..."

Hi I'm Witz · Post by **Hi I'm Witz** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:43 am

Doose wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:16 pm I picture it being a Broadway-type show playing small theaters (1000-2500 seats) in multiple cities with different casts in each city. They'll have a great stage show, do the blood, do the fire breathing, have Paul's raps down, do the smoking guitar, do Beth, etc. Just like the Beatles have their tribute bands, but KISS' will be formalized productions controlled by KISS.

God no. I couldnt take someone else continuing to yell out "peeeeeepole!! How we doin' so fah!!" or "we are just....getting....stahhhhhhhted!"

Now am I ready for it? No. And I will never support such an idea. I would probably watch some YouTube clips out of shear morbid curiosity but that's about it.

Hi I'm Witz · Post by **Hi I'm Witz** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:54 am

I think we can all agree on one thing. No matter who they get to play "The Starchild," hes' going to suck. Paul's voice is shot and God knows he annoys the fuck out of me sometimes on and off the stage, but the reality is he's the most important member of this band and the most indispensable. I have seen countless KISS tribute bands over the years and absolutely none of them have a front man that even comes close to being as good as Paul. By comparison, I've seen quite a few "Genes" that have ranged from excellent (Spiro) to really good. Peter would be fairly easy to replicate. Ace would probably be the 2nd toughest to replace but not impossible. However Paul's voice is truly one of a kind. I've never heard anyone else that sounds like him. Add to that, finding someone who looks and acts right in the makeup and you're practically searching for a unicorn.

Pete2174 · Post by **Pete2174** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:55 am

Unless they return to the UK after July of this year I’m out. 25 shows across the USA and Europe is fine for me. I have the records, the memories and the friends. Love the band dearly. The soundtrack to my life since I was a teenager.

Black Ace · Post by **Black Ace** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:57 am

Kloetenburger wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:23 am
Black Ace wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:24 pm Only if it’s KISS the Musical.

The show must be the story of KISS, featuring the hits and choreographed dancing.

There has to be an interlude where Ace gives Peter a BJ.
Then all of a sudden the real Paul Stanley appears out of nowhere, dressed in a shiney golden skirt and a shimmery golden sports bra singing "there's a child in a sundress looking at a rainy sky..."

Almost perfect

but you forgot the shimmery gold fanny pack.

Frehley's Vomit · Post by **Frehley's Vomit** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:07 am

B5Erik wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:40 amIf they're merely decent and nothing special? Then they're nothing more than another tribute band.

They will be four people who are not Kiss presenting Kiss' show and music, so they will be a tribute band whether they are decent or not.

Post by **Ack Attack** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:52 am

I know of one gentleman who is ready.....

Jkissfreak · Post by **Jkissfreak** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:57 am

I don't really think that the slice of the pie would be big enough for the four new guys, if four great guys could be found. And to think mulitple versions for different markets is just silly. We already have KISS 2.0 now it has existed since 1980 with a brief hiatus from 1996 thru the first farewell tour.

star_paul12 · Post by **star_paul12** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:42 am

I have no interest. I just find the whole concepts of tribute bands to be terribly cheesy. That’s just me. I’ve been to a couple of different shows of them (a zep one and a Fleetwood one) and the entire time I was there I just kept thinking “this is so sad—for everyone” lol.

Vandelay Industries · Post by **Vandelay Industries** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:53 am

Kiss 2.0 will be a joke. Whoever is in the band wouldn't last long, because if they were actually any good, they'd be grossly underpaid.

Then again, they could just hire four stiffs for peanuts and recreate the EOTR era of Kiss..

Kloetenburger · Post by **Kloetenburger** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:55 am

Kiss tribute bands are notorious to be extra shitty. They are the worst. There is always something wrong. Always. Bad, wigs, cheap costumes, a short and stocky Paul, a giant Peter, an obese Ace, and of course nobody can sing like Paul could when he was still able to sing. Kiss tribute bands are embarrassing. All of them.

Post by **aceshigh** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:06 am

Kloetenburger wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:55 am Kiss tribute bands are notorious to be extra shitty. They are the worst. There is always something wrong. Always. Bad, wigs, cheap costumes, a short and stocky Paul, a giant Peter, an obese Ace, and of course nobody can sing like Paul could when he was still able to sing. Kiss tribute bands are embarrassing. All of them.

Especially the official one that is on the road now. All icing no more cake.

metaldad · Post by **metaldad** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:38 am

For no more than $10 at a Ribfest

Eddie Van Hazel · Post by **Eddie Van Hazel** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:55 am

One of the cool things about KISS in the 70's was the mystique.
No one knew what they looked like. That was some of the fun.

With today's social media, there would be no mystery at all.

Not interested. When Gene and Paul say "see ya", I'm done too.

bassmansteiny · Post by **bassmansteiny** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:21 pm

While I won't say I will never be ready, I seriously doubt I would have anything to do with a version of KISS without Gene or Paul. To me, they were there from the beginning and every version of the band since. I just don't see myself attending a concert from KISS that doesn't have Gene or Paul in it.

Soylent Gene · Post by **Soylent Gene** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:26 pm

Hi I'm Witz wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:54 am I think we can all agree on one thing. No matter who they get to play "The Starchild," hes' going to suck. Paul's voice is shot and God knows he annoys the fuck out of me sometimes on and off the stage, but the reality is he's the most important member of this band and the most indispensable. I have seen countless KISS tribute bands over the years and absolutely none of them have a front man that even comes close to being as good as Paul. By comparison, I've seen quite a few "Genes" that have ranged from excellent (Spiro) to really good. Peter would be fairly easy to replicate. Ace would probably be the 2nd toughest to replace but not impossible. However Paul's voice is truly one of a kind. I've never heard anyone else that sounds like him. Add to that, finding someone who looks and acts right in the makeup and you're practically searching for a unicorn.

At this point, anything would be an UPGRADE.

Post by **PterCriss** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:34 pm

Does anyone what to really see the small circus come to town or the real massive mega circus come to town?

Count me in on Kiss 2.0 being a success. Kiss EOR has proven that fans don't care if they sing or not but they do care about a show.

If done right Kiss 2.0 could be huge and one main reason why it will be huge. And that is almost all great touring acts will be retired in 10 years. As we get older who are we going to see in our 60's?

Kiss is the only band that can pull this off and they have 5-8 good tour themes to run with. Kiss 2.0 will be around.

Post by **PterCriss** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:37 pm

Nick Simons and Evan Stanley will probably be two of the guys in Kiss 2.0 -

Soylent Gene · Post by **Soylent Gene** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:06 pm

Truth is, KISS will continue after EOTR whether you like it or not. Doesn't matter who's in the band. It's always been about the show.

ManOf1000Faces · Post by **ManOf1000Faces** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:55 pm

Like I've said before, it'll be a hologram show.

Four-Who-Are-One · Post by **Four-Who-Are-One** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:17 pm

PterCriss wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:37 pm Nick Simons and Evan Stanley will probably be two of the guys in Kiss 2.0 -

I'm still waiting for Nick to join The Doors like Gene tweeted years ago...

Better hurry up before any more of them die!

Tommyr · Post by **Tommyr** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:01 pm

I couldn't care less. I don't like the current half a tribute act. It's a stupid idea anyway.

kenn.ace · Post by **kenn.ace** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:30 pm

HOFCity wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:54 pm I'm at least interested.

will it ever happen ? Only time will tell

I am not interested in KISS 2.0

Easy Catman · Post by **Easy Catman** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:41 pm

Not interested sorry when its done its done, I would probably pay to see a hologram show with the originals if it was done well. I would never go and see a tribute band so official or not, no way.

The Fox · Post by **The Fox** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:55 pm

Velvis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:02 pm Zero interest.

This.

I haven't had any interest in this version of Kiss since 2003 (for me Kiss ended with the poorly produced Symphony performance), so I definitely won't have any interest in a Kiss 2.0 or whatever they'll call it.

LoveGun77 · Post by **LoveGun77** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:49 pm

I will never be ready IF they push it as Kiss.

WI KISSfan · Post by **WI KISSfan** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:00 pm

I've seen a couple KISS tribute acts and while they were fun, they weren't KISS.

I would put KISS 2.0 in that tribute category, so for a $15 cover in a local venue it might be fun but it would never be worth the ticket prices the actual KISS would command.