This is so true. When we have the setlist, footage and pics posted here from every show it's hard to get excited because it all looks the same. But pre-internet days this show would have amazed us if we walked in with little to no knowledge of what they were going to deliver.OblitzO wrote:Just got a message from my 21yo sister, another crüe fan doesn't like kiss. Her exact words were "kiss was fucking amazing". She thought crüe were ok.
I'm surprised. I think us diehards are jaded by the whole thing so we don't necessarily see just how good the show actually is.
For her to be more impressed with kiss when, she doesn't know the songs, doesn't particulary like them and crüe had the more impressive stage show is pretty cool to me.
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I would comment but after reading this thread, feelings might get hurt and I would never want to do that.
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Anyone here do the Perth KISS Meet & Greet - please post comments.
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Darn.Spirited wrote:I would comment but after reading this thread, feelings might get hurt and I would never want to do that.
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Re: Aussie Monster #1: Perth, 2/28/13
Johnholmes wrote:PERTH CONTROLS
hmm Spike (bass tech) vox and 2 named SAMP (sample) .....interesting John!!
or could be borrowing Spike Edney on keys from Queen??
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Re: Aussie Monster #1: Perth, 2/28/13
...and I was so expecting some new, fresh commentary.shupey wrote:Darn.Spirited wrote:I would comment but after reading this thread, feelings might get hurt and I would never want to do that.
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No hurt feelings, just sadness for people that can't move on. Move on as in find another band to hate on.Spirited wrote:I would comment but after reading this thread, feelings might get hurt and I would never want to do that.
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Re: Aussie Monster #1: Perth, 2/28/13
Not sure about the light towers and lighting rig until I see what they do with it.
I like the risers.
I like the setlist.
I like the risers.
I like the setlist.
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Especially yours. I had no idea you were so dainty.shupey wrote:Darn.Spirited wrote:I would comment but after reading this thread, feelings might get hurt and I would never want to do that.
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Yep. That's me. Dainty.Spirited wrote:Especially yours. I had no idea you were so dainty.shupey wrote:Darn.Spirited wrote:I would comment but after reading this thread, feelings might get hurt and I would never want to do that.
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Yes, the new risers are cool and somewhat different......ish.Shane_Penney wrote:Not sure about the light towers and lighting rig until I see what they do with it.
I like the risers.
I like the setlist.
I wonder what else is newish.........
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Thanks......
I like it!
Looks like they've changed quite a bit. The smoking towers are cool, and the new, segemented video screens are, as well.
I like it!
Looks like they've changed quite a bit. The smoking towers are cool, and the new, segemented video screens are, as well.
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Re: Aussie Monster #1: Perth, 2/28/13
Light towers are odd. Lighting rig with the smoke effect during DRC is cool looking. The stage itself is basically the same as the South American tour, which I believe pales in comparison to The Tour's stage.Shane_Penney wrote:Not sure about the light towers and lighting rig until I see what they do with it.
I like the risers.
I like them too, it's a nice change.
It's not a bad set, fairly predictable (I think I nailed it except for Firehouse) but not bad. Wouldn't warrant me going to go see them but PC and War Machine are nice little curveballs thrown in.I like the setlist.
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Don't bother, we all know what the theme would have been...Spirited wrote:I would comment but after reading this thread, feelings might get hurt and I would never want to do that.
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Re: Aussie Monster #1: Perth, 2/28/13
Decent set list.
I'd swap out I Was Made For Loving You, War Machine and Psycho Circus for Tears Are Falling, All Hell's Breakin Loose and Russian Roulette but that's me. Not bad though.
I'd swap out I Was Made For Loving You, War Machine and Psycho Circus for Tears Are Falling, All Hell's Breakin Loose and Russian Roulette but that's me. Not bad though.
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If I had my way with the set this would be it...(staying realistic)strangeways747 wrote:Decent set list.
I'd swap out I Was Made For Loving You, War Machine and Psycho Circus for Tears Are Falling, All Hell's Breakin Loose and Russian Roulette but that's me. Not bad though.
1. Detroit Rock City
2. Shout It Out Loud
3. Hell or Hallelujah
4. Talk To Me
5. Psycho Circus
6. All For The Love of Rock 'n Roll
7. War Machine (w/Firebreathing)
8. Wall of Sound
9. 2000 Man
10. God of Thunder
11. Let Me Go, Rock 'n Roll
12. Shandi
13. Love Gun
14. Black Diamond
15. Cold Gin
16. I Was Made For Lovin' You
17. Rock And Roll All Nite
Kind of a throwback to the 1980 tour with Talk To Me, Cold Gin, 2000 Man...
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Re: Aussie Monster #1: Perth, 2/28/13
KISS Unmasked II wrote:Don't bother, we all know what the theme would have been...Spirited wrote:I would comment but after reading this thread, feelings might get hurt and I would never want to do that.
"mumble, grumble... kiss are crap... whinge, moan... tommy is lame... im a grumpy old curmudgeon who cant move on..."
Never said Kiss was crap
Never said Thayer was Lame. (Never say lame, it is lame)
What exactly do I need to "move on" from? Did I post three reviews of Monster like you did Anomaly to prove I still don't like it?
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When exactly did I post 3 reviews of ANOMALY ?Spirited wrote:KISS Unmasked II wrote:Don't bother, we all know what the theme would have been...Spirited wrote:I would comment but after reading this thread, feelings might get hurt and I would never want to do that.
"mumble, grumble... kiss are crap... whinge, moan... tommy is lame... im a grumpy old curmudgeon who cant move on..."
Never said Kiss was crap
Never said Thayer was Lame. (Never say lame, it is lame)
What exactly do I need to "move on" from? Did I post three reviews of Monster like you did Anomaly to prove I still don't like it?
You comment on how you don't like current KISS every single day, does that really equate to 2 reviews (one upon release and one 3 months down the track) that I posted ?
Try again, Captain Negative...
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Anyway, I'm not going to get into it with the anti-KISS ding-a-lings. I'm too excited to see KISS in 2 days time. The new stage additions look great and I think that's a decent setlist. I've never heard 4 of those songs live and the rest are some of my favorites since childhood. What's to complain about ?
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KISS Unmasked II wrote:Anyway, I'm not going to get into it with the anti-KISS ding-a-lings. I'm too excited to see KISS in 2 days time. The new stage additions look great and I think that's a decent setlist. I've never heard 4 of those songs live and the rest are some of my favorites since childhood. What's to complain about ?
Cool. Have a blast.
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Anomaly wrote:If I had my way with the set this would be it...(staying realistic)strangeways747 wrote:Decent set list.
I'd swap out I Was Made For Loving You, War Machine and Psycho Circus for Tears Are Falling, All Hell's Breakin Loose and Russian Roulette but that's me. Not bad though.
1. Detroit Rock City
2. Shout It Out Loud
3. Hell or Hallelujah
4. Talk To Me
5. Psycho Circus
6. All For The Love of Rock 'n Roll
7. War Machine (w/Firebreathing)
8. Wall of Sound
9. 2000 Man
10. God of Thunder
11. Let Me Go, Rock 'n Roll
12. Shandi
13. Love Gun
14. Black Diamond
15. Cold Gin
16. I Was Made For Lovin' You
17. Rock And Roll All Nite
Kind of a throwback to the 1980 tour with Talk To Me, Cold Gin, 2000 Man...
Not a bad set, Anomaly. And you've given Thomas some mic time...I can only assume to give Stanley a rest?
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2 reviews, either way the point remains the same.KISS Unmasked II wrote:When exactly did I post 3 reviews of ANOMALY ?Spirited wrote:KISS Unmasked II wrote:Don't bother, we all know what the theme would have been...Spirited wrote:I would comment but after reading this thread, feelings might get hurt and I would never want to do that.
"mumble, grumble... kiss are crap... whinge, moan... tommy is lame... im a grumpy old curmudgeon who cant move on..."
Never said Kiss was crap
Never said Thayer was Lame. (Never say lame, it is lame)
What exactly do I need to "move on" from? Did I post three reviews of Monster like you did Anomaly to prove I still don't like it?
You comment on how you don't like current KISS every single day, does that really equate to 2 reviews (one upon release and one 3 months down the track) that I posted ?
Try again, Captain Negative...
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Cheers. I'm sure I will.shupey wrote:KISS Unmasked II wrote:Anyway, I'm not going to get into it with the anti-KISS ding-a-lings. I'm too excited to see KISS in 2 days time. The new stage additions look great and I think that's a decent setlist. I've never heard 4 of those songs live and the rest are some of my favorites since childhood. What's to complain about ?
Cool. Have a blast.
I will be taking a few shots with the iPhone so I will post anything that comes out decent that night or the next day. I'm in the Hot Zone so right near the stage.
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Re: Aussie Monster #1: Perth, 2/28/13
The stage looks nice. sure, it's not the new stage but a rearranged old stage with some new bits, but it looks much nicer that their previous attempts.
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It does.Ratmir wrote:The stage looks nice. sure, it's not the new stage but a rearranged old stage with some new bits, but it looks much nicer that their previous attempts.
I give credit where its due. The stage does look more modern and high tech, which is nice to see.
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Ha hafirekiss wrote:I'll look for you. ALways a good laugh to watch a grown man act like a child. Rock on!steveh67 wrote:Nah I will throw pics of original kiss at themfirekiss wrote:Just how do you propose to do that? Throw your dummy at them?steveh67 wrote:I'm looking forward to giving the scabs hell in Sydney
I won't look like a Kiss fan this time
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Re: Aussie Monster #1: Perth, 2/28/13
Id guess this was a monitor desk, with "Spike Vox" as talkback for Gene for cues etc in his IEM maybe, and "samples" being for the intro drone noise.Johnholmes wrote:PERTH CONTROLS
Either that or Spike's vocals are added to the front of house mix would would open up another giant can or worms indeed
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The show went 98 minutes give or take a minute.
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I'm not seeing too many old bits to be honest. There's no logo, just the big screen across the back, those 6 big arms (???), the extendable risers for Tommy's solo and the finale and the layout itself looks new too (riser, stage amps/screens). Hopefully we get some better shots come through. Otherwise I will describe it in detail on sunday. Either way, looks very cool. Sparse but cool.Rockandrolloverman wrote:It does.Ratmir wrote:The stage looks nice. sure, it's not the new stage but a rearranged old stage with some new bits, but it looks much nicer that their previous attempts.
I give credit where its due. The stage does look more modern and high tech, which is nice to see.
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So they pointed to each other and just stood there? Oh, they raised up too, I forgot... Wow.WickedLynch wrote:Was that Tommy/Eric solo thing a big 'fuck you we're in KISS' to the haters?
I loved it, they raised up and pointed to each other then just stood there, 'yeah we're not the originals, fuck you who cares'
It doesn't get sillier than this, Kiss needs you badly...
I get it though, YOU don't give a fuck about the originals - all four of them. And you think it's funny... YOU are a hater!!!
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The "amp" layout seems to be the same as the South American tour, which was a mash-up of the Sonic Boom and Farewell stage.KISS Unmasked II wrote:I'm not seeing too many old bits to be honest. There's no logo, just the big screen across the back, those 6 big arms (???), the extendable risers for Tommy's solo and the finale and the layout itself looks new too (riser, stage amps/screens). Hopefully we get some better shots come through. Otherwise I will describe it in detail on sunday. Either way, looks very cool. Sparse but cool.Rockandrolloverman wrote:It does.Ratmir wrote:The stage looks nice. sure, it's not the new stage but a rearranged old stage with some new bits, but it looks much nicer that their previous attempts.
I give credit where its due. The stage does look more modern and high tech, which is nice to see.
EDIT: Nevermind, looks different...I thought it looked the same from a certain angle earlier.
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Mahatma wrote:So they pointed to each other and just stood there? Oh, they raised up too, I forgot... Wow.WickedLynch wrote:Was that Tommy/Eric solo thing a big 'fuck you we're in KISS' to the haters?
I loved it, they raised up and pointed to each other then just stood there, 'yeah we're not the originals, fuck you who cares'
It doesn't get sillier than this, Kiss needs you badly...
I get it though, YOU don't give a fuck about the originals - all four of them. And you think it's funny... YOU are a hater!!!
Oh calm down, Aunt Esther.
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GOT!
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Re: Aussie Monster #1: Perth, 2/28/13
From what I understand there is a logo in the centre of the stage and 4 screens. Then these screens turn into one big screen. Is that correct?KISS Unmasked II wrote:I'm not seeing too many old bits to be honest. There's no logo, just the big screen across the back, those 6 big arms (???), the extendable risers for Tommy's solo and the finale and the layout itself looks new too (riser, stage amps/screens). Hopefully we get some better shots come through. Otherwise I will describe it in detail on sunday. Either way, looks very cool. Sparse but cool.Rockandrolloverman wrote:It does.Ratmir wrote:The stage looks nice. sure, it's not the new stage but a rearranged old stage with some new bits, but it looks much nicer that their previous attempts.
I give credit where its due. The stage does look more modern and high tech, which is nice to see.
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Re: Aussie Monster #1: Perth, 2/28/13
Besides the ones onstage, there are a few confetti blowers in the middle of the arena, so everyone gets covered.
Also clip of PAUL FLYING.
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Also clip of PAUL FLYING.
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there is a logo the screen splits in half and the logo is thereKISS Unmasked II wrote:I'm not seeing too many old bits to be honest. There's no logo, just the big screen across the back, those 6 big arms (???), the extendable risers for Tommy's solo and the finale and the layout itself looks new too (riser, stage amps/screens). Hopefully we get some better shots come through. Otherwise I will describe it in detail on sunday. Either way, looks very cool. Sparse but cool.Rockandrolloverman wrote:It does.Ratmir wrote:The stage looks nice. sure, it's not the new stage but a rearranged old stage with some new bits, but it looks much nicer that their previous attempts.
I give credit where its due. The stage does look more modern and high tech, which is nice to see.
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For several reasons actually.Robdaddy wrote:Not a bad set, Anomaly. And you've given Thomas some mic time...I can only assume to give Stanley a rest?Anomaly wrote:If I had my way with the set this would be it...(staying realistic)strangeways747 wrote:Decent set list.
I'd swap out I Was Made For Loving You, War Machine and Psycho Circus for Tears Are Falling, All Hell's Breakin Loose and Russian Roulette but that's me. Not bad though.
1. Detroit Rock City
2. Shout It Out Loud
3. Hell or Hallelujah
4. Talk To Me
5. Psycho Circus
6. All For The Love of Rock 'n Roll
7. War Machine (w/Firebreathing)
8. Wall of Sound
9. 2000 Man
10. God of Thunder
11. Let Me Go, Rock 'n Roll
12. Shandi
13. Love Gun
14. Black Diamond
15. Cold Gin
16. I Was Made For Lovin' You
17. Rock And Roll All Nite
Kind of a throwback to the 1980 tour with Talk To Me, Cold Gin, 2000 Man...
1. Yes, to give Paul some rest...I mean shit, there's a six song break for him after Psycho Circus.
2. Outta This World sucks.
3. I'm genuinely curious to see how he would do on Talk To Me and 2000 Man...after the whole Shock Me debacle I just say whatever, let him sing whatever they want him to. I personally don't care anymore.
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Of course you won't. The Kiss fans at the show will be enjoying the show, not having tantrums.steveh67 wrote:Ha hafirekiss wrote:I'll look for you. ALways a good laugh to watch a grown man act like a child. Rock on!steveh67 wrote:Nah I will throw pics of original kiss at themfirekiss wrote:Just how do you propose to do that? Throw your dummy at them?steveh67 wrote:I'm looking forward to giving the scabs hell in Sydney
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Too many stars in your eyes, Mr. Nice Guy.Starryeyed Guy wrote:Mahatma wrote:So they pointed to each other and just stood there? Oh, they raised up too, I forgot... Wow.WickedLynch wrote:Was that Tommy/Eric solo thing a big 'fuck you we're in KISS' to the haters?
I loved it, they raised up and pointed to each other then just stood there, 'yeah we're not the originals, fuck you who cares'
It doesn't get sillier than this, Kiss needs you badly...
I get it though, YOU don't give a fuck about the originals - all four of them. And you think it's funny... YOU are a hater!!!
Oh calm down, Aunt Esther.
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I wasnt going to go, but my parnter has never seen them and I havent seen Crue. Now a few days out from Melb im getting excited to see them one last time. The stage at least is something diffrent, looks ok, those claws remind me a little of the 95 tour. Paul sounds ok (except on IWMFLU) ill be in the Destroyer area which i assume is where Paul will fly out too, ill get some photos and video, a tourbook (prob from kissonline as everything seems cheaper) and maybe a t shirt. It will be a fun time to remember regardless. With with tour and the Icy poles i kinda feel like im 11yo again, which is not so bad
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LOL it's actually titled 'Good' of Thunder on that YouTube post!Johnholmes wrote:GOT!
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Bingo.firekiss wrote:Of course you won't. The Kiss fans at the show will be enjoying the show, not having tantrums.steveh67 wrote:Ha hafirekiss wrote:I'll look for you. ALways a good laugh to watch a grown man act like a child. Rock on!steveh67 wrote:Nah I will throw pics of original kiss at themfirekiss wrote:Just how do you propose to do that? Throw your dummy at them?steveh67 wrote:I'm looking forward to giving the scabs hell in Sydney
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metaldad wrote:Fly during a Different song? Or how about Not flying at all? Bon Jovi and David Lee Roth did this shit in the 80'sandykiss78 wrote:What do you want him to do...swim?metaldad wrote:Ground breaking stuffVaughanGF wrote:Love gun Paul flies
Mick Jagger flew back in '75.
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Never stopped you before old timer!!Spirited wrote:I would comment but after reading this thread, feelings might get hurt and I would never want to do that.
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Re: Aussie Monster #1: Perth, 2/28/13
the jagger thing was a trapeze that he swung over the first few rows of the crowds jim morrison had done this at a few of the doors shows in 1969
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Re: Aussie Monster #1: Perth, 2/28/13
OblitzO wrote:Just got a message from my 21yo sister, another crüe fan doesn't like kiss. Her exact words were "kiss was fucking amazing". She thought crüe were ok.
I'm surprised. I think us diehards are jaded by the whole thing so we don't necessarily see just how good the show actually is.
For her to be more impressed with kiss when, she doesn't know the songs, doesn't particulary like them and crüe had the more impressive stage show is pretty cool to me.
Why do Crue have the more impressive stage show? Can you be specific?
I think KISS fans are so used to the KISS stage show that they can't see it from a person's perspective who has never seen KISS.
Once again, please tell me how the hell the Crue have a better stage show. Apart from Tommy's rollercoaster, what else is there?
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Re: Aussie Monster #1: Perth, 2/28/13
The rollercoaster is cool but the one thing that bugs me apart from the DJ shit Tommy forces the fans through is the speed of the actual thing. When I think rollercoasters, I think fast. Tommy's ain't.andykiss78 wrote:OblitzO wrote:Just got a message from my 21yo sister, another crüe fan doesn't like kiss. Her exact words were "kiss was fucking amazing". She thought crüe were ok.
I'm surprised. I think us diehards are jaded by the whole thing so we don't necessarily see just how good the show actually is.
For her to be more impressed with kiss when, she doesn't know the songs, doesn't particulary like them and crüe had the more impressive stage show is pretty cool to me.
Why do Crue have the more impressive stage show? Can you be specific?
I think KISS fans are so used to the KISS stage show that they can't see it from a person's perspective who has never seen KISS.
Once again, please tell me how the hell the Crue have a better stage show. Apart from Tommy's rollercoaster, what else is there?
The rest of motleys stage looks like the roadies gave up with all the scaffolding still in place.