2017 Show #4 - Reno, NV

Post by **Admin** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:36 pm

Size of venue meant no flying for G or P. Drum lift, cherry-pickers for end. Sparse stage, but a long show. Set feels odd right now. Thrilled to hear the return of Say Yeah and glad FY remained. There'll always be analysis, but it was balanced for the casuals and a couple of gems for the dorks. Just wish Gene would do the bass fiff to Mr. Blackwell as the intro to GOT. 20 notes, diehard's minds blown. Paul looked great, he and G worked their asses off. Total respect. Tommy and Eric held things down. A bit sloppy, but fuck me saw KISS tonight. All good, eating cookies and milk!

Post by **Admin** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:37 pm

Great crowd. Met a bunch of cool online folks. Salut!

KISSworld1972 · Post by **KISSworld1972** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:02 pm

Get some cool stuff signed during the M&G?

L1 · Post by L1 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:11 pm

Nice! How was Paul's voice during the actual concert?

black diamond · Post by **black diamond** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:33 pm

Thanks for the updates! Hope they keep Flaming Youth and Hide Your Heart for the Europe shows.

Smekaren · Post by **Smekaren** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:18 am

Thanks for the updates, Julian!

Dr Like · Post by **Dr Like** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:39 am

L1 · Post by L1 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:44 am

Dr Like wrote:Great great show! Saw Admin in the drink line and we had a fun chat. Had a great time - show was great, people were awesome, it was a great night. Longer review when I'm on a real computer and not posting from my phone.

So much fun!!!!!

So glad to hear that! I'm getting really pumped up by this — I'm seeing KISS with my family in two weeks. My boys love KISS and have never seen them, so this is a special one.

Supertrooper · Post by **Supertrooper** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:01 am

Interestingly enough; they didn't play " I was made for lovin' you".

Pete2174 · Post by **Pete2174** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:19 am

I like the variety of that set list. Why Psycho Circus is at the end of the set is a bit odd though.
Overall if that's the set for this tour can't complain too much!!!

Supertrooper · Post by **Supertrooper** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:40 am

Yeah "Psycho Circus" at the end of the show is kinda surprising.
I don't think it's among their best songs to begin with, and the "Welcome to the show!" bit is a bit late in arriving....but oh well.
I hope Paul said his "We're only getting staaaaaaarted!" right after that one...

"Say yeah" is a cool surprise imo.
"Hide your heart" too is a surprise, not the coolest of the cool, but I guess Paul gets the crowd singing on that one.
"Crazy, Crazy Nights" is sort of an expected surprise... It also makes total sense to play that one in Europe, and this show is probably regarded as a sort of warm up before the tour.

Overall some nice changes in the setlist regarding the "Paul-songs", nothing in the "gene department" and Tommy doing " Shock me" is actually a bit boring...It's not that I think he steps on holy ground, just that he is not Ace, and that song needs Ace...
Eric singing Black Diamond works because it's a really great song....
Shock me is just OK, but Ace brings it to life. Because it showcased HIS personality.

Wonder if they will bring "I was made for loving you" back.

wise · Post by **wise** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:23 am

Was Paul's voice this good and did Tommy play the solo like Bruce?

pete1699 · Post by **pete1699** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:00 am

Wow!
I'm impressed with that setlist!

Fickdich · Post by **Fickdich** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:05 am

OMG! AWESOME!!!

peopleselbow · Post by **peopleselbow** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:21 am

Thanks for the play by play !

Post by **Admin** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:49 am

Too funny. They were gracious.

metaldad · Post by **metaldad** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:37 am

They don't do COTN but they do Crazy Nights
Ok

metaldad · Post by **metaldad** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:38 am

Admin wrote:Too funny. They were gracious.

Awesome pic
Did they say anything about your shirt ?

Ikons · Post by **Ikons** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:03 am

No video yet... get uploadin'!

Post by **Admin** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:59 am

metaldad wrote:
Admin wrote:Too funny. They were gracious.
Awesome pic
Did they say anything about your shirt ?

Nothing. Wasn't expected or the sort of event for that sort of thing. And if it gets edited out of the official photo wouldn't be shocked or hurt either.

Post by **Admin** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:08 am

Ikons wrote:No video yet... get uploadin'!

The rest I filmed will be in the next KISSFAQ Podcast Episode.

stlkiss · Post by **stlkiss** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:32 am

Admin wrote:Rise Your Heart - just kidding, still playing Psycho

Erwin · Post by **Erwin** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:39 am

Ikons · Post by **Ikons** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:54 am

Admin wrote:
Ikons wrote:No video yet... get uploadin'!

The rest I filmed will be in the next KISSFAQ Podcast Episode.

Eric looks pissed! He keeps signalling that the bass is too loud.

pepperkitty · Post by **pepperkitty** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:33 am

Paul sounds great!
on side note , i would hate to be their techs at these things.

L1 · Post by L1 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:23 am

I listened to what I could find from the Reno show on Youtube, and they sounded better than they've done for some time if you ask me!

asamphord · Post by **asamphord** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:46 am

Supertrooper wrote:Interestingly enough; they didn't play " I was made for lovin' you".

this surprises you? it's not really a setlist staple in the US.

Ikons · Post by **Ikons** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:47 am

I watched a Flaming Youth video, and that seems to be one of the songs that really gets everyone going. Tommy's voice, at least I think it's Tommy, fills out the chorus really well.

During the intro of I Love It Loud there's another "hey asshole, spotlight!" moment from Gene

Post by **Admin** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:50 pm

Supertrooper wrote:Interestingly enough; they didn't play " I was made for lovin' you".

Keith shared the set list. It was listed before RARAN but was thankfully scratched. Show was long enough without it and it's one of the songs I can live without hearing.

Supertrooper · Post by **Supertrooper** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:01 pm

Admin wrote:
Supertrooper wrote:Interestingly enough; they didn't play " I was made for lovin' you".
Keith shared the set list. It was listed before RARAN but was thankfully scratched. Show was long enough without it and it's one of the songs I can live without hearing.

So can probably most people on KISSFAQ

I would imagine it would be a big crowdpleaser, like it is in all other parts of the world they play, that's why I was surprised.

pete1699 · Post by **pete1699** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:17 pm

Admin wrote:Size of venue meant no flying for G or P. Drum lift, cherry-pickers for end. Sparse stage, but a long show. Set feels odd right now. Thrilled to hear the return of Say Yeah and glad FY remained. There'll always be analysis, but it was balanced for the casuals and a couple of gems for the dorks. Just wish Gene would do the bass fiff to Mr. Blackwell as the intro to GOT. 20 notes, diehard's minds blown. Paul looked great, he and G worked their asses off. Total respect. Tommy and Eric held things down. A bit sloppy, but fuck me saw KISS tonight. All good, eating cookies and milk!

That is a great idea for gene to play the bass for blackwell before his blood spitting.
You're absolutely right. If he did that I'd go nuts.
But I'm more than happy with that setlist they played and the clips I've seen sound great

LordThurisaz · Post by **LordThurisaz** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:18 pm

I'm not seeing the Mr Blackwell thing being all that cool. 5 people recognize it, and 4 of them are pissed it isn't the full song. Otherwise, the show seems pretty cool other than Psycho Circus' strange placement in the setlist. Either 1st/2nd, or not at all.

peopleselbow · Post by **peopleselbow** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:44 pm

Admin wrote:
Supertrooper wrote:Interestingly enough; they didn't play " I was made for lovin' you".
Keith shared the set list. It was listed before RARAN but was thankfully scratched. Show was long enough without it and it's one of the songs I can live without hearing.

THIS !!!

Post by **Admin** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:30 pm

Supertrooper wrote:
Admin wrote:
Supertrooper wrote:Interestingly enough; they didn't play " I was made for lovin' you".
Keith shared the set list. It was listed before RARAN but was thankfully scratched. Show was long enough without it and it's one of the songs I can live without hearing.
So can probably most people on KISSFAQ
I would imagine it would be a big crowdpleaser, like it is in all other parts of the world they play, that's why I was surprised.

Wouldn't be surprised if it replaces Say Yeah tonight.

Wild Animals · Post by **Wild Animals** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:55 pm

Did they have any new merch? I got the one shirt with the Creatures costumes that they had during the Oklahoma shows

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:18 am

Merch was sparse - no new tour book yet....shirts were meh.....I had a great talk with Eric, so I bought a drum head. Tommy was cool so I plopped down the dough for the mini guitar as well.
Was cool running into 'Admin'.....great talks

Smekaren · Post by **Smekaren** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:07 am

Kissologist · Post by **Kissologist** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:23 am

Erwin wrote:

Nice. Paul sounds good.

Post by **Admin** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:50 am

Opening song from the show; and the only full song I videoed at the show. Married with alternate non-phone audio. Includes a bit of the beginning of "Love Gun." Dreadful seating position, but that's where I pressed "STOPPED" to enjoy as much of the show as possible in a fanboy haze... A few other partial clips will be shown as part of Ep.121 of the KISSFAQ Podcast.

Dr Like · Post by **Dr Like** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:28 pm

Mr Slow · Post by **Mr Slow** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:03 pm

Great write up Dr Like. Sounds like an awesome night.
I would also welcome back Eric's bazooka stunt. That was a fun effect. As for the KISS logo, using the 4 letters as giant individual screens would be a great idea I think. Something new and different.

Post by **Admin** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:30 pm

Great review!

: Track01-06_I Love It Loud.mp3; (549.07 KiB) Downloaded 51 times

KrazySwede · Post by **KrazySwede** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:54 pm

Good and detailed review - the qoutation below, I think is a good observation....

Dr Like wrote:.... I have no problem with Paul's voice and its natural aging process but the criticisms of it are always in the back of my head when watching them.

All the talk about those voice-issues risk exaggerating the problems.....and perhaps sometimes criticizing him unfairly.......

PsychoElder · Post by **PsychoElder** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:16 pm

Fantastic review Dr. Like. Fun read.

Dr Like · Post by **Dr Like** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:23 pm

Erwin · Post by **Erwin** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:06 am

Tons of pics and... a link to this thread...

http://rocksubculture.com/2017/04/23/ki ... ew-photos/