FTR 2016 Show #1 - Tucson, AZ - July 4

sevenhellsband · Post by **sevenhellsband** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:14 pm

Anybody relaying info, it has to have started by now right?

saintsinner2007 · Post by **saintsinner2007** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:27 pm

Probably didn't start yet. Only 8:30 local time right now.

LordThurisaz · Post by **LordThurisaz** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:46 pm

In before #TiredSetlist.

onetime17 · Post by **onetime17** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:48 pm

I believe they go on in like 10 minutes....

LordThurisaz · Post by **LordThurisaz** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:55 pm

onetime17 wrote:I believe they go on in like 10 minutes....

Do we know who is at the show from the board? And are they going to be updating us on the setlist or...?

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:14 pm

LordThurisaz wrote:
onetime17 wrote:I believe they go on in like 10 minutes....
Do we know who is at the show from the board? And are they going to be updating us on the setlist or...?

rscott71 is there. I hope we get a review.

onetime17 · Post by **onetime17** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:16 pm

Wish there was someway to get info on this, been checking social media...nothing as of yet.

onetime17 · Post by **onetime17** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:18 pm

They opened with Detroit Rock City....

onetime17 · Post by **onetime17** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:21 pm

Stage has giant KISS letters lit behind Eric,...actually they were only on video screen I believe.

KISSFACE · Post by **KISSFACE** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:31 pm

They're broadcasting live on Facebook, I heard some Creatures Of The Night, but the feed is so skippy-jittery I can't even tell if they're tuned down or up.

Rockker · Post by **Rockker** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:34 pm

DetroitnRock City
Shout it out loud (terrible spot)
Creatures of the night

onetime17 · Post by **onetime17** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:36 pm

Is there a link to this live feed?

KISSFACE · Post by **KISSFACE** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:44 pm

onetime17 wrote:Is there a link to this live feed?

It's not live anymore, but it's a public post so you should be able to see some playback. Video quality is worse than - y'know, I'm not sure of the precise year the first internet video streams began to happen, but I imagine those were better than this.

nitrokiss · Post by **nitrokiss** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:47 pm

So, Paul, followed by Paul and Gene, and then another one for Paul.

Was really hoping for a Creatures opener followed by Deuce...

KISSFACE · Post by **KISSFACE** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:57 pm

Pah, video post deleted, but here's a new photo:

Bare bones staging for this one, but it's a casino gig. I suppose the more Vegas-style stage is set-up for July 7.

Mr Slow · Post by **Mr Slow** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:17 pm

KISSFACE wrote:Pah, video post deleted, but here's a new photo:

Bare bones staging for this one, but it's a casino gig. I suppose the more Vegas-style stage is set-up for July 7.

His face looks like a shot from the 70's here. Love Gun era maybe ?

saintsinner2007 · Post by **saintsinner2007** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:25 pm

Heres some more setlist info from later in the show:

Gene blood (did not fly)
I Love It Loud
100,000 Years

C · Post by C » Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:31 pm

Yes it looks very Love Gunesque

onetime17 · Post by **onetime17** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:33 pm

They are also doing Beth...

onetime17 · Post by **onetime17** » Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:41 pm

Paul just had everyone do the pledge of allegiance, then they played the star-spangled banner on guitar followed by RnR All Nite.

asamphord · Post by **asamphord** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:45 am

no setlist yet? c'mon Tucson peeps!

asamphord · Post by **asamphord** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:46 am

Fickdich · Post by **Fickdich** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:52 am

saintsinner2007 wrote:Heres some more setlist info from later in the show:

Gene blood (did not fly)
I Love It Loud
100,000 Years

That sounds promising and exciting.

asamphord · Post by **asamphord** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:53 am

from rscott:

DRC
Deuce
SIOL
COTN
War Machine (gene fire)
Psycho Circus
Calling Dr Love
Shock Me (tommy shoots sparklers)
Cold Gin
LIU
ILIL (gene blood)
100000 Years
Love Gun
Black Diamond
Beth
Star Spangled Banner
RARAN

Fickdich · Post by **Fickdich** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:54 am

asamphord wrote:from rscott:

DRC
Deuce
SIOL
COTN
War Machine (gene fire)
Psycho Circus
Calling Dr Love
Shock Me (tommy shoots sparklers)
Cold Gin
LIU
ILIL (gene blood)
100000 Years
Love Gun
Black Diamond
Beth
Star Spangled Banner
RARAN

AWESOME!!! Wooooooohoooooo....!!!

Sam T Serpent · Post by **Sam T Serpent** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:56 am

asamphord wrote:from rscott:

DRC
Deuce
SIOL
COTN
War Machine (gene fire)
Psycho Circus
Calling Dr Love
Shock Me (tommy shoots sparklers)
Cold Gin
LIU
ILIL (gene blood)
100000 Years
Love Gun
Black Diamond
Beth
Star Spangled Banner
RARAN

Very standard. I would have swapped CDL for Ladies Room and 100,000 Years for Rock Bottom.

Tail of a hurricane · Post by **Tail of a hurricane** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:04 am

I still can't get my head around Eric singing "Beth".

asamphord · Post by **asamphord** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:06 am

I spit the hangman wrote:I still can't get my head around Eric singing "Beth".

you've had 6 years to get used to the idea!

KISSFACE · Post by **KISSFACE** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:16 am

asamphord wrote:
I spit the hangman wrote:I still can't get my head around Eric singing "Beth".
you've had 6 years to get used to the idea!

I recall he was warming it up as early as 2001!

Randell Stevens · Post by **Randell Stevens** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:23 am

Standard set from the boys here, ILiL, LII, and Love Gun are so overplayed. Would it kill them to play something they don't always play?
Ladies Room, ISYL, Take Me, hell something from the eighties beside, HOF, TAF, or HTH would me welcome. Side note I enjoy Eric S. Doing Beth like in the clip, except that last note, lol.

jconnors · Post by **jconnors** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:11 am

I wonder when was the last tour they didn't play I love it loud and Love gun? If ever?

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douloveme · Post by **douloveme** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:29 am

Why is Psycho Circus a staple nowadays? This setlist is embarrassing. Are we supposed to be excited about the return of Beth?!

At the Indy Expo, Tommy made a point of saying, in no uncertain terms, that the setlist would be different for this tour. Yeah right!!

Let's hope the setlist evolves into something more exciting than this as the tour progresses...

Tail of a hurricane · Post by **Tail of a hurricane** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:38 am

asamphord wrote:
I spit the hangman wrote:I still can't get my head around Eric singing "Beth".
you've had 6 years to get used to the idea!

I know, but it's an idea I don't like.

*Chameleon* · Post by ***Chameleon*** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:43 am

Pretty standard, let's hope that this is just a warm-up but - According to Setlist.fm:

Detroit Rock City

Deuce

Shout It Out Loud

Creatures of the Night

War Machine

Psycho Circus

Calling Dr. Love

Shock Me

Cold Gin

Lick It Up

Bass Solo
(Gene Simmons spits blood)>
I Love It Loud

100,000 Years

Love Gun

Black Diamond

Encores:
Beth

Rock and Roll All Nite

Fickdich · Post by **Fickdich** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:49 am

All the classics and big hits in one set. I think you cannot ask for more.

Well done, KISS! That's how the big boys do it. They always deliver and never disappoint.

Just another proof that they are still THE HOTTEST BAND IN THE WORLD!!!

Thank you KISS!!!

Homer Simpson · Post by **Homer Simpson** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:02 am

jconnors wrote:I wonder when was the last tour they didn't play I love it loud and Love gun? If ever?

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I Love It Loud wasn't played during the Reunion or Psycho Circus tours. I think Love Gun has been played on every tour since it was released.

SureKnowSomething · Post by **SureKnowSomething** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:07 am

I spit the hangman wrote:
asamphord wrote:
I spit the hangman wrote:I still can't get my head around Eric singing "Beth".
you've had 6 years to get used to the idea!

I know, but it's an idea I don't like.

It really is pointless without Peter there to sing it. Especially with the shorter set lists, they could play a better song instead. If they want the ballad slot, how about Forever? Done properly, not standing at the front fumbling around with guitars.

vinniestkulick · Post by **vinniestkulick** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:12 am

Rock and Roll all nite, and party like it's 1999. A set list frozen in time... the same sort of lazy set list they used to blame Ace and Peter for is NOT how the big boys do it. The big boys put out NEW music and perform it. Nothing from Sonic Boom or Monster... really?!?

Beth, really? Acoustic, or no? Can New York Groove be far behind?

Post by **elleneff** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:26 am

vinniestkulick wrote:Rock and Roll all nite, and party like it's 1999. A set list frozen in time... the same sort of lazy set list they used to blame Ace and Peter for is NOT how the big boys do it. The big boys put out NEW music and perform it. Nothing from Sonic Boom or Monster... really?!?

Beth, really? Acoustic, or no? Can New York Groove be far behind?

They love sonic and Monster so much, they have ignored them totally. LOL

The same set list , no surprises unless you pay for the meet and greet etc.
Same old same old.

kissthat · Post by **kissthat** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:33 am

Sorry, old tired , SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORT setlist. Yes only 6.5 Paul songs,a step in the right direction,but only 16 songs is a little short.Guessing Kiss contracted for 80/90 minutes stage time for this little tour.

pete1699 · Post by **pete1699** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:43 am

douloveme wrote:Why is Psycho Circus a staple nowadays? This setlist is embarrassing. Are we supposed to be excited about the return of Beth?!

At the Indy Expo, Tommy made a point of saying, in no uncertain terms, that the setlist would be different for this tour. Yeah right!!

Let's hope the setlist evolves into something more exciting than this as the tour progresses...

That's what I'm hoping as well. Maybe since it was a casino show, they were a little more basic with setlist I'm hoping?
But I'm not gonna hold my breath .

KingOfHearts89 · Post by **KingOfHearts89** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:32 am

Psycho Circus again! This shouldn't be in the setlist, Considering how much Paul & Gene hated that era they do love playing that bloody song!
Cold Gin again! how about Watchin You? The lyrics are piss easy to remember. Treat the fans to Unholy? Nope...
Lick it Up again! How awesome would a 9 minute medley of non make-up Kiss be instead! From Lick It Up into Heavens On Fire into Tears Are Falling into Crazy Crazy Nights into Hide Your Heart!?!

Hmmmm.... Psycho Circus 6 minutes long, 100,000 years at least 6 minutes long, Cold Gin about 5 minutes long, Lick it up about 8 minutes long with the added who bit. 25 minutes for 4 songs, they could easily do 6 or 7 shorter songs in that time! For me, this is the Killer. If you have time restraints which means you can only pull out a 16/17 song set, why play longer songs.

They apparently rehearsed for this tour too!
Although, to their credit. Beth was played with electric guitars so that's different.

I just hope because it was a casino show they had to make some adjustments to the set list last minute, we'll just have to wait and see...

NightmareChild · Post by **NightmareChild** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:36 am

Paul said last year his two favourite albums were Sonic Boom and Monster. Good to see they're totally ignoring them.

KingOfHearts89 · Post by **KingOfHearts89** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:40 am

Here are some vids from the show

WinnieWincent · Post by **WinnieWincent** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:47 am

Disappointing. Shock me and Beth while yes they give Paul a break are boring at this point. Long shot but if they're gonna do the national anthem they should just do Spit instead. WHERE THE 80'S AT!? Non makeup to be specific

gshaller · Post by **gshaller** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:47 am

asamphord wrote:from rscott:

DRC
Deuce
SIOL
COTN
War Machine (gene fire)
Psycho Circus
Calling Dr Love
Shock Me (tommy shoots sparklers)
Cold Gin
LIU
ILIL (gene blood)
100000 Years
Love Gun
Black Diamond
Beth
Star Spangled Banner
RARAN

I've seen 23 KISS concerts between 1992 and 2014.

I haven't heard "Creatures" since 1992.
I haven't heard "Star Spangled Banner" since 1992.
I haven't heard "Beth" since 2003.

For me, this would be a cool setlist. Yes, I want more rarities and variation, and I'd still enjoy this setlist.

JohnBergless · Post by **JohnBergless** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:52 am

Tom shouldn't be doing Shock Me now. Outta This World, or maybe Cold Gin. Also, I expect there's a few alternate songs up thier sleeves. They've been known to swap songs. That's how COTN came back...it started during the meet n greets. And don't forget, there's a whole crew offstage who needs to have cues, and light sequences mapped out for every song. It's a group effort to change up the setlist.....and make it appealing to the audience

Mahatma · Post by **Mahatma** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:32 am

Setlist very similar to the one they played in Vegas, but worse.

Shock Me and Beth? That must be really be an inside joke.

I Love It Loud, Lick It Up? Please, don't.

Star Spangled Banner? Wholly unnecessary.

So many other great songs to choose from... what a shame! And this is supposed to be the lineup that CAN play.

Also, what about some songs from Sonic Boom and Monster? Aren't they great?

marcx · Post by **marcx** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:36 am

Often times casino shows are truncated--but we shall see--I still expect this tour to be pretty basic setwise since the point is to go places they have not been in a while

totiefields · Post by **totiefields** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:45 am

marcx wrote:I stil lexpect this tur to be pretty basic setwise since the point is to go places they have not been in a while

Exactly. They don't craft their set list so Joe Keyboard analyzing every set for every show can type new songs. Summer fair tour where you are definitely not playing to diehards is tailor made for the classics. How do people not see this. I said it as soon as the tour was announced. On here.