N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

Post by kissthat » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:22 am

cwr18 wrote:
nitrokiss wrote:When Paul introduced Tommy, a few people said Tommy?
The "few people" will become thousands here and confirm Gene and Paul have hidden TT from the public intentionally. :alien:
That's FAQmath for ya. :lol:

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

Post by cwr18 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:29 am

kissthat wrote:
cwr18 wrote:
nitrokiss wrote:When Paul introduced Tommy, a few people said Tommy?
The "few people" will become thousands here and confirm Gene and Paul have hidden TT from the public intentionally. :alien:
That's FAQmath for ya. :lol:
Peeps gotta feed their agendas, ya know. :)

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

Post by Crown Royal » Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:04 am

Fortress wrote:Just FYI,Edmonton is a super hot market right now,the economy is booming and people here have money. Kiss has not played here since the Farewell tour (Sonic Boom tour was fucked due to the Canadian Final Rodeo) There was little doubt that Kiss would do well,deep pockets and the people are hungry for it.
:lol:

Even when KISS do well, it's not their 'fault'

So, what we know now is:

1) Edmonton has lots of money

2) KISS is in Edmonton

3) people in Edmonton have so much money, they will buy a KISS ticket just to get rid of some of that money

4) the fact they bought a KISS ticket in no way shows KISS is a popular draw, it simply shows Edmontonians have too much money

:lol:

fucking unreal

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

Post by Crown Royal » Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:13 am

from the article:

"He is still, at 61, one of the finest practitioners of Rock ‘n’ Rollese ever seen."

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

Post by Crown Royal » Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:14 am

oh shit..also from the article:

"...The original members Ace Frehley (lead guitar) and Peter Criss (drums) aren’t in the band anymore, and if anyone complained, no one heard. The “other two guys” — Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer — were capable replacements. In fact, they’re an improvement."

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

Post by Pollux » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:57 pm

So, how was it? 2 pages already...

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

Post by kissthat » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:02 pm

Red Walrus wrote:Loved the show, so did my son. Pauls' voice is kinda shocking, if he would only drop some of the wails and raps it wouldn't be so noticeable. But still it didn't take away from my enjoyment of my second Kiss concert after being a fan since '76. Also when I asked my son who is a casual fan, he didn't really notice the weakness in Pauls' voice, but it is definitely there.

Spider is even more impressive live, it's like a fifth member of the show for some songs.

Shannon got big applause when she went to her seat at the soundstage. Anyone know who that blond celeb guy was who got applause too?

Never noticed the spotlights on Gene when he flew back down before. Is this new?

Lots of talk from Paul about Edmonton being the first city they played outside of NY.

Arena seemed full. Everyone was really into it. One thing I noticed different from the Sonic Boom concert is the number of fans in makeup and costumes has greatly increased.

Tour book was only 20 bucks (after the last one I bought which was Paul McCartneys' for $40 that was a welcomed surprise) . Also got autographed picture of Tommy with 3 monster picks for $30 which I was happy with.

A big balloon ball was being tossed around and Paul asked for it and punched it out to the audience. Never seen that at a Kiss concert before.

Ha, no encore break...just a little rap from Paul about not doing the walk off stage thing cause they wanted to keep on playing and then right into DRC.

Loved the show, son loved the show, had a great night. Sorry for rambling, it's kinda late here.
Thanks, I'm glad you didn't get a FREE ticket. Seems like those that "claim"(LIE) to get a FREE one always hate the show and claim that no one enjoyed it. :lol:

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

Post by Just_Lee » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:49 pm

Crown Royal wrote:
Fortress wrote:Just FYI,Edmonton is a super hot market right now,the economy is booming and people here have money. Kiss has not played here since the Farewell tour (Sonic Boom tour was fucked due to the Canadian Final Rodeo) There was little doubt that Kiss would do well,deep pockets and the people are hungry for it.
:lol:

Even when KISS do well, it's not their 'fault'

So, what we know now is:

1) Edmonton has lots of money

2) KISS is in Edmonton

3) people in Edmonton have so much money, they will buy a KISS ticket just to get rid of some of that money

4) the fact they bought a KISS ticket in no way shows KISS is a popular draw, it simply shows Edmontonians have too much money

:lol:

fucking unreal

Yea....I am sure a Britny Fox reunion show would draw the same in Edmonton under those conditions..... :D

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

Post by metallian » Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:03 pm

StarvinMarvin wrote:
kissthat wrote:
StarvinMarvin wrote:
scottkfan1 wrote:yea you will here stuff like well kiss only averaged 8,000 a night on the Canadian tour there doomed..They fail to understanding the average seating capacity of the places they play on this tour will be about 8000
That's interesting (and by interesting I mean stupid). The Vancouver concert I attended had the entire upper bowl of the arena sectioned off, and even though they gave away lots of tickets the lower bowl was only about 75% full.

Kiss has traditionally been a strong market for Kiss. In 1996 I saw Kiss at the same venue, and they sold out the entire arena in less than 30 minutes. Apart from the pyro everything about that show was about 100 times better than what I saw last week in Vancouver. The reasons are too long to list. Overexposure and a lackluster product are huge factors though.

I don't think Kiss is "doomed," but there are signs that things aren't so rosy for them in North America. There have been touring way too much here - in other words, too much supply and not enough demand. Sure, they might sell out the odd show, especially if they haven't been to a particular area in a while, but overall interest in Kiss is down.

The sheep on KIssfaq may be happy with the box office stats, but I seriously doubt that Gene and Paul are. You can bet they are pissed, and probably a bit worried.
You have it backwords, of course you usually do, facts get in your way. It's not the they sell out the odd show, it's they have attendance such as they had in Vancouver(which is the odd show) and numbnuts like you run with it as fact, as if every show is like that. Then when you called out on it with real facts, you resort to the old sheep line. :lol: You're using one show's attendance to back up your agenda, don't let the facts bother you.
So, if I'm wrong, why didn't Kiss tour the US in support of Monster?
I'm attending a "Monster" show in the U.S.

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

Post by metallian » Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:14 pm

Crown Royal wrote:oh shit..also from the article:

"...The original members Ace Frehley (lead guitar) and Peter Criss (drums) aren’t in the band anymore, and if anyone complained, no one heard. The “other two guys” — Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer — were capable replacements. In fact, they’re an improvement."

8)

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That noise you heard was a sonic boom.

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

Post by Mulder » Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:41 am

metallian wrote:
StarvinMarvin wrote:
kissthat wrote:
StarvinMarvin wrote:
scottkfan1 wrote:yea you will here stuff like well kiss only averaged 8,000 a night on the Canadian tour there doomed..They fail to understanding the average seating capacity of the places they play on this tour will be about 8000
That's interesting (and by interesting I mean stupid). The Vancouver concert I attended had the entire upper bowl of the arena sectioned off, and even though they gave away lots of tickets the lower bowl was only about 75% full.

Kiss has traditionally been a strong market for Kiss. In 1996 I saw Kiss at the same venue, and they sold out the entire arena in less than 30 minutes. Apart from the pyro everything about that show was about 100 times better than what I saw last week in Vancouver. The reasons are too long to list. Overexposure and a lackluster product are huge factors though.

I don't think Kiss is "doomed," but there are signs that things aren't so rosy for them in North America. There have been touring way too much here - in other words, too much supply and not enough demand. Sure, they might sell out the odd show, especially if they haven't been to a particular area in a while, but overall interest in Kiss is down.

The sheep on KIssfaq may be happy with the box office stats, but I seriously doubt that Gene and Paul are. You can bet they are pissed, and probably a bit worried.
You have it backwords, of course you usually do, facts get in your way. It's not the they sell out the odd show, it's they have attendance such as they had in Vancouver(which is the odd show) and numbnuts like you run with it as fact, as if every show is like that. Then when you called out on it with real facts, you resort to the old sheep line. :lol: You're using one show's attendance to back up your agenda, don't let the facts bother you.
So, if I'm wrong, why didn't Kiss tour the US in support of Monster?
I'm attending a "Monster" show in the U.S.

I'm so sorry this is happening to you. My thoughts are with you at this harsh and painful time :lol:

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

Post by metallian » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:21 pm

Mulder wrote:
metallian wrote:
StarvinMarvin wrote:
kissthat wrote:
StarvinMarvin wrote:
scottkfan1 wrote:yea you will here stuff like well kiss only averaged 8,000 a night on the Canadian tour there doomed..They fail to understanding the average seating capacity of the places they play on this tour will be about 8000
That's interesting (and by interesting I mean stupid). The Vancouver concert I attended had the entire upper bowl of the arena sectioned off, and even though they gave away lots of tickets the lower bowl was only about 75% full.

Kiss has traditionally been a strong market for Kiss. In 1996 I saw Kiss at the same venue, and they sold out the entire arena in less than 30 minutes. Apart from the pyro everything about that show was about 100 times better than what I saw last week in Vancouver. The reasons are too long to list. Overexposure and a lackluster product are huge factors though.

I don't think Kiss is "doomed," but there are signs that things aren't so rosy for them in North America. There have been touring way too much here - in other words, too much supply and not enough demand. Sure, they might sell out the odd show, especially if they haven't been to a particular area in a while, but overall interest in Kiss is down.

The sheep on KIssfaq may be happy with the box office stats, but I seriously doubt that Gene and Paul are. You can bet they are pissed, and probably a bit worried.
You have it backwords, of course you usually do, facts get in your way. It's not the they sell out the odd show, it's they have attendance such as they had in Vancouver(which is the odd show) and numbnuts like you run with it as fact, as if every show is like that. Then when you called out on it with real facts, you resort to the old sheep line. :lol: You're using one show's attendance to back up your agenda, don't let the facts bother you.
So, if I'm wrong, why didn't Kiss tour the US in support of Monster?
I'm attending a "Monster" show in the U.S.

I'm so sorry this is happening to you. My thoughts are with you at this harsh and painful time :lol:
Don't worry. I'll enjoy every minute. Pete and Ace won't be there to ruin it.

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

Post by Sirscorps » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:40 pm

[quote="StarvinMarvin"][quote="kissthat"][quote="StarvinMarvin"][quote="kissthat"][quote="StarvinMarvin"][quote="scottkfan1"]yea you will here stuff like well kiss only averaged 8,000 a night on the Canadian tour there doomed..They fail to understanding the average seating capacity of the places they play on this tour will be about 8000[/quote]

That's interesting (and by interesting I mean stupid). The Vancouver concert I attended had the entire upper bowl of the arena sectioned off, and even though they gave away lots of tickets the lower bowl was only about 75% full.

Kiss has traditionally been a strong market for Kiss. In 1996 I saw Kiss at the same venue, and they sold out the entire arena in less than 30 minutes. Apart from the pyro everything about that show was about 100 times better than what I saw last week in Vancouver. The reasons are too long to list. Overexposure and a lackluster product are huge factors though.

I don't think Kiss is "doomed," but there are signs that things aren't so rosy for them in North America. There have been touring way too much here - in other words, too much supply and not enough demand. Sure, they might sell out the odd show, especially if they haven't been to a particular area in a while, but overall interest in Kiss is down.

The sheep on KIssfaq may be happy with the box office stats, but I seriously doubt that Gene and Paul are. You can bet they are pissed, and probably a bit worried.[/quote]
You have it backwords, of course you usually do, facts get in your way. It's not the they sell out the odd show, it's they have attendance such as they had in Vancouver(which is the odd show) and numbnuts like you run with it as fact, as if every show is like that. Then when you called out on it with real facts, you resort to the old sheep line. :lol: You're using one show's attendance to back up your agenda, don't let the facts bother you.[/quote]

So, if I'm wrong, why didn't Kiss tour the US in support of Monster?[/quote]
Let's see, just a guess, because I know no more about there inner workings of scheduling than you do.


Monster was held up because they deemed they didn't need it to promote the TOUR in 2012(my opinion, a bad move, but that would have been just because I wanted they album sooner. No One from the KISS Co asked my opinion).
Since Monter's release,in they've toured South America, Australia,Europe, Canada(isn't this the most Candian dates they ever played ?) and soon Japan(pretty full 2013 schedule for an aging band,don't forget the Kruise), though [b][color=#BF0000]haters point out the only country they didn't hit during that year).[/color][/b]
My guess, and it's just a guess, you'll see a full on US Tour in 2014(along with return trips to Europe/South America/Australia). When/if we don't then those like you can claim , they're doomed.[/quote]

Fairly significant that they're avoiding their biggest market, no?[/quote]


Maybe, but there might have been more money to be made elsewhere. Scheduling also comes into play.

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

Post by kissthat » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:47 pm

Busy year, but the usual suspects are looking for something wrong.

February
28 Perth - Perth Arena
March
03 Clipsal 500 V8 Supercar, Adelaide, Australia
05 Melbourne - Etihad Stadium
06 Melbourne - Etihad Stadium
09 Sydney - All Phones Arena
10 Sydney - All Phones Arena
12 Brisbane - Brisbane Entertainment Centre
16 Mackay- Virgin Australia Stadium
June
01 Friends Arena Stadium, Stockholm, Sweden
03 Hartwell Arena, Helsinki, Finland
06 Sweden Rock Festival, Solveborg, Sweden
08 Viking Fest, Stavenger, Norway
11 Forum, Copenhagen, Denmark
12 Waldbuhne, Berlin, Germany
14 O2 Arena, Prague
15 Nova Rock Festival, Nickelsdorf, Austria
17 Villa Manin, Codroipo (UD), Italy
18 Mediolanum Forum, Milano, Italy
20 Hallenstadion, Zurich, Switzerland
22 Hellfest, Clisson, France
July
5 - Save On Foods Memorial Center (Victoria, BC)
6 - Pepsi Live at Rogers Arena (Vancouver, BC)
8 - Prospera Place (Kelowna, BC)
10 - Enmax Centre (Lethbridge, AB)
12 - Rexall Place (Edmonton, AB)
13 - Scotiabank Saddledome (Calgary, AB)
14 - Credit Union Centre (Saskatoon, SK)
16 - Evraz Place (Regina, SK)
17 - Keystone Centre (Brandon, MB)
18 - MTS Centre (Winnipeg, MB)
20 - Rock Fest, Cadott, Wisonsin (USA)
23 - Sudbury Arena (Sudbury, ON)
25 - Scotiabank Place (Ottawa, ON)
26 - Molson Canadian Amphitheatre (Toronto, ON)
27 - Budweiser Gardens (London, ON)
29 - Bell Centre (Montreal, QC)
31 - Harbour Station (Saint John, NB)
August
1 - Metro Centre (Halifax, NS)
3 - Mile One Stadium (St. John's, NFLD)
4 - Mile One Stadium (St. John's, NFLD)
7 - Meadowbrook Amphitheater, Gilford, New Hampshire
9 - Turning Stone Casino, Verona, NY
10 - Mohegan Sun - Uncasville, CT
12 - nTelos Wireless Pavilion - Portsmouth, VA
13 - Amphitheatre at Heritage Park, Simpsonville, Carolina
16 - ArenaBowl XXVI, Orlando, Florida
18 - Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Hollywood, CA

October
19 - Tokyo, Japan
21 - Osaka, Japan
23 - Budokan, Japan
24 - Budokan, Japan

28- The KISS Kruise III (returning November 1st)

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Re: N.American Monster #5 - Edmonton, 7/12/13

Post by Beauvoir » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:33 pm

[quote="StarvinMarvin"]Kiss has traditionally been a strong market for Kiss.[/quote]

Okay....

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