"...The original members Ace Frehley (lead guitar) and Peter Criss (drums) aren’t in the band anymore, and if anyone complained, no one heard. The “other two guys” — Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer — were capable replacements. In fact, they’re an improvement."
scottkfan1 wrote:yea you will here stuff like well kiss only averaged 8,000 a night on the Canadian tour there doomed..They fail to understanding the average seating capacity of the places they play on this tour will be about 8000
That's interesting (and by interesting I mean stupid). The Vancouver concert I attended had the entire upper bowl of the arena sectioned off, and even though they gave away lots of tickets the lower bowl was only about 75% full.
Kiss has traditionally been a strong market for Kiss. In 1996 I saw Kiss at the same venue, and they sold out the entire arena in less than 30 minutes. Apart from the pyro everything about that show was about 100 times better than what I saw last week in Vancouver. The reasons are too long to list. Overexposure and a lackluster product are huge factors though.
I don't think Kiss is "doomed," but there are signs that things aren't so rosy for them in North America. There have been touring way too much here - in other words, too much supply and not enough demand. Sure, they might sell out the odd show, especially if they haven't been to a particular area in a while, but overall interest in Kiss is down.
The sheep on KIssfaq may be happy with the box office stats, but I seriously doubt that Gene and Paul are. You can bet they are pissed, and probably a bit worried.
You have it backwords, of course you usually do, facts get in your way. It's not the they sell out the odd show, it's they have attendance such as they had in Vancouver(which is the odd show) and numbnuts like you run with it as fact, as if every show is like that. Then when you called out on it with real facts, you resort to the old sheep line. You're using one show's attendance to back up your agenda, don't let the facts bother you.
So, if I'm wrong, why didn't Kiss tour the US in support of Monster?
I'm attending a "Monster" show in the U.S.
I'm so sorry this is happening to you. My thoughts are with you at this harsh and painful time
scottkfan1 wrote:yea you will here stuff like well kiss only averaged 8,000 a night on the Canadian tour there doomed..They fail to understanding the average seating capacity of the places they play on this tour will be about 8000
That's interesting (and by interesting I mean stupid). The Vancouver concert I attended had the entire upper bowl of the arena sectioned off, and even though they gave away lots of tickets the lower bowl was only about 75% full.
Kiss has traditionally been a strong market for Kiss. In 1996 I saw Kiss at the same venue, and they sold out the entire arena in less than 30 minutes. Apart from the pyro everything about that show was about 100 times better than what I saw last week in Vancouver. The reasons are too long to list. Overexposure and a lackluster product are huge factors though.
I don't think Kiss is "doomed," but there are signs that things aren't so rosy for them in North America. There have been touring way too much here - in other words, too much supply and not enough demand. Sure, they might sell out the odd show, especially if they haven't been to a particular area in a while, but overall interest in Kiss is down.
The sheep on KIssfaq may be happy with the box office stats, but I seriously doubt that Gene and Paul are. You can bet they are pissed, and probably a bit worried.
You have it backwords, of course you usually do, facts get in your way. It's not the they sell out the odd show, it's they have attendance such as they had in Vancouver(which is the odd show) and numbnuts like you run with it as fact, as if every show is like that. Then when you called out on it with real facts, you resort to the old sheep line. You're using one show's attendance to back up your agenda, don't let the facts bother you.
So, if I'm wrong, why didn't Kiss tour the US in support of Monster?
I'm attending a "Monster" show in the U.S.
I'm so sorry this is happening to you. My thoughts are with you at this harsh and painful time
Don't worry. I'll enjoy every minute. Pete and Ace won't be there to ruin it.
[quote="StarvinMarvin"][quote="kissthat"][quote="StarvinMarvin"][quote="kissthat"][quote="StarvinMarvin"][quote="scottkfan1"]yea you will here stuff like well kiss only averaged 8,000 a night on the Canadian tour there doomed..They fail to understanding the average seating capacity of the places they play on this tour will be about 8000[/quote]
That's interesting (and by interesting I mean stupid). The Vancouver concert I attended had the entire upper bowl of the arena sectioned off, and even though they gave away lots of tickets the lower bowl was only about 75% full.
Kiss has traditionally been a strong market for Kiss. In 1996 I saw Kiss at the same venue, and they sold out the entire arena in less than 30 minutes. Apart from the pyro everything about that show was about 100 times better than what I saw last week in Vancouver. The reasons are too long to list. Overexposure and a lackluster product are huge factors though.
I don't think Kiss is "doomed," but there are signs that things aren't so rosy for them in North America. There have been touring way too much here - in other words, too much supply and not enough demand. Sure, they might sell out the odd show, especially if they haven't been to a particular area in a while, but overall interest in Kiss is down.
The sheep on KIssfaq may be happy with the box office stats, but I seriously doubt that Gene and Paul are. You can bet they are pissed, and probably a bit worried.[/quote]
You have it backwords, of course you usually do, facts get in your way. It's not the they sell out the odd show, it's they have attendance such as they had in Vancouver(which is the odd show) and numbnuts like you run with it as fact, as if every show is like that. Then when you called out on it with real facts, you resort to the old sheep line. :lol: You're using one show's attendance to back up your agenda, don't let the facts bother you.[/quote]
So, if I'm wrong, why didn't Kiss tour the US in support of Monster?[/quote]
Let's see, just a guess, because I know no more about there inner workings of scheduling than you do.
Monster was held up because they deemed they didn't need it to promote the TOUR in 2012(my opinion, a bad move, but that would have been just because I wanted they album sooner. No One from the KISS Co asked my opinion).
Since Monter's release,in they've toured South America, Australia,Europe, Canada(isn't this the most Candian dates they ever played ?) and soon Japan(pretty full 2013 schedule for an aging band,don't forget the Kruise), though [b][color=#BF0000]haters point out the only country they didn't hit during that year).[/color][/b]
My guess, and it's just a guess, you'll see a full on US Tour in 2014(along with return trips to Europe/South America/Australia). When/if we don't then those like you can claim , they're doomed.[/quote]
Fairly significant that they're avoiding their biggest market, no?[/quote]
Maybe, but there might have been more money to be made elsewhere. Scheduling also comes into play.