EuroMonster #6, 12/06 - Waldbuhne, Berlin, Germany

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scottkfan1 · Post by **scottkfan1** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:44 pm

kiss is doomed again how can they go on like this

kissthat · Post by **kissthat** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:48 pm

scottkfan1 wrote:kiss is doomed again how can they go on like this

Wiki says this place seats more than 22,000. KISS FB says Sold Out crowd.

Doomed, I tell you, DOOMED.

Spirited · Post by **Spirited** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:30 pm

scottkfan1 wrote:kiss is doomed again how can they go on like this

Where is the spider?

scottkfan1 · Post by **scottkfan1** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:48 pm

he ran away..ticket sales were so soft they left him home.

in berlin the place they play is a big tent like structure I don't know if they can hang the spider with the weight

kissthat · Post by **kissthat** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:50 pm

scottkfan1 wrote:he ran away..ticket sales were so soft they left him home. in berlin the place they play is a big tent like structure I don't know if they can hang the spider with the weight

Spirited · Post by **Spirited** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:03 pm

kissthat wrote:
scottkfan1 wrote:he ran away..ticket sales were so soft they left him home. in berlin the place they play is a big tent like structure I don't know if they can hang the spider with the weight

Cool they played a camp ground.

Anomaly · Post by **Anomaly** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:22 pm

Kumbaya motherfucker.

Post by **Trance** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:43 pm

Is the spider done?

Too expensive?

BlairC42 · Post by **BlairC42** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:55 pm

Spidey was there just saw a pic of it

kissthat · Post by **kissthat** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:00 pm

BlairC42 wrote:Spidey was there just saw a pic of it

BlairC42 · Post by **BlairC42** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:05 pm

kissthat wrote:
BlairC42 wrote:Spidey was there just saw a pic of it

Thanks

ace's yamaka · Post by **ace's yamaka** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:11 pm

See that's the Tick, not the Spider.

In other news, volleyball in the pit between acts.

rockstar718 · Post by **rockstar718** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:17 pm

The Psycho Circus... Under The Big Top...lol.

KISSTRONAUT · Post by **KISSTRONAUT** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:35 pm

Anomaly wrote:Kumbaya motherfucker.

Okay, now play Hokey Pokey.

KISSTRONAUT · Post by **KISSTRONAUT** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:38 pm

Spirited wrote:
kissthat wrote:
scottkfan1 wrote:he ran away..ticket sales were so soft they left him home. in berlin the place they play is a big tent like structure I don't know if they can hang the spider with the weight

Cool they played a camp ground.

A campground that holds 22,000. Man, where did you grow up?

kissthat · Post by **kissthat** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:41 pm

KISSTRONAUT wrote:
Spirited wrote:
kissthat wrote:
scottkfan1 wrote:he ran away..ticket sales were so soft they left him home. in berlin the place they play is a big tent like structure I don't know if they can hang the spider with the weight

Cool they played a camp ground.

A campground that holds 22,000. Man, where did you grow up?

The Stones, Stewart, Metallica and Barbra Streisand have all played that historical venue.

Spirited · Post by **Spirited** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:43 pm

Well we all know Kiss can draw 80,000 + in Germany without any festival, so this show is a relative flop.

BlairC42 · Post by **BlairC42** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:08 pm

Here is Deuce from the show

thegraveyardtramp · Post by **thegraveyardtramp** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:27 pm

Just looks so strange and wrong seeing KISS open a concert during daylight....I guess they (and/or the audience) are unable to stay up as late as they once could?

Shane_Penney · Post by **Shane_Penney** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:47 pm

Spirited wrote:Well we all know Kiss can draw 80,000 + in Germany without any festival, so this show is a relative flop.

Since they're Europeans, I guess all 22,000 were expecting that Ace was playing, since they don't know any better.

Shane_Penney · Post by **Shane_Penney** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:52 pm

The venue looks cool. I'd like to see a show there. I was in Berlin in April. Great city.

Spirited · Post by **Spirited** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:54 pm

Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:Well we all know Kiss can draw 80,000 + in Germany without any festival, so this show is a relative flop.
Since they're Europeans, I guess all 22,000 were expecting that Ace was playing, since they don't know any better.

Wow, you think Europeans are dumb?

I am going to London and Paris in July. I hope they are smart enough to keep up with me since you are telling me they are not too bright.

Philly Cheese · Post by **Philly Cheese** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:58 pm

Spirited wrote:
Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:Well we all know Kiss can draw 80,000 + in Germany without any festival, so this show is a relative flop.
Since they're Europeans, I guess all 22,000 were expecting that Ace was playing, since they don't know any better.

Wow, you think Europeans are dumb?

I am going to London and Paris in July. I hope they are smart enough to keep up with me since you are telling me they are not too bright.

They could be morons, and they'd be ahead of you, sunshine.

Spirited · Post by **Spirited** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:07 pm

Philly Cheese wrote:
Spirited wrote:
Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:Well we all know Kiss can draw 80,000 + in Germany without any festival, so this show is a relative flop.
Since they're Europeans, I guess all 22,000 were expecting that Ace was playing, since they don't know any better.

Wow, you think Europeans are dumb?

I am going to London and Paris in July. I hope they are smart enough to keep up with me since you are telling me they are not too bright.
They could be morons, and they'd be ahead of you, sunshine.

Oh, how personal of you. Such anger over a rock band. Shameful.

Shane_Penney · Post by **Shane_Penney** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:07 pm

Spirited wrote:
Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:Well we all know Kiss can draw 80,000 + in Germany without any festival, so this show is a relative flop.
Since they're Europeans, I guess all 22,000 were expecting that Ace was playing, since they don't know any better.

Wow, you think Europeans are dumb?

I am going to London and Paris in July. I hope they are smart enough to keep up with me since you are telling me they are not too bright.

I just came back from France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany and Poland. I've now been to 11 European countries if you include England, Austria, The Czech Republic, Switzerland, Italy and Vatican City from 2008.

Amazingly, the people that I met all seem to be able to understand a joke.

Why can't Nova Scotians?

scottkfan1 · Post by **scottkfan1** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:07 pm

Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:Well we all know Kiss can draw 80,000 + in Germany without any festival, so this show is a relative flop.
Since they're Europeans, I guess all 22,000 were expecting that Ace was playing, since they don't know any better.

well they were there protesting ace not being there and pauls voice issue the fans were about to riot

Spirited · Post by **Spirited** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:08 pm

Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:
Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:Well we all know Kiss can draw 80,000 + in Germany without any festival, so this show is a relative flop.
Since they're Europeans, I guess all 22,000 were expecting that Ace was playing, since they don't know any better.

Wow, you think Europeans are dumb?

I am going to London and Paris in July. I hope they are smart enough to keep up with me since you are telling me they are not too bright.
I just came back from France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany and Poland. I've now been to 11 European countries if you include England, Austria, The Czech Republic, Switzerland, Italy and Vatican City from 2008.

Amazingly, the people that I met all seem to be able to understand a joke.

Why can't Nova Scotians?

If you thought I was serious, I guess Newfoundlanders can't take one either.

Shane_Penney · Post by **Shane_Penney** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:10 pm

Spirited wrote:
Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:
Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:Well we all know Kiss can draw 80,000 + in Germany without any festival, so this show is a relative flop.
Since they're Europeans, I guess all 22,000 were expecting that Ace was playing, since they don't know any better.

Wow, you think Europeans are dumb?

I am going to London and Paris in July. I hope they are smart enough to keep up with me since you are telling me they are not too bright.
I just came back from France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany and Poland. I've now been to 11 European countries if you include England, Austria, The Czech Republic, Switzerland, Italy and Vatican City from 2008.

Amazingly, the people that I met all seem to be able to understand a joke.

Why can't Nova Scotians?
If you thought I was serious, I guess Newfoundlanders can't take one either.

Thr fact that you think that you had to explain that suggests that I'm still in the lead.

Spirited · Post by **Spirited** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:12 pm

Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:
Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:
Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:Well we all know Kiss can draw 80,000 + in Germany without any festival, so this show is a relative flop.
Since they're Europeans, I guess all 22,000 were expecting that Ace was playing, since they don't know any better.

Wow, you think Europeans are dumb?

I am going to London and Paris in July. I hope they are smart enough to keep up with me since you are telling me they are not too bright.
I just came back from France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany and Poland. I've now been to 11 European countries if you include England, Austria, The Czech Republic, Switzerland, Italy and Vatican City from 2008.

Amazingly, the people that I met all seem to be able to understand a joke.

Why can't Nova Scotians?
If you thought I was serious, I guess Newfoundlanders can't take one either.
Thr fact that you think that you had to explain that suggests that I'm still in the lead.

Newfies are never in the lead.

Shane_Penney · Post by **Shane_Penney** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:13 pm

Spirited wrote:
Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:
Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:
Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:Well we all know Kiss can draw 80,000 + in Germany without any festival, so this show is a relative flop.
Since they're Europeans, I guess all 22,000 were expecting that Ace was playing, since they don't know any better.

Wow, you think Europeans are dumb?

I am going to London and Paris in July. I hope they are smart enough to keep up with me since you are telling me they are not too bright.
I just came back from France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany and Poland. I've now been to 11 European countries if you include England, Austria, The Czech Republic, Switzerland, Italy and Vatican City from 2008.

Amazingly, the people that I met all seem to be able to understand a joke.

Why can't Nova Scotians?
If you thought I was serious, I guess Newfoundlanders can't take one either.
Thr fact that you think that you had to explain that suggests that I'm still in the lead.
Newfies are never in the lead.

We're 30 minutes ahead of you.

Spirited · Post by **Spirited** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:14 pm

Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:
Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:
Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:
Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:Well we all know Kiss can draw 80,000 + in Germany without any festival, so this show is a relative flop.
Since they're Europeans, I guess all 22,000 were expecting that Ace was playing, since they don't know any better.

Wow, you think Europeans are dumb?

I am going to London and Paris in July. I hope they are smart enough to keep up with me since you are telling me they are not too bright.
I just came back from France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany and Poland. I've now been to 11 European countries if you include England, Austria, The Czech Republic, Switzerland, Italy and Vatican City from 2008.

Amazingly, the people that I met all seem to be able to understand a joke.

Why can't Nova Scotians?
If you thought I was serious, I guess Newfoundlanders can't take one either.
Thr fact that you think that you had to explain that suggests that I'm still in the lead.
Newfies are never in the lead.

We're 30 minutes ahead of you.

That was the only thing I could think of too.

Shane_Penney · Post by **Shane_Penney** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:15 pm

Disappointing about Spidey for the past few shows. I hope it gets straightened out.

I'm looking forward to seeing a decent video of it when it actually works.

metallian · Post by **metallian** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:09 pm

Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:
Shane_Penney wrote:
Spirited wrote:Well we all know Kiss can draw 80,000 + in Germany without any festival, so this show is a relative flop.
Since they're Europeans, I guess all 22,000 were expecting that Ace was playing, since they don't know any better.

Wow, you think Europeans are dumb?

I am going to London and Paris in July. I hope they are smart enough to keep up with me since you are telling me they are not too bright.
I just came back from France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany and Poland. I've now been to 11 European countries if you include England, Austria, The Czech Republic, Switzerland, Italy and Vatican City from 2008.

Amazingly, the people that I met all seem to be able to understand a joke.

Why can't Nova Scotians?

Cold = shrinkage

Strutter_69 · Post by **Strutter_69** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:07 pm

In our local newspapers it is mentioned that ist was not a sellout. 16000 (the place holds 22000) were there...quit positive review from what I read this morning.

jannep17 · Post by **jannep17** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:35 pm

Paul made s'mores to everyone after the show and then Gene told a ghost story about the evil Ace and Pete.

SureKnowSomething · Post by **SureKnowSomething** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:04 am

ace's yamaka wrote:See that's the Tick, not the Spider.

If you look at some of the other videos, it's the rear half of the spider with 6 legs.

Surprisingly, I prefer the look of this setup over the larger configuration.

Odd but, the stage actually looks better balanced and filled out. It doesn't come off looking bare or sparse like the larger configuration.

Ratmir · Post by **Ratmir** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:06 am

Just got back from the show (had a horrible jurney back to Prague from Berlin). A very fun whow, great crowd, not sure if it was technically a sell out but the arena was completely full. the stage is smaill in this venue and the ceiling is low. Paul and Gene did not fly and the spider was just a lightning rig, didnt do anything. It seems like they tried to fit something till the last moment, there was even a small stage inthe center of the venue, maybe for Paul, but no flying. The band made it up by energy though, it was one of the most fun shows I've been to. Musically I expected less, the band was tight.
p.s. Gene screwd up both verses of War Machine, Paul completely lost during the acoustic segment of Say Yeah.

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:37 am

Hey Admin...just wondering. What info are you using to set the attendance in the tour date archives? I see you put ~16,000 there when the Berlin metropolitan area newspaper, Berliner Kurier has attendance down as 22,000? I try to research attendance personally for all shows. If there's no boxscore I go to a composite of local newspapers. If you have a site that's more accurate I'd love to know for my records.

starchild007 · Post by **starchild007** » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:39 am

Great show in Berlin. Crowd was going wild! Paul sounded good. Very happy to have seen them.
Well there were 22.000 for sure.

kissthat · Post by **kissthat** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:39 am

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