Aussie Monster #6: Sydney, 3/10/13

Post by **Admin** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:51 am

Discussions, reviews, live-updates, meet-ups, etc!

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Details:
http://www.kissfaq.com/tourdates/2013/2013-0310.php

Set list:
Detroit Rock City
Shout It Out Loud
Deuce
Hotter than Hell
Crazy Crazy Nights
Calling Dr. Love
Shock Me
Psycho Circus
I Love It Loud
Hell Or Hallelujah
War Machine
Love Gun
Rock and Roll All Nite
Lick It Up
Black Diamond

Set stats:
http://www.kissfaq.com/tourdates/2013/stats_2013.php

KissCruehead · Post by **KissCruehead** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:10 am

From Facebook uploads - Vince was taken to the hospital, Crue cut their set.

steveh67 · Post by **steveh67** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:12 am

KissCruehead wrote:From Facebook uploads - Vince was taken to the hospital, Crue cut their set.

Crap, hope he is okay!

I assume smaller crowd tonight?

Sam T Serpent · Post by **Sam T Serpent** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:00 am

Hotter Than Hell and Shock Me was played.

oompa loompa · Post by **oompa loompa** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:06 am

facebook comments wrote:
***Motley Crue & Kiss 2013 Australian Tour -

Thinking of Vince who went straight to hospital tonight with kidney stones!

##Shaye -

They were playing Live Wire & Vince left the stage. Then they did the pyro they usually leave til Kickstart & Nikki came back to the mic & told everyone Vince didn't want to cancel the show earlier today but now he had to leave because he was in too much pain & was on the way to hospital. They had four songs left.
Nikki promised they would be back (and that they would play four extra songs next time) and they left the stage. That was pretty much it..

theincrediblehull · Post by **theincrediblehull** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:36 am

Kiss just left the stage.

Set List:
1 Detroit Rock City
2 Shout it out loud
3 Deuce
4 Hotter than Hell/ Gene breathing fire
5 Crazy Crazy Nights
6 Dr. Love
7 Shock Me with Tommy Solo
8 Psyco Circus
9 I Love It Loud
10 Hell Or Hallelujia
11 War Machine with risers
12 Paul flies....Love Gun
13 Rock and Roll All Night

Encores:
14 Tie me Kangaroo down sport/ Lick It Up / Wont Be Fooled Again
15 Black Diamond with Stairway To Heaven hook

NIGHTTHING · Post by **NIGHTTHING** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:40 am

Still fine-tuning the setlist, I see.

bluedog · Post by **bluedog** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:41 am

For those wondering about 'Tie Me Kangaroo Sport', check out:

djh · Post by **djh** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:42 am

I see they are playing less songs from monster.

Anomaly · Post by **Anomaly** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:02 am

Oh c'mon, now they're down to just Hell or Hallelujah? What do they gain from Shock Me over Outta This World in the set?

db99 · Post by **db99** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:55 am

Anomaly wrote:Oh c'mon, now they're down to just Hell or Hallelujah? What do they gain from Shock Me over Outta This World in the set?

Agreed. It is good to see them changing the set list up, but on the Monster Tour there needs to be more Monster songs played.

bigdaddyb · Post by **bigdaddyb** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:13 am

Anomaly wrote:Oh c'mon, now they're down to just Hell or Hallelujah? What do they gain from Shock Me over Outta This World in the set?

This
esp. since Out Of This World is a way better song than Hell Or Crapelujah ..Paul's ego strikes again!

gshaller · Post by **gshaller** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:47 am

Anomaly wrote:Oh c'mon, now they're down to just Hell or Hallelujah? What do they gain from Shock Me over Outta This World in the set?

+1

strangeways747 · Post by **strangeways747** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:35 am

db99 wrote:It is good to see them changing the set list up, but on the Monster Tour there needs to be more Monster songs played.

Indeed.

They should be playing at least 4 songs from Monster.

My picks would be

Hell or Halleluiah
Wall of Sound
All In the Name of Rock n Roll
Outta This World

heart_of_chrome · Post by **heart_of_chrome** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:38 am

gshaller wrote:
Anomaly wrote:Oh c'mon, now they're down to just Hell or Hallelujah? What do they gain from Shock Me over Outta This World in the set?
+1

+2

kissthat · Post by **kissthat** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:38 am

Shouldn't they have played longer ? This was the night that Vince had to leave early because of kidney stones ? Crue's show was cut short, so KISS had a little extra time.As the headliner, they should have been adding songs , not cutting them.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/motley-c ... -hospital/

heart_of_chrome · Post by **heart_of_chrome** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:38 am

strangeways747 wrote:
db99 wrote:It is good to see them changing the set list up, but on the Monster Tour there needs to be more Monster songs played.
Indeed.

They should be playing at least 4 songs from Monster.

My picks would be

Hell or Halleluiah
Wall of Sound
All In the Name of Rock n Roll
Outta This World

Yup, having a new song for every member would be cool. I'd take Shout Mercy over Hell or Hallelujah but that's just me.

AstroWarped · Post by **AstroWarped** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:01 pm

Oh Good Grief!

This is the lamest Kiss Set-List yet ever!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is only the sort of set-list to use when you have no new material out & you're playing some Summer Festival with 20 other bands!!!!!

This is the Monster Tour, Play the Monster stuff, even if you, at the very least, use One Slot to rotate the Entire Monster Album's songs in, Please do so!!!!!!

If this were the Beatles, they would be playing only the stuff from '63-'66 & only one tune off "Let It Be"!!!!

The Man · Post by **The Man** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:01 pm

They Need to add all for the love of rock n roll back to the set ... and nothing to lose ... Have Eric on the mic as much as possible.

Spirited · Post by **Spirited** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:41 pm

Too many piss breaks during Thayer's song I guess.

scotty971 · Post by **scotty971** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:48 pm

I have to agree. This set list is totally lame and they are just mailing it in for a paycheck. I cannot beleive they played "Shock Me" and dropped all Monster songs except HOH. Horrible.

mikeenc · Post by **mikeenc** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:57 pm

Since it was the second night maybe they changed it just because they knew a lot of the same people would go??

kissthat · Post by **kissthat** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:00 pm

mikeenc wrote:Since it was the second night maybe they changed it just because they knew a lot of the same people would go??

I'm "just guessing" that could have been the case with Shock Me. It's just with MC's set cut to 9 songs because of Vince being in pain(kidney stones),KISS should have been ADDING a couple of songs to the set at this show.

Post by **Admin** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:04 pm

kissthat wrote:
mikeenc wrote:It's just with MC's set cut to 9 songs because of Vince being in pain(kidney stones),KISS should have been ADDING a couple of songs to the set at this show.

Kiss' show is too highly choreographed for them to just go adding songs at short notice.

mamado · Post by **mamado** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:48 pm

Anomaly wrote:Oh c'mon, now they're down to just Hell or Hallelujah?

No need to worry... They'll drop it soon. 'No Monster Tour 2013'.

KissCruehead · Post by **KissCruehead** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:16 pm

heart_of_chrome wrote:I'd take Shout Mercy over Hell or Hallelujah but that's just me.

I'd love to... But I don't think Paul could handle it

steveh67 · Post by **steveh67** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:23 pm

Sam T Serpent wrote:Hotter Than Hell and Shock Me was played.

Fark, glad I wasn't there to see Thayer play Shock Me.

Clearly IWMFLY and Shandi are gone from the setlist for good, unless they play Shandi in Mackay as the tribute to the young lady killed.

steveh67 · Post by **steveh67** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:26 pm

mikeenc wrote:Since it was the second night maybe they changed it just because they knew a lot of the same people would go??

Based on the crowd reaction from Night 1 on Saturday, I doubt that very much.

heart_of_chrome · Post by **heart_of_chrome** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:44 pm

steveh67 wrote:
mikeenc wrote:Since it was the second night maybe they changed it just because they knew a lot of the same people would go??
Based on the crowd reaction from Night 1 on Saturday, I doubt that very much.

So why did they drop Firehouse? Crowd reaction?

Evo999 · Post by **Evo999** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:59 pm

It's A shame that Paul has such little patience for new tunes. The Monster tour has one song from Monster, and Tommy seeing Shock Me again? Sad.

Shane_Penney · Post by **Shane_Penney** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:45 pm

KissCruehead wrote:
heart_of_chrome wrote:I'd take Shout Mercy over Hell or Hallelujah but that's just me.
I'd love to... But I don't think Paul could handle it

I'd like to hear Paul and Eric try it.

Shane_Penney · Post by **Shane_Penney** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:47 pm

Evo999 wrote:It's A shame that Paul has such little patience for new tunes. The Monster tour has one song from Monster, and Tommy seeing Shock Me again? Sad.

There are a few reasons why Shock Me is a bummer live now

1) It's overplayed, and overrated. It's good....but come on...
2) I'd rather hear another Thayer song.

Anomaly · Post by **Anomaly** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:30 pm

db99 wrote:
Anomaly wrote:Oh c'mon, now they're down to just Hell or Hallelujah? What do they gain from Shock Me over Outta This World in the set?
Agreed. It is good to see them changing the set list up, but on the Monster Tour there needs to be more Monster songs played.

I say just rename the tour to the 40th Anniversary Tour, if you're on the 'Monster Tour' and you're not playing anything off the record you're supposed to be promoting then just rename the tour. No shame in that. Surprised Deuce wasn't cycled out with another rotating song, I don't wish it to be but I'm thinking this is going to be the setlist from here on out in Australia.

kissthat wrote:Shouldn't they have played longer ? This was the night that Vince had to leave early because of kidney stones ? Crue's show was cut short, so KISS had a little extra time.As the headliner, they should have been adding songs , not cutting them.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/motley-c ... -hospital/

Wonder if Vince will be back in action in Brisbane? If Crue don't go on to finish this tour KISS should re-add Christine Sixteen, Wall of Sound, Shandi, and I Was Made For Loving You. I'm still dumbfounded how their two biggest hits in Australia are not seeing any set time, it's ridiculous.

Shane_Penney wrote:
Evo999 wrote:It's A shame that Paul has such little patience for new tunes. The Monster tour has one song from Monster, and Tommy seeing Shock Me again? Sad.
There are a few reasons why Shock Me is a bummer live now

1) It's overplayed, and overrated. It's good....but come on...
2) I'd rather hear another Thayer song.

I'll add a third reason...

3) The crowd doesn't react to it, if you're going to drop Tommy's song give him something new like 2000 Man or Talk To Me.

Also, reading theincrediblehull's post it says with War Machine there were risers. Something new during the show?

Deleted User 32 · Post by **Deleted User 32** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:37 pm

If anyone cares to look at some facts about this Australian tour, they'll see that the setlist has rotated every night with the exception of Melbourne night 2 and Sydney night 1.

I believe the second Sydney show was the first time in a long time that two different songs were played. Personally, being at both those shows, I loved it. I got to hear more Kiss songs.

I think we should probably wait and see what they play on the next two shows before making suggestion that this is the ultimate setlist.

nightflight77 · Post by **nightflight77** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:57 pm

The tour book does have : 40 years logo on it. They could very easily transition into the 40th Anniversary tour from this and not have to change the Tour Books or other Merch.

nightflight77 · Post by **nightflight77** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:59 pm

firekiss wrote:If anyone cares to look at some facts about this Australian tour, they'll see that the setlist has rotated every night with the exception of Melbourne night 2 and Sydney night 1.

I believe the second Sydney show was the first time in a long time that two different songs were played. Personally, being at both those shows, I loved it. I got to hear more Kiss songs.

I think we should probably wait and see what they play on the next two shows before making suggestion that this is the ultimate setlist.

I agree. If they keep the song count down to what it was for the Asylum tour then I think they might just be trying out new songs that work better for pacing / timing / crowd reaction.

Post by **Admin** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:00 pm

firekiss wrote:If anyone cares to look at some facts about this Australian tour, they'll see that the setlist has rotated every night with the exception of Melbourne night 2 and Sydney night 1.

I believe the second Sydney show was the first time in a long time that two different songs were played. Personally, being at both those shows, I loved it. I got to hear more Kiss songs.

I think we should probably wait and see what they play on the next two shows before making suggestion that this is the ultimate setlist.

There's truth in that... And that they've decreased from 3 to 1 "Monster" song within the timeframe of the tour. However, we're not there and at the shows and as long as those who do go are having fun then that's what matters. However, they're not dragging any lost classics back into the set.

Deleted User 32 · Post by **Deleted User 32** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:03 pm

For anyone wondering where Vince ended up.

gshaller · Post by **gshaller** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:21 pm

Admin wrote:
firekiss wrote:If anyone cares to look at some facts about this Australian tour, they'll see that the setlist has rotated every night with the exception of Melbourne night 2 and Sydney night 1.

I believe the second Sydney show was the first time in a long time that two different songs were played. Personally, being at both those shows, I loved it. I got to hear more Kiss songs.

I think we should probably wait and see what they play on the next two shows before making suggestion that this is the ultimate setlist.
There's truth in that... And that they've decreased from 3 to 1 "Monster" song within the timeframe of the tour. However, we're not there and at the shows and as long as those who do go are having fun then that's what matters. However, they're not dragging any lost classics back into the set.

Two solid, sensible posts here.

steveh67 · Post by **steveh67** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:23 pm

firekiss wrote:For anyone wondering where Vince ended up.

Cool, thanks for sharing Scott.

Vince doesn't wear a wig obviously.

shupey · Post by **shupey** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:45 pm

Two things:

1. I like that they are shaking up the set list almost nightly.

2. They need to do a better job of picking songs to shake up the set list with (I know KISS fans are never happy)

oompa loompa · Post by **oompa loompa** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:15 pm

Nikki just tweeted
Nikki Sixx @NikkiSixx

Vince Neil is in surgery right now.He's a true warrior. I'm gonna write a full update on Facebook. Been texting with Vince all night

https://www.facebook.com/MotleyCrue?ref=stream

Hey guys, I just woke here in Sydney. As many have heard we had to cut our set short by 4 songs last night due to Vince be in severe pain on stage.. He was doubled over on his dressing room floor 5 minutes till show time and was told by the promoter to not even play but Vince said he couldn’t do that to the fans. I’ve seen Vinnie go onstage with broken bones, his voice completely blown out and torn ligaments but he never ever cancels…Just like an athlete you sometimes have to play through the pain but last night it became to excruciating.
I was texting with Vince most of the night last night as he was just waiting for the doctor to come back with the test results. This morning we found out he had to be admitted into surgery to remove kidney stones. He Just got out 5 minutes ago and the doctors said everything went well in the operating room. I am going to the hospital to see him before I head to Brisbane. Will update you more later…Nikki

AstroWarped · Post by **AstroWarped** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:56 pm

So Vince wimped out & had the surgery?

Capt. Kirk (Will Shatner) was Man enough to (Painfully), Piss his stones out (Ultrasound break-up) then Ebay the kidney Stones!!

Vince i'm just ribbing you dude!

firekiss wrote:For anyone wondering where Vince ended up.

nightflight77 · Post by **nightflight77** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:59 pm

oompa loompa wrote:
Nikki just tweeted
Nikki Sixx @NikkiSixx

Vince Neil is in surgery right now.He's a true warrior. I'm gonna write a full update on Facebook. Been texting with Vince all night

https://www.facebook.com/MotleyCrue?ref=stream

Hey guys, I just woke here in Sydney. As many have heard we had to cut our set short by 4 songs last night due to Vince be in severe pain on stage.. He was doubled over on his dressing room floor 5 minutes till show time and was told by the promoter to not even play but Vince said he couldn’t do that to the fans. I’ve seen Vinnie go onstage with broken bones, his voice completely blown out and torn ligaments but he never ever cancels…Just like an athlete you sometimes have to play through the pain but last night it became to excruciating.
I was texting with Vince most of the night last night as he was just waiting for the doctor to come back with the test results. This morning we found out he had to be admitted into surgery to remove kidney stones. He Just got out 5 minutes ago and the doctors said everything went well in the operating room. I am going to the hospital to see him before I head to Brisbane. Will update you more later…Nikki

His voice is still shot that's why they use "backing tapes".

circusfreak · Post by **circusfreak** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:30 pm

Kiss has lost the plot. Perth was a 17 song setlist. They played 3 monster songs, God of thunder, I was made, Shandi. Now they're cutting the setlist, Gene's doing I love it loud from the lighting truss (it's a good song but absolutely sucks after the bass solo and Gene's elevation to the lighting truss, they've dropped I was made. I mean seriously, WTF? It was their most popular song and they're not playing in Australia.
Kiss should of played a longer set last night when Motley was cut short, they even came on 10 minutes early. I was psyched thinking we'd get more songs, but no, didn't happen. And seriously shock me? I was made for lovin' you gone, but shock me back in?
The crowd was abysmal, the entire upper level was curtained off, the back of the arena floor where Paul's love gun stage is only had like 100 people there. Worst Kiss show I've been too, hopefully Brisbane and Mackay will be better, they're close to sellouts.

Deleted User 32 · Post by **Deleted User 32** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:37 pm

circusfreak wrote:Kiss has lost the plot. Perth was a 17 song setlist. They played 3 monster songs, God of thunder, I was made, Shandi. Now they're cutting the setlist, Gene's doing I love it loud from the lighting truss (it's a good song but absolutely sucks after the bass solo and Gene's elevation to the lighting truss, they've dropped I was made. I mean seriously, WTF? It was their most popular song and they're not playing in Australia.
Kiss should of played a longer set last night when Motley was cut short, they even came on 10 minutes early. I was psyched thinking we'd get more songs, but no, didn't happen. And seriously shock me? I was made for lovin' you gone, but shock me back in?
The crowd was abysmal, the entire upper level was curtained off, the back of the arena floor where Paul's love gun stage is only had like 100 people there. Worst Kiss show I've been too, hopefully Brisbane and Mackay will be better, they're close to sellouts.

I've been to 29 Kiss shows and last night was as much fun as any other. Crowd size has never been something for me to worry about or use as a factor in determining how good a show is. I was hoping, like you and many others, that they'd play more songs after Motley cut short, but it wasn't to be.

I still had a great time. Especially after security removed the smelly, beer spilling drunk from behind me.

dute · Post by **dute** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:11 pm

firekiss wrote:
circusfreak wrote:Kiss has lost the plot. Perth was a 17 song setlist. They played 3 monster songs, God of thunder, I was made, Shandi. Now they're cutting the setlist, Gene's doing I love it loud from the lighting truss (it's a good song but absolutely sucks after the bass solo and Gene's elevation to the lighting truss, they've dropped I was made. I mean seriously, WTF? It was their most popular song and they're not playing in Australia.
Kiss should of played a longer set last night when Motley was cut short, they even came on 10 minutes early. I was psyched thinking we'd get more songs, but no, didn't happen. And seriously shock me? I was made for lovin' you gone, but shock me back in?
The crowd was abysmal, the entire upper level was curtained off, the back of the arena floor where Paul's love gun stage is only had like 100 people there. Worst Kiss show I've been too, hopefully Brisbane and Mackay will be better, they're close to sellouts.
I've been to 29 Kiss shows and last night was as much fun as any other. Crowd size has never been something for me to worry about or use as a factor in determining how good a show is. I was hoping, like you and many others, that they'd play more songs after Motley cut short, but it wasn't to be.

I still had a great time. Especially after security removed the smelly, beer spilling drunk from behind me.

You mean, you weren't staring at the crowd instead of the gigs?

Glad you had a good time at the show, FK.

steveh67 · Post by **steveh67** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:03 pm

firekiss wrote:
circusfreak wrote:Kiss has lost the plot. Perth was a 17 song setlist. They played 3 monster songs, God of thunder, I was made, Shandi. Now they're cutting the setlist, Gene's doing I love it loud from the lighting truss (it's a good song but absolutely sucks after the bass solo and Gene's elevation to the lighting truss, they've dropped I was made. I mean seriously, WTF? It was their most popular song and they're not playing in Australia.
Kiss should of played a longer set last night when Motley was cut short, they even came on 10 minutes early. I was psyched thinking we'd get more songs, but no, didn't happen. And seriously shock me? I was made for lovin' you gone, but shock me back in?
The crowd was abysmal, the entire upper level was curtained off, the back of the arena floor where Paul's love gun stage is only had like 100 people there. Worst Kiss show I've been too, hopefully Brisbane and Mackay will be better, they're close to sellouts.
I've been to 29 Kiss shows and last night was as much fun as any other. Crowd size has never been something for me to worry about or use as a factor in determining how good a show is. I was hoping, like you and many others, that they'd play more songs after Motley cut short, but it wasn't to be.

I still had a great time. Especially after security removed the smelly, beer spilling drunk from behind me.

Sounds like the same mofo I had to put up with at the Ace Frehley solo show in Melbourne back in 2010.

p.s I suspected the 2nd night would find some sections of the arena curtained off, it's a big arena compared to the old Sydney Ent Centre.

Deleted User 32 · Post by **Deleted User 32** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:16 am

steveh67 wrote:
firekiss wrote:
circusfreak wrote:Kiss has lost the plot. Perth was a 17 song setlist. They played 3 monster songs, God of thunder, I was made, Shandi. Now they're cutting the setlist, Gene's doing I love it loud from the lighting truss (it's a good song but absolutely sucks after the bass solo and Gene's elevation to the lighting truss, they've dropped I was made. I mean seriously, WTF? It was their most popular song and they're not playing in Australia.
Kiss should of played a longer set last night when Motley was cut short, they even came on 10 minutes early. I was psyched thinking we'd get more songs, but no, didn't happen. And seriously shock me? I was made for lovin' you gone, but shock me back in?
The crowd was abysmal, the entire upper level was curtained off, the back of the arena floor where Paul's love gun stage is only had like 100 people there. Worst Kiss show I've been too, hopefully Brisbane and Mackay will be better, they're close to sellouts.
I've been to 29 Kiss shows and last night was as much fun as any other. Crowd size has never been something for me to worry about or use as a factor in determining how good a show is. I was hoping, like you and many others, that they'd play more songs after Motley cut short, but it wasn't to be.

I still had a great time. Especially after security removed the smelly, beer spilling drunk from behind me.
Sounds like the same mofo I had to put up with at the Ace Frehley solo show in Melbourne back in 2010.

p.s I suspected the 2nd night would find some sections of the arena curtained off, it's a big arena compared to the old Sydney Ent Centre.

Yep, they curtained the entire back section off and also moved the Destroyer section forward I think. The front section was only about 10 metres deep and nowhere near full. I did expect this, though. This second show went on sale and sold what it sold and they probably hoped they'd get a few walk ups on the night. Problem was, inbetween the show going on sale and show night, Gns and Roses, ZZ Top, Springsteen, The Darkness, Aerosmith and Van Halen all went on sale. Add previously announced shows by Deep Purple/Journey and Black Sabbath and you have a huge drain on funds for most people.

Still, the crowd was in fine voice for Kiss last night and the band looked to be enjoying themselves onstage.

Journey of 1000 Beers · Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:43 am

I was going to get tickets for the Monster Madness zone for Sunday but changed my mind and went on Saturday and could only get Gold reserve.

oh well still had a good time!