Aussie Monster #2: Adelaide, 3/3/13

kisssman · Post by **kisssman** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:54 am

NIGHTTHING wrote:And just before singing "Shandi," Paul had to ask and wait for his capoed guitar.

His what?

sakke72 · Post by **sakke72** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:08 pm

kisssman wrote:
NIGHTTHING wrote:And just before singing "Shandi," Paul had to ask and wait for his capoed guitar.
His what?

He uses "capo" in his guitar when playing Shandi. Check this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capo

kisssman · Post by **kisssman** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:19 pm

sakke72 wrote:
kisssman wrote:
NIGHTTHING wrote:And just before singing "Shandi," Paul had to ask and wait for his capoed guitar.
His what?
He uses "capo" in his guitar when playing Shandi. Check this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capo

I see.

So did Paul do his slow, solo version? Or did they do the standard version?

Anomaly · Post by **Anomaly** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:23 pm

Shane_Penney wrote:Based on the info out there...

1. Detroit Rock City
2. Shout It Out Loud
3. Hell or Hallelujah
4. I Love It Loud
5. Psycho Circus
6. Calling Dr. Love
7. Firehouse
8. Crazy Crazy Nights
9. Outta This World
10. Tommy and Eric Jam
11. Bass Solo
12. God of Thunder
13. War Machine
14. Shandi (Paul alone)
15. Love Gun
16. Black Diamond

Encore:
17. Lick It Up
18. I Was Made for Lovin' You
19. Rock and Roll All Nite

I actually like this setlist. It will vary slightly when the band plays in North America this summer.

My suggestion is to drop Crazy Nights, I Was Made For Lovin You, and Shandi (They won't play that in N America anyhow).

Bring back "Wall Of Sound", "Ladies Room", and try "Hard Luck Woman".

Why the band avoids Hard Luck Woman I will never know, it's not a Peter-penned tune and Paul can get Eric to sing it (yet he doesn't for some strange reason if you look at the Kruise performances.)

What I see happening in Europe is Shandi being replaced by Crazy Nights and Wall of Sound returning in its original position. North America will probably have Europe's set, with maybe IWMFLY being dropped for a rotating encore like on The Tour. C'Mon And Love Me, Deuce, Strutter, Got To Choose, Do You Love Me?...I see those coming back.

sakke72 · Post by **sakke72** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:35 pm

It is little surprise that they don`t play Deuce, it is usually those "must play" songs along with Love Gun, Black Diamond, Detroit and Rock And Roll All Nite.

phoenixphil · Post by **phoenixphil** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:49 pm

The return of Crazy Crazy Nights indicates they're warming it up ready for the European leg of the tour. I would be surprised to see GGRnRTY2 start slipping in there too. KISS are rumored to bead headlining the huge Hard Rock Calling Festival in the UK and I should imagine it would expected for them to play there two big hits here.

Robdaddy · Post by **Robdaddy** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:09 pm

Anomaly wrote:Why the band avoids Hard Luck Woman I will never know, it's not a Peter-penned tune and Paul can get Eric to sing it (yet he doesn't for some strange reason if you look at the Kruise performances.)

Good point. It would add variety to the show, bring back a good song, and give Paul more of the break he needs.

Fabiofrehley · Post by **Fabiofrehley** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:19 pm

Admin wrote:
Fabiofrehley wrote:So, it was the same thing, but Crazy Crazy Nights instead of Wall of Sound ? At least, they mixed one song from the setlist : ) I hope they keep up the rotating
Perhaps you should attribute information you're cutting and pasting in full on setlist.fm - lifting poster's whole reports is rude. Wonder what else you've lifted from the tourdates archive here and in KAF? Hmm...

well, nobody said it wasn't public, i'm just sharing the info, if they ask me where i got the info, i'll say, "it was on KISSFaq" or whatever my source was. Don't worry man, i'm not lifting the top secret archives from the pentagon, and i really wanna say thanks for everybody who is sharing your reviews, pics & videos

Anyway, anybody have info about meet & greet ?

KISS Unmasked II · Post by **KISS Unmasked II** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:27 pm

sakke72 · Post by **sakke72** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:53 pm

Paul has power in his voice in Detroit, I am almost excited:)
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awawaw · Post by **awawaw** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:55 pm

see, this is why they dont change the setlist much. damed if they do.....

Frehley's Vomit · Post by **Frehley's Vomit** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:12 pm

My son had an awesome time. That's all that matters to me.

Anomaly · Post by **Anomaly** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:19 pm

sakke72 wrote:Paul has power in his voice in Detroit, I am almost excited:)
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Sounds the same as on The Tour.

KISSTRONAUT · Post by **KISSTRONAUT** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:29 pm

Anomaly wrote:
sakke72 wrote:Paul has power in his voice in Detroit, I am almost excited:)
kShncF4IArc&list=UUgrPVX5bYdKQINQFosFMHDQ&index=1
Sounds the same as on The Tour.

I disagree Anomaly, when you listen to the Letterman Special, this is improved. Paul will never be what he once was or what we wish he could be. I can live with this though.

Anomaly · Post by **Anomaly** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:33 pm

KISSTRONAUT wrote:
Anomaly wrote:
sakke72 wrote:Paul has power in his voice in Detroit, I am almost excited:)
kShncF4IArc&list=UUgrPVX5bYdKQINQFosFMHDQ&index=1
Sounds the same as on The Tour.
I disagree Anomaly, when you listen to the Letterman Special, this is improved. Paul will never be what he once was or what we wish he could be. I can live with this though.

The Letterman broadcast DRC sounded worse than the North American leg of The Tour since it was mid-set. I notice whenever DRC is at the start of the set it sounds fine for the most part.

KISSTRONAUT · Post by **KISSTRONAUT** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:39 pm

Anomaly wrote:
KISSTRONAUT wrote:
Anomaly wrote:
sakke72 wrote:Paul has power in his voice in Detroit, I am almost excited:)
kShncF4IArc&list=UUgrPVX5bYdKQINQFosFMHDQ&index=1
Sounds the same as on The Tour.
I disagree Anomaly, when you listen to the Letterman Special, this is improved. Paul will never be what he once was or what we wish he could be. I can live with this though.
The Letterman broadcast DRC sounded worse than the North American leg of The Tour since it was mid-set. I notice whenever DRC is at the start of the set it sounds fine for the most part.

I think since they stopped in 2012 and have picked up in 2013 there is some improvement. I don't know if it's from rest, or treatment, or more work, or if it will even last, but I'm hopeful more than I was a few months ago.

Anomaly · Post by **Anomaly** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:42 pm

KISSTRONAUT wrote:
Anomaly wrote:
KISSTRONAUT wrote:
Anomaly wrote:
sakke72 wrote:Paul has power in his voice in Detroit, I am almost excited:)
kShncF4IArc&list=UUgrPVX5bYdKQINQFosFMHDQ&index=1
Sounds the same as on The Tour.
I disagree Anomaly, when you listen to the Letterman Special, this is improved. Paul will never be what he once was or what we wish he could be. I can live with this though.
The Letterman broadcast DRC sounded worse than the North American leg of The Tour since it was mid-set. I notice whenever DRC is at the start of the set it sounds fine for the most part.
I think since they stopped in 2012 and have picked up in 2013 there is some improvement. I don't know if it's from rest, or treatment, or more work, or if it will even last, but I'm hopeful more than I was a few months ago.

He's holding himself back as you can see on Love Gun, you can still hear the straining and cracking when he tries to push it. I just pointed out earlier that Detroit Rock City sounds like The Tour's quality thus far, but it is better than the South American shows. Then again, you can't really do worse than the South American shows.

KISSTRONAUT · Post by **KISSTRONAUT** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:45 pm

Anomaly wrote:
KISSTRONAUT wrote:
Anomaly wrote:
KISSTRONAUT wrote:
Anomaly wrote:
sakke72 wrote:Paul has power in his voice in Detroit, I am almost excited:)
kShncF4IArc&list=UUgrPVX5bYdKQINQFosFMHDQ&index=1
Sounds the same as on The Tour.
I disagree Anomaly, when you listen to the Letterman Special, this is improved. Paul will never be what he once was or what we wish he could be. I can live with this though.
The Letterman broadcast DRC sounded worse than the North American leg of The Tour since it was mid-set. I notice whenever DRC is at the start of the set it sounds fine for the most part.
I think since they stopped in 2012 and have picked up in 2013 there is some improvement. I don't know if it's from rest, or treatment, or more work, or if it will even last, but I'm hopeful more than I was a few months ago.
He's holding himself back as you can see on Love Gun, you can still hear the straining and cracking when he tries to push it. I just pointed out earlier that Detroit Rock City sounds like The Tour's quality thus far, but it is better than the South American shows. Then again, you can't really do worse than the South American shows.

He is being a bit wiser with what he does, and seems to be doing what a lot of people wished he would do. But yes, it's a lot better than the South American clips.

KISS Unmasked II · Post by **KISS Unmasked II** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:47 pm

Just as it was when I saw them in 2011 in Houston, Paul sounded great last night. But now that I have seen a couple of short clips pop up the issues are more noticeable.
People need to stop judging his vocals on YouTube and go to a show !

Post by **Trance** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:00 pm

He did sound stronger in that "DRC" clip.

Frehley's Vomit · Post by **Frehley's Vomit** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:12 pm

One of my favourite local pubs got into the spirit of the day;

timstar78 · Post by **timstar78** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:37 pm

Paul Stanley breaks into excerpts of the Doors' "Light My Fire" and "Heaven's On Fire" during a fire mishap in Adelaide:

Anomaly · Post by **Anomaly** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:41 pm

Welp, that rules out Heaven's On Fire ever returning to the set. Yikes.

KISSTRONAUT · Post by **KISSTRONAUT** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:44 pm

Anomaly wrote:Welp, that rules out Heaven's On Fire ever returning to the set. Yikes.

Light My Fire sounded pretty good though.

Have to stay in the low to mid ranges.

steveh67 · Post by **steveh67** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:49 pm

db99 wrote:
Trance wrote:Where's "Wall Of Sound"?

WTF?
I don't get dropping WOS for CCN on the Monster tour.

I hope they do CCN in Sydney

Monster album sucks.

scottkfan1 · Post by **scottkfan1** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:24 pm

Frehley's Vomit wrote:My son had an awesome time. That's all that matters to me.

frehleys vomit your post put a smile on my face..thats what its all about

froginsox · Post by **froginsox** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:35 pm

a few slight rearrangements from memory

1. Detroit Rock City
2. Shout It Out Loud
3. Calling Dr. Love
4. Firehouse
5. I Love It Loud
6. Hell or Hallelujah
7. Psycho Circus
8. Outta This World
9. Tommy and Eric Jam
10. Bass Solo
11. God of Thunder
12. War Machine
13. Shandi (Paul alone)
14. Crazy Crazy Nights
15. Love Gun
16. Black Diamond

Encore:
17. Lick It Up
18. I Was Made for Lovin' You
19. Rock and Roll All Nite

Awesome show...if I hadn't known about Paul's vocal issues I wouldn't have noticed them at all. It topped the RTN show 1000%
Should Kiss retire? Based on last night....NO!!!

Crue rocked as well

Frehley's Vomit · Post by **Frehley's Vomit** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:41 pm

froginsox wrote:a few slight rearrangements from memory

1. Detroit Rock City
2. Shout It Out Loud
3. Calling Dr. Love
4. Firehouse
5. I Love It Loud
6. Hell or Hallelujah
7. Psycho Circus
8. Outta This World
9. Tommy and Eric Jam
10. Bass Solo
11. God of Thunder
12. War Machine
13. Shandi (Paul alone)
14. Crazy Crazy Nights
15. Love Gun
16. Black Diamond

Encore:
17. Lick It Up
18. I Was Made for Lovin' You
19. Rock and Roll All Nite

That's about right. Good memory.

I actually looked for you in the crowd, but didn't see you.

froginsox · Post by **froginsox** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:53 pm

Frehley's Vomit wrote:
froginsox wrote:a few slight rearrangements from memory

1. Detroit Rock City
2. Shout It Out Loud
3. Calling Dr. Love
4. Firehouse
5. I Love It Loud
6. Hell or Hallelujah
7. Psycho Circus
8. Outta This World
9. Tommy and Eric Jam
10. Bass Solo
11. God of Thunder
12. War Machine
13. Shandi (Paul alone)
14. Crazy Crazy Nights
15. Love Gun
16. Black Diamond

Encore:
17. Lick It Up
18. I Was Made for Lovin' You
19. Rock and Roll All Nite
That's about right. Good memory.

I actually looked for you in the crowd, but didn't see you.

I looked for the chick in your avatar...didn't see her

I'm glad your son had a good time

KISSTRONAUT · Post by **KISSTRONAUT** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:56 pm

scottkfan1 wrote:
Frehley's Vomit wrote:My son had an awesome time. That's all that matters to me.
frehleys vomit your post put a smile on my face..thats what its all about

Yes indeed.

Starscream · Post by **Starscream** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:08 pm

timstar78 wrote:Paul Stanley breaks into excerpts of the Doors' "Light My Fire" and "Heaven's On Fire" during a fire mishap in Adelaide:

I really enjoyed the show, Paul was great in parts (particularly on DRC). But man, that Heaven's on Fire bit was painful to watch.

Frehley's Vomit · Post by **Frehley's Vomit** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:36 pm

scottkfan1 wrote:
Frehley's Vomit wrote:My son had an awesome time. That's all that matters to me.
frehleys vomit your post put a smile on my face..thats what its all about

Absolutely. Nothing else mattered.

froginsox · Post by **froginsox** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:22 pm

Starscream wrote:
timstar78 wrote:Paul Stanley breaks into excerpts of the Doors' "Light My Fire" and "Heaven's On Fire" during a fire mishap in Adelaide:

I really enjoyed the show, Paul was great in parts (particularly on DRC). But man, that Heaven's on Fire bit was painful to watch.

That cannot be blamed on crappy Youtube audio...that was painful in person

timstar78 · Post by **timstar78** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:31 pm

"God Of Thunder"

NIGHTTHING · Post by **NIGHTTHING** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:36 pm

During Paul's introduction for one song, he said it's called "I," stepped back from the mic, looked towards Gene...

And then, back at mic, completed the title... "I Love It Loud."

Anyone else think, for that second or so, we were gonna get a rarity?

Anomaly · Post by **Anomaly** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:00 pm

timstar78 wrote:"God Of Thunder"

Yep, someone got fired that night.

NIGHTTHING · Post by **NIGHTTHING** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:08 pm

Anomaly wrote:
timstar78 wrote:"God Of Thunder"

Yep, someone got fired that night.

It's Gene's Adelaide curse. He never flies right, here.

dute · Post by **dute** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:44 pm

I'm refraining from watching any of these videos or looking at images.
I'll see it all for myself tomorrow and Wednesday. :mrgreen:

Hope all who attended had a great time!

Anomaly · Post by **Anomaly** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:56 pm

dute wrote:I'm refraining from watching any of these videos or looking at images.
I'll see it all for myself tomorrow and Wednesday. :mrgreen:

Hope all who attended had a great time!

Since I feel like being a dick I'll spoil it for you.

- Y'know the Van Halen "Panama" video where everyone's zipping around on that rope? Yeah, Paul and his chicken-feathers zip across the stage during HoH just like that.
- Gene looks absolutely ecstatic to fly now.
- Tommy does that one thing where he makes it sound like he's playing like Ace but he's not playing like Ace.
- Eric has four bass drums. He's impersonating Alex Van Halen now, headband, sunglasses, receding hairline, the whole sh-bang.

NIGHTTHING · Post by **NIGHTTHING** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:14 pm

dute wrote:... I'll see it all for myself tomorrow and Wednesday.
Hope all who attended had a great time!

Can't speak for all 40K, but I know we eight (and surrounding others) did.

You can't beat an outdoor rock show on a lovely warm night (with light breeze) - great sound, full pyro, huge crowd...

My four sons got many compliments about their KISS faces - which I painted during The Beards' funny set, with dozens of onlookers - and they had photos taken by many.

Hope the rest of the tour is so enjoyed.

Have fun, Dute.

dute · Post by **dute** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:34 pm

Anomaly wrote:
dute wrote:I'm refraining from watching any of these videos or looking at images.
I'll see it all for myself tomorrow and Wednesday. :mrgreen:

Hope all who attended had a great time!
Since I feel like being a dick I'll spoil it for you.

- Y'know the Van Halen "Panama" video where everyone's zipping around on that rope? Yeah, Paul and his chicken-feathers zip across the stage during HoH just like that.
- Gene looks absolutely ecstatic to fly now.
- Tommy does that one thing where he makes it sound like he's playing like Ace but he's not playing like Ace.
- Eric has four bass drums. He's impersonating Alex Van Halen now, headband, sunglasses, receding hairline, the whole sh-bang.

That's it. You're going on my Ignore list.

NIGHTTHING wrote:
dute wrote:... I'll see it all for myself tomorrow and Wednesday.
Hope all who attended had a great time!
Can't speak for all 40K, but I know we eight (and surrounding others) did.

You can't beat an outdoor rock show on a lovely warm night (with light breeze) - great sound, full pyro, huge crowd...

My four sons got many compliments about their KISS faces - which I painted during The Beards' funny set, with dozens of onlookers - and they had photos taken by many.

Hope the rest of the tour is so enjoyed.

Have fun, Dute.

Glad you enjoyed it, as did your children.

Rated-R-Ron · Post by **Rated-R-Ron** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:24 pm

Holy shit! Paul sounded sublime doing that Doors bit.
He should write some tunes in that lower range and than maybe he could perform them and not sound like his dying half the time. What a shame.

jayjtee · Post by **jayjtee** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:59 pm

NIGHTTHING wrote:During Paul's introduction for one song, he said it's called "I," stepped back from the mic, looked towards Gene...

And then, back at mic, completed the title... "I Love It Loud." Anyone else think, for that second or so, we were gonna get a rarity?

I thought he was going to play I, until he continued the title, then I thought I Was Made For Loving You. It didnt even cross my mind I Love It Loud coz you would thing Gene would introduce his own song.... woudn't you?? Anyway
both bands put on great shows IMO Sadly Paul cant hit the high notes in IWMFLY anymore, that aside We enjoyed the show.

AceInTheHole · Post by **AceInTheHole** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:06 am

NIGHTTHING wrote:
KISS Unmasked II wrote:There was a fire in the rafters, and Paul did an acapella version of The Doors "Light My Fire" as they bought the lighting rig down to extinguish it.
He actually sang a line or two of "Heaven's on Fire" just before the Doors song.

The "Light My Fire" lines were GREAT! That line or two of "Heaven's on Fire" was ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL!

NIGHTTHING · Post by **NIGHTTHING** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:34 am

jayjtee wrote:Anyway both bands put on great shows...

Well, not a fan, but Motley had a show - video, flames and girls - they just sounded crap. Bassy, murky and rough.

KISS' sound, by comparison, was huge and clear. Hell, the warm-up groups sounded better than MC.

bluedog · Post by **bluedog** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:47 am

NIGHTTHING wrote:
kissjrj wrote:Tommy tweets:.. 40,000 maniacs
Wow, that was a great crowd!

And this report, https://www.kissfaq.com/forum24/viewtopi ... 38&t=84754, says:

With the circus back in town, the faithful were out in force - a 12,000-strong sellout...

So what was it, 12 000 or 40 000??????????????

I should point out however, that the same report said:

Things lulled a little in the middle as Kiss motored through plenty of tracks from their latest, 20th studio album Monster...

andykiss78 · Post by **andykiss78** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:25 am

It's the wrong review. This review is for Perth, not Adelaide.

The Clipsal 500 race sold out for the very first time in its 15 year history yesterday. There would have been at LEAST 40000 people stay around for the concert, considering there were 98000 people there for the day.

NIGHTTHING · Post by **NIGHTTHING** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:28 am

As I said: Great crowd!

Took forever to get out of the damn place.

bluedog · Post by **bluedog** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:32 am

andykiss78 wrote:It's the wrong review. This review is for Perth, not Adelaide.

The Clipsal 500 race sold out for the very first time in its 15 year history yesterday. There would have been at LEAST 40000 people stay around for the concert, considering there were 98000 people there for the day.

Apologies for not reading carefullu enough.

Although the title did throw me.

andykiss78 · Post by **andykiss78** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:44 am

bluedog wrote:
andykiss78 wrote:It's the wrong review. This review is for Perth, not Adelaide.

The Clipsal 500 race sold out for the very first time in its 15 year history yesterday. There would have been at LEAST 40000 people stay around for the concert, considering there were 98000 people there for the day.
Apologies for not reading carefullu enough.

Although the title did throw me.

No apology needed.