heart_of_chrome wrote: Anomaly wrote:
heart_of_chrome wrote:All their touring and release schedules have been weird over the last four or five years.
I view it as them doubling down on the money they pull in. If you think about it, for Sonic Boom and Monster they have received the green light for TWO
North American tours per record. Arenas in 2009 for Sonic Boom under the Alive/35 moniker pre-release, amphitheaters in 2010 under a more proper 'Sonic Boom' moniker (yes I know, the words 'Sonic Boom' weren't in the tour name.) For Monster, amphitheaters in 2012 to promote the new single and get the word out for the upcoming new record, arenas (supposedly) in 2013 to actual promote the released songs
Never thought about it that way. You are right, they basically had two tours for every album. For Sonic Boom, you could almost say they had three since there was the Lost Cities Tour in 2011. But we'll see how many Monster songs there will be left when they hit North America again.
Wouldn't really consider the 2011 leg as a 3rd North American tour, 2009 and 2010 they hit the same primary markets, 2011 they were hitting "lost cities" as in cities they don't visit often.
I see Hell or Hallelujah and Outta This World remaining as the two Monster songs left by the time they return to North America. Hell or Hallelujah is this record's Modern Day Delilah, it will stick around into 2014 even after the Monster Tour has concluded. Outta This World will remain in the set because it doesn't matter what song is in that position since that's the guitar solo/drum solo spot now. The fans on The Tour I noticed didn't react to Shock Me but to what came after
Shock Me, like Outta This World, the fans won't react to the actual song but they'll certainly react to the 'jam session' after it.
Do you think there is a chance that some of the dropped Monster songs might return for the Euro leg? I have the feeling that since Kiss skipped Australia for the (real) Alive/35 tour and the Sonic Boom tour that they just might give them more or less of a best of set right now because they haven't been there for a long time anyway. Europe was really the only leg that got the real Alive/35 setlist with shows covering all of Alive! and shows still having 12 of 15 songs in there. By the time they hit the US, the setlist changed drastically. And then you had the Sonic Boom Over Europe Tour; the only tour name actually including the album with 21 songs; three off of Monster, Crazy Nights, the return of Beth etc. So I hope and guess that by the time they hit Europe in May/June, their set and show for the Monster Tour might be more polished and maybe see a return of AFTLORAR and WoS.
I think this is about it for the Monster songs for the rest of the tour, I don't see Wall of Sound returning to its original position but I see a rotating song position taking its place. Could Wall of Sound return in that position? In rotation, I don't see it coming back permanently. What I'd do is I would take out I Love It Loud and put War Machine as the blood-spitting song (that'd be new), put Wall of Sound back in the set, and keep that rotating spot in the main set. Everybody's happy.
Some of the setlist choices and changes as well.
There's only really a handful of setlist choices/changes that I would call bizarre since 2009.
Dropping Say Yeah after debuting it live was a dumb decision, personally I really wanted to hear that one live...
The decision to keep Crazy Nights in the set for the US tour, I understand why they'd play it in Europe but keeping it on for HSOE I'd consider strange. Oh, throw in bringing back Beth mid-year, I found that weird considering both Paul & Gene don't like the song.
Bringing back War Machine and Psycho Circus out of nowhere, it's cool to have them in the set but it's still a headscratcher on why they came back.
Dropping Wall of Sound, bringing back Crazy Nights, and dropping Shandi (in the one country it's considered a hit) I would consider bizarre.
Valid points. I'm definitely surprised that they brought back War Machine and Psycho Circus but I hope they will survive the Euro tour in May. I haven't heard them play those songs live before. And leave in God of Thunder. It's the "true" blood-spitting song and I haven't heard that one either.
War Machine and Psycho Circus I am confident will remain in the set, I didn't think War Machine would make it to South America and it did...now that it's made it to Australia (PC too) I'd be dumbfounded if they dropped those two for Europe. While God of Thunder hasn't been a set mainstay as of late (going unperformed on a full tour from 2004-2010) I'd keep it out.
Personally this would be my set for Europe, feel free to tell me your thoughts on it.
1. Detroit Rock City
2. Shout It Out Loud
3. Calling Dr. Love
4. Hotter Than Hell
5. All For The Love of Rock 'n Roll
6. [Christine Sixteen, Strutter, Deuce, C'Mon And Love Me, Got To Choose, Do You Love Me?]
7. Hell or Hallelujah
8. Wall of Sound
9. Psycho Circus
10. Outta This World (w/Guitar + Drum Solo)
11. Crazy Crazy Nights
12. War Machine (w/Blood)
13. Love Gun
14. Rock And Roll All Nite
15. I Was Made For Loving You
16. God Gave Rock 'n Roll To You
17. Black Diamond
Reverend Colonel wrote:
Anomaly wrote:Nice to see Black Diamond close (unless it actually was IWMFLY)...don't think it has closed since Tiger Stadium.
As I recall, it closed at the next show in Louisville, as well.
Ah, that's correct...it closed for the first five Reunion shows.