Summer '11 Show 17: 7/26/11 - Orillia, ON

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July 26 – Casino Rama, Orillia, ON, Canada
Promoter: Penn National Gaming, Inc/Live Nation
Opening/other act(s): None
Reported attendance: ? / 5,116

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By my math KISS should be onstage right now !
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KISS army ready to invade Rama
New guitarist says there's no end in sight to the Kiss phenomena
By JIM BARBER, QMI Agency
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For nearly 40 years, Kiss has been one of the planet's most recognizable, popular and successful rock bands.

And it seems like that isn't going to be ending any time soon.

For the past three years, the band has performed more than 250 shows, in three dozen nations around the world, to an audience that is arguably getting younger and younger.

As part of a short mid-summer tour, Kiss, comprising original members Gene Simmons, 61, and Paul Stanley, 59, along with longtime drummer Eric Singer and guitarist Tommy Thayer, will be shaking the foundations of Casino Rama outside Orillia, on Tuesday and then take to the stage at Caesar's Windsor the following evening.

Thayer, who has been working with the band in a background capacity since the early 1990s, and joined the band as a full-fledged member in 2002, told QMI Agency about what a ride it's been for the veteran rockers over the past number of years.

"It's been a whirlwind, and it keeps going because it's been going so well that we keep on adding shows here and there. This run we're on now is only about five or six weeks, but a lot of the shows are up in Canada, which has always been one of the greatest places for us to play. Some of the biggest turnouts, almost ever, have been at some of our Canadian shows. There's a lot of great fans there," Thayer said from Los Angeles, where the band had taken a short break from touring to do some work on their next album.

The band's previous album, Sonic Boom, was the first studio album for Kiss in more than a decade, and the first with Thayer.

It was a smash hit, in an era when record sales have been in decline thanks to the advent of downloading. On the strength of the singles Modern Day Deliliah and Say Yeah, the Sonic Boom world tour has, essentially never stopped. Thayer said all of the band members, but particularly stalwarts Simmons and Stanley, were very pleased with the album, and were heartened by the critical acclaim it received, as well as the overwhelming fan support.

Like their as-yet-untitled forthcoming album, Sonic Boom was recorded 'old-school', much like Kiss' first three albums — Kiss, Hotter than Hell and Dressed to Kill — in the early 1970s.

"We were super proud of how we wrote and recorded that album, and the way it sounded. From top to bottom, we were 100% happy with how it turned out. The whole design of it was something that we were going to do just between the four band members. We did all the writing and recording, we didn't get influenced, or have outside input on song selections or anything like that. We did it almost like a new band starting up would," Thayer explained.

"It reminded me of that feeling of going back to when you first got into a band, where you're in your garage or someone's basement, and you're writing songs and recording them. There was no real agenda with Sonic Boom. We wanted to keep it simple, and not over-think it."

Thayer said eight songs have been recorded for the new album, and there are still four or five more to go.

"This new record has the same approach, but I think we've even upped the ante as far as the writing, and I think we're just more comfortable now. We're coming up with even cooler ideas. And even the recording process is kind of a throwback. In the studio, everybody is playing together, it's not just building tracks up one instrument at a time. We all played together, and we recorded on analog tape ... to get the real straight-ahead rock sound," he said.

"When you hit that tape, with a hard punchy sound, there's a certain style and warmth that you don't get on a digital recording."

Thayer, who turns 51 in November, said he is heartened to hear that many fans, including an increasing number of young fans, are rediscovering vinyl LPs, and seeing music are more than just another disposable digital commodity.

"When we were younger, you'd buy an album, and you'd sit there for hours looking at the cover, and every little detail and all the liner notes and lyrics, while you played it over and over again. There really was a visual and interactive part to it. And it was an event to go buy records," he said.

"And then with cassettes and later CDs, you kind of lost a lot of that, because the packaging got so small. And it became less important, and now you're at the point where you do a digital download and that whole 'event' element to new music is go. It's no wonder that kids today don't want to collect music like we used to. What is to collecting a digital file? Who cares, right?"

But he said Kiss still thinks it's important to treat every new album as an event ... and apparently it's worked, as Sonic Boom entered the Billboard charts at No. 2 when it was released and topped the charts in many other countries.

Thayer's story is an interesting one. A life-long fan of Kiss, he's been able to live the dream of every kid who ever signed up for the Kiss Army fan club, or dressed up at Hallowe'en in the vaunted Kiss make-up as either the Demon, Starchild, Spaceman or Cat.

Originally from Portland, Ore., he formed a band called Black 'n Blue in his hometown in the early 1980s, and moved to Los Angeles to find fame and fortune.

After just six months on the circuit, the band was signed to Geffen Records and earned some slots opening up for some pretty big bands, including Kiss.

"That's when I met Paul and Gene. Not long after that, we asked Gene to produce our third and fourth albums for Black 'n Blue, which he did. So we kind of built a relationship and it started evolving, and soon thereafter, he asked me to come and write with he and Paul for a record they were working on. So I got more involved in their world. After Black 'n Blue ran its course (around 1989), they hired me to come and work for them, part time to begin with, just as a guy to help out with whatever project they were doing at the time," he said.

In 1996, Kiss donned the face paint again after 13 years without it. The band also reunited with the two other iconic original members, guitarist Ace Frehley and drummer Peter Criss.

Thayer was working behind the scenes, basically working with Frehley to help him re-learn his guitar parts on many of the classic songs which he hadn't played for many years.

"And it was partially managing their reunion tour, doing a lot behind the scenes. I was also editing and producing their long-form videos. And, at the end of the day, it all evolved to where they wanted to make a chance in 2002, and they asked me to step into the coveted role as the lead guitar player, and that was almost 10 years ago now," he said.

Thayer replaced Frehley, who wanted to go back to his solo career, and donned the Spaceman outfit and make-up.

Although there were some fans who resented both he and Singer donning the looks of Frehley and Criss respectively (back in the early 1980s, Criss' replacement Eric Carr was The Fox, and guitarist Vinnie Vincent had an ancient Egyptian design on his face paint), Thayer said the vast majority have no problem with it.

"Being in Kiss for the first time was almost an out-of-body experience. You can't ever imagine something like that happening. And I think 99 per cent of the fans are cool now with me, just because we have been touring for several years, and particularly for the last two or three years, the shows have been so huge, and it's a different kind of crowd now. There are a lot of new fans of all different ages, and lots of younger kids that are just discovering Kiss, and it's not a big deal to them," Thayer said.

"These days, people are going to see and experience Kiss — the extravaganza, see the performance, the spectacle and here the songs. It's more like the circus coming to town. People are coming to see a cultural icon. I think people need to get real with the fact that, as time goes on, the bands are going to change.

"And some purists say, 'they should just hang it up then.' Why? That's not reality. People still want to see these bands and hear the music, and if there are different people up there doing it, people have to get real to that fact it's going to happen. Look at Lynyrd Skynyrd, and Journey and Foreigner. But don't get me wrong, it's got to be done well, if not better than the original, and it's got to look and sound great. Rock and roll shows like ours are something that people are always going to want to see, and it's not going to just end all of a sudden."

And Thayer confirms that neither Stanley nor Simmons have given any indication that they want to stop any time soon.
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At the airport now on the way home.

Not a great show. This is not a great venue for Kiss. The crowd was the lamest I've ever seen. The band had to beg them to stand, it was a much older crowd and i thnik a lot of curiosity seekers as much as Kiss fans.

Cold Gin and Say Yeah were dropped.

Paul was off. Very little movement, low energy, voice was no better or worse than we heard. It seemes like Tommy was trying to pick up the slack for him, and was much more interactive with the crowd. Gene and Eric were ok. i think Paul must have been sick.

What i learned tonight is that when Paul is not in form, energy- wise, this band suffers. He is the leader, without a doubt.
A couple sitting next to us were at the first show, checking off a bucket list item. They enjoyed it, but i let them know that this was not typical Kiss show.

The first verse of American woman was played, plus a few comments about other Canadian bands like Chilliwack.

If i hadnt seen this band play with as much fire and energy as i have ever seen two weeks ago in Newfoundland, I'd actually be concernd, but i can chuck this one up to an off night.

Still a well done show, but it felt like a " go throught the motions" performance, the worst I've seen.

Tommy was the man tonight.
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Kiss played a great show, very entertaining. The casino crowd was VERY LAME. I would estimate that 15% of the total crowd came to rock out. Most of the crowd sat silently for the whole show . KISS was giving off so much energy and the crowd hardly gave anything back. I just thats what happens when the Casino gives away free tickets to non-fans that would rather be at their slot machines.
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Found this review :

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Concert Review: KISS
Casino Rama - July 26, 2011

By Jane Stevenson, QMI Agency


Seventies rock veterans KISS played Casino Rama on Tuesday night, July 26, 2011, as part of their Hottest Show On Earth Tour.

It’s just another day at work for KISS singer-bassist turned reality TV star Gene Simmons.

The rocker proposed to longtime Canadian love Shannon Tweed on his A&E series, Gene Simmons’ Family Jewels in an episode that aired Tuesday night.

Then he donned seven-inch heels, black leather and studs, spandex, black-and-white face makeup and took to the stage for a sold out crowd at Casino Rama.

Simmons brought original singer-guitarist Paul Stanley, current lead guitarist Tommy Thayer (Ace Frehley left in 2002) and current drummer Eric Singer (Peter Criss left in 2003) along with him.

Slightly later in the evening, the marriage-phobic Simmons could be seen finally popping the question (it was actually filmed a couple of months ago) in Belize to Tweed, his girlfriend of 28 years and the mother of his two grown children, with her answer still up in the air.

But of course.


Simmons, now 61, is nothing if not a master marketer.

As for the Casino Rama concert, the band played on an impressive, if streamlined stage, with the giant white lights of the KISS logo looming large.

They were first seen approaching via backstage video while a giant black KISS flag unfurled on stage heralding their arrival with plenty of pyro, four video screens, and speakers putting a fine point on it for the opening song, Modern Day Delilah.

“So we couldn’t make it to Toronto,” said Stanley, 59. “But we wanted to get close. You all feel like family to us.”

I guess that meant Stanley could give the audience heck after a couple of songs, Let Me Go Rock N Roll and Firehouse, with Simmons doing his usual fire-eating routine at the end of the latter, and also entertaining mightily during Deuce.

“Y’all look like your sitting down and watching TV. If it’s rock n’ roll, standup!” he said. “Man, I don’t mind doing the work, but y’all gotta stick with us.”

Truthfully, the Hottest Show on Earth seemed a bit tired, at times, maybe without Frehley and Criss in the lineup, and given this is the second leg of the tour maybe Simmons and Stanley really are tired.

Thayer, who sang lead on Shock Me, and Singer both delivered impressive solos about midway through the show with Simmons and Stanley leaving the stage - possibly to lie down? - which included Thayer firing pyro out of his guitar and Singer doing likewise out of a bazooka looking device.

When Simmons and Stanley returned they seemed more energized on I Love It Loud, Love Gun, and God of Thunder with Simmons doing his usual schtick, spitting blood and looking like a deranged Japanese samurai.

Stanley had his moment in the spotlight too on Black Diamond playing a bit of Led Zeppelin’s Stairway To Heaven in the intro before saying: “You don’t want me to play that? Say no, Paul!” and then giving the crowd a hard time once again for not being responsive enough: “Can you do a little bit better than that?”

The group closed with plenty of pyro and Detroit Rock City and Singer’s drum kit rising into the air before returning with an encore that began with Singer coming out from behind his kit to sing lead on Beth.

It wasn’t his finest moment, let’s just say.

Then Stanley inexplicably began doing a bit of The Guess Who’s American Woman before forgetting some of the lyrics - “What are the words?” he said - before finally launching into the KISS anthem, Lick It Up, that also mysteriously ended with a bit of The Who’s Won’t Get Fooled Again right down to Moon’s drum rolls.

Pacing seemed to be an issue late in the game.

Much better were the last two songs of the night, Shout It Out Loud and Rock And Roll All Nite, with plenty of white confetti showering the audience amid fireworks and firebursts, and Simmons, Thayer and Singer rising up on platforms, during the latter tune.

SET LIST

Modern Day Delilah

Let Me Go, Rock ‘N’ Roll

Firehouse

Deuce

Do You Love Me

Calling Dr. Love

Shock Me

I Love It Loud

Love Gun

God of Thunder

Black Diamond

Detroit Rock City

ENCORE:

Beth

Lick It Up

Shout It Out Loud

Rock And Roll All Nite
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Without a doubt the lamest crowd I have ever seen at a KISS show, but I still really enjoyed the performance. Casino Rama is a nice venue and if everyone there were KISS fans it would have been amazing, instead of the only fans being in the front, having everyone in the back just sit down.
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Are they releasing live CDs from this leg of the tour?

If so, this may be one to skip ordering!
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No More Say Yeah? well they should add Flaming Youth. :D
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KISSINWPG wrote:No More Say Yeah? well they should add Flaming Youth. :D
They're doing what they've always done(which imo is wrong),cutting songs as the tour goes on or at the smaller venues.Just because a place only holds 5000 doesn't mean they should get a shorter show,no matter what the contract says :!: The smaller venues or shows later in the tour should have the same show as the rest of the tour.Notwithstanding,I do ubderstand that a festival show is altogether different and will usually be shorter......
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I think it is because of Paul. There was something really off with him at Orillia. Not sure what Windsor was like.
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RisingForce wrote:Found this review :

http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Artists/K/Kis ... 74216.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Concert Review: KISS
Casino Rama - July 26, 2011

By Jane Stevenson, QMI Agency

Seventies rock veterans KISS played Casino Rama on Tuesday night, July 26, 2011, as part of their Hottest Show On Earth Tour.

Simmons brought original singer-guitarist Paul Stanley, current lead guitarist Tommy Thayer (Ace Frehley left in 2002) and current drummer Eric Singer (Peter Criss left in 2003) along with him.

“So we couldn’t make it to Toronto,” said Stanley, 59. “But we wanted to get close. You all feel like family to us.”

I guess that meant Stanley could give the audience heck after a couple of songs, Let Me Go Rock N Roll and Firehouse...

“Y’all look like your sitting down and watching TV. If it’s rock n’ roll, standup!” he said. “Man, I don’t mind doing the work, but y’all gotta stick with us.”

Truthfully, the Hottest Show on Earth seemed a bit tired, at times, maybe without Frehley and Criss in the lineup, and given this is the second leg of the tour maybe Simmons and Stanley really are tired.

Stanley had his moment in the spotlight too on Black Diamond playing a bit of Led Zeppelin’s Stairway To Heaven in the intro before saying: “You don’t want me to play that? Say no, Paul!” and then giving the crowd a hard time once again for not being responsive enough: “Can you do a little bit better than that?”

...an encore that began with Singer coming out from behind his kit to sing lead on Beth.

It wasn’t his finest moment, let’s just say.

Then Stanley inexplicably began doing a bit of The Guess Who’s American Woman before forgetting some of the lyrics - “What are the words?” he said - before finally launching into the KISS anthem, Lick It Up, that also mysteriously ended with a bit of The Who’s Won’t Get Fooled Again right down to Moon’s drum rolls.

Pacing seemed to be an issue late in the game.
Today's (Thursday) TORONTO SUN had the print version of this review with one photo of Gene and Paul.

Have to say that I have hated Jane Stevenson's writing for years and years but I am sure her opinion about this show was accurate.

Unfortunately I think we're gonna start seeing more reviews like this.
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I think the tour is done now ? Only one show left?
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That review RF posted is quite harsh. But if the band seemed to go through the motions (like during the PC and Farewell Tours) rather than being truthfully there + Paul sounding bad and not being his best, no wonder.

Also, I agree that the band has too often altered their setlist (for the worst) during a tour... Say Yeah and Cold Gin aren't really the songs that should have been dropped, but something else should have been added.