What is Alice Cooper's Worst Album?

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What is Alice Cooper's Worst Album?

Love it to death
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Killer
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School's out
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Billion dollar Babies
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Muscle of love
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Welcome to my Nightmare
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Alice Cooper Goes to Hell
1
4%
Lace and Whiskey
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8%
From the inside
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Flush the Fashion
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4%
Special forces
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Zipper catches skin
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16%
Dada
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8%
Constrictor
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No votes
Raise your fist
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12%
Trash
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20%
Hey Stoopid
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Last temptation
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Brutal planet
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4%
Dragontown
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Eyes of Alice
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Dirty Diamonds
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Along came a Spider
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8%
Welcome 2 my Nightmare
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12%
Paranormal
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4%
 
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Destroyer72 wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:06 pm We've chatted about his best.. But what about the worst?


I'm going with Alice Cooper Goes To Hell..

That album should be hit for false advertising.. from the cool cover, the title and the title track.. to fall to such an abysmal death spiral of disco, schmaltz, pathetic crooning... Just horrible. 💩

I remember how shocked I was when I first listened to this. Easily his worst, imo.

What say you?
I love the entire album except, perhaps, 'Wake Me Gently' which I still like. It's got a groovy, funky, laid back sophisticated sort of vibe and I like it's sense of humour. 'I Never Cry' is one of his best ballads IMO.

I think I like it for all the reasons you don't. :D
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LordThurisaz wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:31 pm The first two, Dirty Diamonds, Eyes of, Paranormal, and Detroit Stories.
I love DD... Except that crap rap thing at the end.
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Anything from The Eyes Of AC on.
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The first one, obviously. Pretties For You, 1969. They didn’t know what they were doing.

Cooper solo? Never been able to get into Zipper Catches Skin.

Eyes of Alice Cooper, Along Came a Spider and Paranormal are just totally unmemorable.
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The debut and Pretties For You is useless to the discography.

After that, I'd say Lace and Whiskey, Special Forces (I mean...the album has live tracks of old songs on it, c'mon), Zipper Catches Skin, Constrictor, Raise Your Fist and Yell are mediocre to full on bad. I don't like Trash, but it isn't a bad record.

Along Came A Spider is sadly rough and Welcome 2 My Nightmare is probably his worst album, overall.

So yeah.

To the OP, Goes To Hell is one of Alice's best, though. It's a great album with a lot of variety, fun, darkness and light.
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SaintN'Sinner83 wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:13 am The debut and Pretties For You is useless to the discography.

After that, I'd say Lace and Whiskey, Special Forces (I mean...the album has live tracks of old songs on it, c'mon), Zipper Catches Skin, Constrictor, Raise Your Fist and Yell are mediocre to full on bad. I don't like Trash, but it isn't a bad record.

Along Came A Spider is sadly rough and Welcome 2 My Nightmare is probably his worst album, overall.

So yeah.

To the OP, Goes To Hell is one of Alice's best, though. It's a great album with a lot of variety, fun, darkness and light.
A live track, not multiple tracks. That said, most of those albums are good to awesome, not "mediocre to full on bad." Paranormal is full on bad.
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A live track that sounds like a fake live track. To be honest, I’ve never cared for that song in any form. The La, la, da, da, da part kills it for me.

I enjoy all those “mediocre to full on bad” albums - especially the ones listed from the blackout era. Constrictor is cheesy but a lot of fun. I have nothing bad to say about Raise Your Fist and Yell.

Goes to Hell is a classic. I love the variety show approach.
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Black Ace wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:26 am A live track that sounds like a fake live track. To be honest, I’ve never cared for that song in any form.

I enjoy all those “mediocre to full on bad” albums - especially the ones listed from the blackout era. Constrictor is cheesy but a lot of fun. I have nothing bad to say about Raise Your Fist and Yell.

Goes to Hell is a classic. I love the variety show approach.
I love when people complain about Goes to Hell, about it being too varied, not enough "rock," and so on. It is meant to. Rock isn't Alice's idea of hell; disco is. As for his stuff from Flush the Fashion to Fist, I think it is all pretty entertaining, which is sort of the point. The bulk of his output post Dragontown mostly isn't entertaining. I enjoy Spider and Welcome 2, but mainly because he is going for a concept again, and experimenting, respectively.
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LordThurisaz wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:39 am I love when people complain about Goes to Hell, about it being too varied, not enough "rock," and so on. It is meant to. Rock isn't Alice's idea of hell; disco is. As for his stuff from Flush the Fashion to Fist, I think it is all pretty entertaining, which is sort of the point. The bulk of his output post Dragontown mostly isn't entertaining. I enjoy Spider and Welcome 2, but mainly because he is going for a concept again, and experimenting, respectively.
The styles vary but the songs are good. I’m not an authority on disco but Alice’s take is at least fun. To be honest, though, I usually skip past that song.
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Black Ace wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:51 am The styles vary but the songs are good. I’m not an authority on disco but Alice’s take is at least fun. To be honest, though, I usually skip past that song.
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LordThurisaz wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:40 am
Black Ace wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:51 am The styles vary but the songs are good. I’m not an authority on disco but Alice’s take is at least fun. To be honest, though, I usually skip past that song.
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I am shocked and amazed at how many Goes to Hell fans there are on this board.

I mean I am literally shaking.. lol

I tried listening to it again. I just can't get through some of the songs. They're not all bad. A few catchy ditties. But the joke wears thin for me pretty quickly and the songs just aren't there.

5/10
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Destroyer72 wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:40 am I am shocked and amazed at how many Goes to Hell fans there are on this board.

I mean I am literally shaking.. lol

I tried listening to it again. I just can't get through some of the songs. They're not all bad. A few catchy ditties. But the joke wears thin for me pretty quickly and the songs just aren't there.

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Black Ace wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:30 pm
Destroyer72 wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:40 am I am shocked and amazed at how many Goes to Hell fans there are on this board.

I mean I am literally shaking.. lol

I tried listening to it again. I just can't get through some of the songs. They're not all bad. A few catchy ditties. But the joke wears thin for me pretty quickly and the songs just aren't there.

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Outside of the bizarre shitstorm of those first two records and the post-Dragontown stuff, I'd agree that Goes to Hell is steaming pile of bullshit. I know there are many people who love it, but I think DaDa is horrid as well.
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I guess a bunch of us hate DaDa. I love ❤ that record! 😆
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I added a poll. I had to leave off three albums because of only 25 options max. So I left off the first two and the last one.
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Welp, doesn't matter what anyone's said. Whichever wins the poll is worst album. 😂
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LordThurisaz wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:39 am
Black Ace wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:26 am A live track that sounds like a fake live track. To be honest, I’ve never cared for that song in any form.

I enjoy all those “mediocre to full on bad” albums - especially the ones listed from the blackout era. Constrictor is cheesy but a lot of fun. I have nothing bad to say about Raise Your Fist and Yell.

Goes to Hell is a classic. I love the variety show approach.
I love when people complain about Goes to Hell, about it being too varied, not enough "rock," and so on. It is meant to. Rock isn't Alice's idea of hell; disco is. As for his stuff from Flush the Fashion to Fist, I think it is all pretty entertaining, which is sort of the point. The bulk of his output post Dragontown mostly isn't entertaining. I enjoy Spider and Welcome 2, but mainly because he is going for a concept again, and experimenting, respectively.
I think maybe it just comes down to your entry point. Seems like there are a number of people here who discovered Cooper via albums like Constrictor, Raise Your Fist & Yell, Brutal Planet, etc. I suppose they might see the metal style as definitive. I came in during the early-mid 70's so albums like Goes To Hell, Welcome To My Nightmare and Lace & Whiskey didn't faze me at all. To me, THAT is Cooper.

All I know is I love Goes To Hell. Even more than WTMN. I think the tracks do a better job of telling the Steven story than its predecessor.
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Yea Gth isn't phenomenal, but is it really worse than Special Forces or Zipper? No way
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Gun to my head - I chose Welcome 2 My Nightmare.

Dreadful.
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SaintN'Sinner83 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:50 pm Gun to my head - I chose Welcome 2 My Nightmare.

Dreadful.
That one is bad.. he totally wasted a good opportunity to do a proper sequel.

Sometimes I think Bob Ezrin is a bad influence. He steers in the wrong directions sometimes.
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KissJJM wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:12 pm Yea Gth isn't phenomenal, but is it really worse than Special Forces or Zipper? No way
In my opinion it is.

For me, it's just the total let down of it all. Those cheesy, schmaltzy songs.
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KissJJM wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:12 pm Yea Gth isn't phenomenal, but is it really worse than Special Forces or Zipper? No way
I rather enjoy those albums.
muzik_guy wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:14 am I think maybe it just comes down to your entry point. Seems like there are a number of people here who discovered Cooper via albums like Constrictor, Raise Your Fist & Yell, Brutal Planet, etc. I suppose they might see the metal style as definitive. I came in during the early-mid 70's so albums like Goes To Hell, Welcome To My Nightmare and Lace & Whiskey didn't faze me at all. To me, THAT is Cooper.

All I know is I love Goes To Hell. Even more than WTMN. I think the tracks do a better job of telling the Steven story than its predecessor.
I came in through movie soundtracks, such as Scream and Friday the 13th 6, so I was aware that Alice experimented. I like both quite a bit, and think that GTH is meant as a prequel to WTMN if I'm not mistaken.
Destroyer72 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:28 pm That one is bad.. he totally wasted a good opportunity to do a proper sequel.

Sometimes I think Bob Ezrin is a bad influence. He steers in the wrong directions sometimes.
Sometimes?

It already had a prequel or sequel.
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Destroyer72 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:28 pmSometimes I think Bob Ezrin is a bad influence. He steers in the wrong directions sometimes.
Album sequels almost always suck.

Bob can be a bad influence, sometimes. I feel he got better with the last two Alice albums, though.

And he's been steering Deep Purple for the right direction - 3 albums in a row, I'd say.
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Destroyer72 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:03 am Also we can't include Pretties for You or Easy Action because everyone would pick those. Lol
I just listened to Easy Action the other day... I've got an OG vinyl copy of it.

I didn't have any issues with it.
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You know.

I honestly haven't heard them all.

I got no good answer.
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I didn't even have to think about this one. It's easily "Lace and Whiskey".
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How many here have actually listened to the entire catalog?
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Black Ace wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:35 am How many here have actually listened to the entire catalog?
I have. (The first two do not count.)
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Why vote on Trash? For being sell out or what...

Its ridiculous.. Its like people says "I was made for lovin you", "Nothing can keep me from you" , or "Hold me touch me" are the worst in the Kiss catalog..

Raise your fist sucks.. I have not heard the last one(only one track, which I didnt like..
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I don't get why people vote Trash either. Easily his best album of the 80s.

Alice finally came roaring back after all those years of being left for dead.

So I'm guessing they would've preferred he languish in near total obscurity?
Poison, House of Fire, Spark in the Dark, Bed of Nails... How could anyone in their right mind hate this?
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Destroyer72 wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:10 pm I think Hey Stoopid is a better album as well. The songs are better written and arranged.

But I'm not gonna hate on Trash either. Alice needed that album. He needed that top 10 gold single. The big tour, the press again. After all those years of being out of it.

If not for Trash, Alice may have retired ,🤷‍♂️
Originally long ago, I used like Trash more. But as time went on I really came to enjoy and downright love a lot of the deep cuts/album tracks outside of the 2-3 hit songs on the album like Hey Stoopid, Love's A Loaded Gun and Feed My Frankenstein. Songs like Might As Well Be On Mars, Dangerous Tonight, Snakebite, Dirty Dreams, Hurricane Years, Little By Little are all great underappreciated songs but the 3 songs on here I NEVER tire of would easily be Burning Our Bed (my all time favorite "breakup" song of his...plus it holds a painful bit of lyrics in there that I can directly relate to at one point as well.), Die For You and Wind-Up Toy. Honestly do find it to be the better album of the two, and I really do like Trash as well. If I had to rank his "Hair Metal" albums it'd be:

1. Constrictor
2. Hey Stoopid
3. Raise Your Fist And Yell
4. Trash

It ultimately came down to me not quite enjoying a couple of tracks on Trash (the title track and This Maniac's In Love With You) and Raise Your Fist And Yell (Give The Radio Back, Not That Kind Of Love) that lower the other two albums by a friggin' hair compared to the others where I more or less love/enjoy every track on the album...even if I am FAR more played out on Feed My Frankenstein then I am on Poison...brilliant track for sure and its a total classic in my books. Too bad that House Of Fire and Spark In The Dark didn't achieve the same status as well. Arguably listen to those songs more on that album then the others.

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If anyone's voting Trash on grounds it was a sell out or whatever.. Then your idea of criticizing me thinking Goes to Hell is awful is totally null and void. Lol
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Jordvan123 wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:57 pm
Destroyer72 wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:10 pm I think Hey Stoopid is a better album as well. The songs are better written and arranged.

But I'm not gonna hate on Trash either. Alice needed that album. He needed that top 10 gold single. The big tour, the press again. After all those years of being out of it.

If not for Trash, Alice may have retired ,🤷‍♂️
Originally long ago, I used like Trash more. But as time went on I really came to enjoy and downright love a lot of the deep cuts/album tracks outside of the 2-3 hit songs on the album like Hey Stoopid, Love's A Loaded Gun and Feed My Frankenstein. Songs like Might As Well Be On Mars, Dangerous Tonight, Snakebite, Dirty Dreams, Hurricane Years, Little By Little are all great underappreciated songs but the 3 songs on here I NEVER tire of would easily be Burning Our Bed (my all time favorite "breakup" song of his...plus it holds a painful bit of lyrics in there that I can directly relate to at one point as well.), Die For You and Wind-Up Toy. Honestly do find it to be the better album of the two, and I really do like Trash as well. If I had to rank his "Hair Metal" albums it'd be:

1. Constrictor
2. Hey Stoopid
3. Raise Your Fist And Yell
4. Trash

It ultimately came down to me not quite enjoying a couple of tracks on Trash (the title track and This Maniac's In Love With You) and Raise Your Fist And Yell (Give The Radio Back, Not That Kind Of Love) that lower the other two albums by a friggin' hair compared to the others where I more or less love/enjoy every track on the album...even if I am FAR more played out on Feed My Frankenstein then I am on Poison...brilliant track for sure and its a total classic in my books. Too bad that House Of Fire and Spark In The Dark didn't achieve the same status as well. Arguably listen to those songs more on that album then the others.

I could debate AC on here all day just as much as I could KISS. Sabbath too.

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It's been downhill since Hey stoopid. That was a great album, but after that...
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Haven't listened to the recent stuff enough. From the 70s I think Lace and Whisky was the worst. Sappy ballad, cruddy disco beats