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Tommyr wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:15 am
jannep17 wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:09 am Why he plays DRC, Strutter and Deuce is beyond me.
He likes them. He's said in the past his favorite Kiss song is Deuce.
He auditioned with deuce, so I totally get that one... it always slays... but he should lose DRC for sure, for Rock Soldiers, at least. Alice has 80's fans that would recognize it.
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KingOfHearts89 wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:35 am
TheKISSProject7312 wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:12 am
KingOfHearts89 wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:50 am Saw the beginning on Youtube.... If you're going to open with that sort of a tape intro you have to start playing as soon as it's over. Same when Gene did the Radioactive intro then paused before starting with Deuce. The whole point of the tape is to increase the excitement levels up. The break just destroys that.
Agreed. Basic stagecraft that it seems impossible two guys who were/are in... checks notes... KISS could fuck up.
Well it would be like the whole 'You wanted the best, you got the best' and then just nothing :lol: Might just be first night confusion, but then why would someone come on stage to introduce Ace too?
Lara, the current girlfriend, actually broadcast, on facebook live, some cool footage of Ace leaving his hotel (looked like a condo) for the stage... you can hear the intro music for it. They offered him a go cart to give him a ride, but he wanted to walk. I'm not sure if that made him late, but someone clearly fired up the music before he left his room. It was a short walk... but a first night misfire, I'd say.
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Opening with Rocket Ride = amazing.

Rest of the set list = meh.
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The solo for Strutter wasn’t even close to the classic one. Why bother?
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Definitely a Disappointing Setlist!
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Never mind.
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I can't lie, that is a shockingly boring setlist. "Rocket Ride", "Parasite", "New York Groove", "Shock Me" and "Cold Gin" are the only ones that make sense to me. OK sure, play one from Origins Vol. 2 since it's the current album. The rest? PLEASE replace with any of the following: "Rip It Out", "2000 Man", "Rock Soldiers", "Breakout", "Insane", "Trouble Walkin'", "Into The Void", "Sister", "Space Invader", "Rockin' With The Boys".
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TheSpoiler wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:26 am
metalfuel wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:52 am NOTHING of his solo stuff, it's just KISS and covers!?
Ace has become a Kiss cover band. That's a boring setlist even for the hardcore Frehley fans.
Maybe Tommy needs to teach him some Ace Frehley solo songs next.
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This is the setlist I would push for. The whole casual argument is a farce. Look up Alice Cooper’s setlist.

Ace Frehley Setlist
Mixture of his Kiss and solo material.

Rip It Out
Shot Full Of Rock
Insane
Outer Space
Cold Gin
Space Invader
Bronx Boy
Rocket Ride
Rock Soldiers
New York Groove
Shock Me
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It’s not an Ace crowd so I can see having a lot of Kiss songs, but he should add a few more solo songs, especially Rip it Out.
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Did Ace and Alice come out first and flip a coin to see who would go first?
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I can understand the set list. He is opening for Alice. Your Kiss songs he is playing are some of his great guitar solos from Kiss and as for the covers Origins Vol 2 was his last release so he is promoting that. Glad to see him back on the stage. If he does some solo shows I am sure he will add some songs from his other albums.
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He is playing to mostly Alice fans and the aren't going to know his solo stuff for the most part. Is it what I would want to see it the setlist, no but it is understandable. I read some of these comments and people act like he has committed a crime by playing classic songs that he was part of recording. It's ridiculous, it's a show which is supposed to be a fun event. Kiss has done the same puzzling set list for a long long time, either you go or you stay home. At this point, there are no surprises.
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Hmmm...he should be promoting Ace solo material. I guess he wants back in Kiss badly!
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I'm a fan of Ace Frehley the solo artist, because he has put out some really great records.

I'm not a fan of Ace Frehley butchering Kiss classics.

But, I also was at a show where he opened with Gimme A Feelin' and Toys...and the crowd went dead. They just wanted to hear the old stuff... I did too, but that old stuff was on Anomaly. :)

I have no need to attend this show.
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I like Ace for his KISS solos and guitar playing. Some of the best and memorable solos ever. So yes I’d like to hear KISS songs that he can display his best solo guitar playing.
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KingOfHearts89 wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:38 am
KF73 wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:12 am
KingOfHearts89 wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:50 am Saw the beginning on Youtube.... If you're going to open with that sort of a tape intro you have to start playing as soon as it's over. Same when Gene did the Radioactive intro then paused before starting with Deuce. The whole point of the tape is to increase the excitement levels up. The break just destroys that.
Yeah, just finally saw the video. That massive pause doesn't make sense, does it? Technical glitch?

I'm surprised he didn't throw out a few more tunes. Alice usually only plays about 70 minutes so it's not like time is at a premium. Would have been nice to a get a few more from his '78 solo.
I though so too, but having someone announce Ace on stage too just didn't make much sense...

I think Alice is playing longer now, check out his setlist it's 20* songs - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/alice-co ... c5eb6.html

*25 if you count the solos, instrumentals and Brick in the Wall snippet in Schools Out.
I have seen Alice thirteen times. His set lists look longer than they really are because they are shorter songs. I last saw him November 2019 and he played about 20 songs with all of the solos and theatrics. It was around 75 minutes and that was with no opening act.
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So Cruel wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:27 am It’s not an Ace crowd so I can see having a lot of Kiss songs, but he should add a few more solo songs, especially Rip it Out.

Rip It Out is always a great opener and I'll miss it. Love he's opening with Rocket Ride though.
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This is Ace tailoring his set for Alice fans, while trying to sell his latest covers record. It makes sense. If the crowd recognizes most of the songs, they will pay more attention. I don't think this setlist is the end of the world.
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Ace Frehley setlist (9/18/21)

01. Rocket Ride (KISS song)
02. Parasite (KISS song)
03. Strutter (KISS song)
04. She (KISS song)
05. Manic Depression (JIMI HENDRIX cover)
06. Never In My Life (MOUNTAIN cover)
07. Good Times Bad Times (LED ZEPPELIN cover)
08. Detroit Rock City (KISS song)
09. New York Groove (RUSS BALLARD cover)
10. Shock Me (KISS song)
11. Cold Gin / Black Diamond (KISS songs)
12. Deuce (KISS song)
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I guess you have to be there to see if it works, but a medley of songs that are covers kinda calls out the notion that he’s playing to casuals who need to hear KISS songs
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Opening for Alice Cooper, he probably wanted to play some stuff that people were familiar with. It's a little disappointing though. I'm seeing him in a couple of weeks and was hoping for a good mix of KISS & solo material.
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Rocket ride kicked ass great opener Ace !
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aceeg wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:27 pm Rocket ride kicked ass great opener Ace !
How do you feel about the set list for the show?
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misterhand80 wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:33 pm
aceeg wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:27 pm Rocket ride kicked ass great opener Ace !
How do you feel about the set list for the show?
I think he should do a Kiss medley and more solo stuff of Trouble walking through Spaceman, Origins...
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Ps his last solo band was Better these guys sound bad...
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Ace was an integral part of Kiss. His solos and "voice" are all over every Kiss song he recorded.

I have no issue with him playing any Kiss song he recorded, regardless of who is credited as the songwriter.
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aceeg wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:47 pm Ps his last solo band was Better these guys sound bad...
I haven't seen his current band live yet, but any one of them would have to be an improvement over Richie Scarlet.
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KF73 wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:47 am Not a bad little set last night from Ace. A few more tunes would have been nice but a nice mix. I like the opening with Rocket Ride.

Also spach Zarathustra (tape into)
Rocket Ride
Parasite
Strutter
She
Manic Depression
Never in My Life
Good Times Bad Times
Detroit Rock City
New York Groove
Shock Me
Cold Gin / Black Diamond
Deuce

From setlist.fm: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/ace-freh ... c5eb4.html
He needs to drop Black Diamond, Detroit Rock City, She, Strutter, Deuce, Parasite.

Disappointing set list
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Ace is playing Strutter on Facebook right now
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Not a single original song from his only platinum solo album, his '78 solo, is absolutely ridiculous. And not a single song off any solo albums afterwards. Spoils is right, Ace is now a Kiss cover band.

Hate to say it, but it's kind of obvious Ace is "auditioning."
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He should at the very least be playing Rock Soldiers.
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redinthesky wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:48 pm Not a single original song from his only platinum solo album, his '78 solo, is absolutely ridiculous. And not a single song off any solo albums afterwards. Spoils is right, Ace is now a Kiss cover band.

Hate to say it, but it's kind of obvious Ace is "auditioning."
Agree with the first bit, but not the second.

This is at least the third tour like this.
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battra wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:42 pm
redinthesky wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:48 pm Not a single original song from his only platinum solo album, his '78 solo, is absolutely ridiculous. And not a single song off any solo albums afterwards. Spoils is right, Ace is now a Kiss cover band.

Hate to say it, but it's kind of obvious Ace is "auditioning."
Agree with the first bit, but not the second.
Same.
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7 solo albums, and he doesn't play any of them ......

Disappointing.
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Well at least he’s playing live looks and sounds great!
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aceeg wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:35 pm Well at least he’s playing live looks and sounds great!
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He shouldn't be doing so many KISS songs. Who wants to hear Ace sing DRC? The guy can't SING anyway. Paul's voice is shot, and I'd rather hear him do DRC.
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GrapeApe64 wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:36 am He shouldn't be doing so many KISS songs. Who wants to hear Ace sing DRC? The guy can't SING anyway. Paul's voice is shot, and I'd rather hear him do DRC.
This is an ALICE COOPER show. Most of the people there are there to see ALICE. Ace is going to play more well known songs that these ALICE fans may know. Not obscure Ace tunes they may not know.
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GrapeApe64 wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:36 am He shouldn't be doing so many KISS songs. Who wants to hear Ace sing DRC? The guy can't SING anyway. Paul's voice is shot, and I'd rather hear him do DRC.
I haven't witnessed it to say with absolute certainty, but I would bet the house Ace isn't singing DRC...or Strutter, or Black Diamond, or She. I'm sure one of the other dudes in his band is singing them...which honestly makes me want to hear those songs even less. If Ace was singing them, there'd at least be something different and potentially interesting about them.
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Strange that Ace would play such an obscure song like Strutter, no one knows that one.
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I don't even think it's the full Black Diamond. From what I've seen, he usually just does the end breakdown/outro to it.
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Correct.
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GrapeApe64 wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:36 am He shouldn't be doing so many KISS songs. Who wants to hear Ace sing DRC? The guy can't SING anyway. Paul's voice is shot, and I'd rather hear him do DRC.
He doesn’t sing DRC.

He did sing it as an encore in the early 90s though. Or claimed to in a guitar magazine anyway. Said his voice was so much better and used that as an example.
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Have some pride in the solo songs that you wrote.
At least play ONE for Christ's sake.
The crowd expects you to play some (even the Alice fans).
You're on the bill as a solo artist.
Not "Ace Frehley: former KISS guitarist exclusively playing KISS songs and other cover songs you'll know ".
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Strutter and DRC are baffling to me, same with NO solo material? Disappointing.
Still, good to see him out, just an odd choice of songs, given his strong solo material.
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StillAlive wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:29 am The crowd expects you to play some (even the Alice fans).
Even the Alice fans? Like they know the difference. :lol:
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Avidfan wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:53 am Strutter and DRC are baffling to me, same with NO solo material? Disappointing.
Still, good to see him out, just an odd choice of songs, given his strong solo material.
Once again, this is an ALICE crowd. He knows it. Hence playing more well known Kiss songs.
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Tommyr wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:01 am
Avidfan wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:53 am Strutter and DRC are baffling to me, same with NO solo material? Disappointing.
Still, good to see him out, just an odd choice of songs, given his strong solo material.
Once again, this is an ALICE crowd. He knows it. Hence playing more well known Kiss songs.
Agreed.

How would he win over a crowd with his music?

Seriously dude.

His set list is not an Alice Cooper show.