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The one that says that Gene's has a cow tongue it's my favourite lol

edit: I just remembered that there is one here in Brazil saying that they imitated the makeup of the band Secos & Molhados :lol:
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I had a home ec teacher who swore he had a cow tongue grafted on and even got mad at me when I said that wasn't true, she was like "no! It actually IS true! It's not a myth, it's really true!"

A friend of mine said he had a bootleg live video where Gene farted into the mic on stage
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There's a guy who posts on Kiss videos on YouTube claiming they've been replaced multiple times with dopplegangers. That's the weirdest rumor I ever heard.
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That Peter Criss had been Ordained and was preaching the gospel somewhere out in California. This was a few years before he turned up on the cover of Star magazine as a homeless alcoholic.
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That KIϟϟ wanted to AND was going to replace Bruce Kulick on the REVENGE record, entirely ... with Vinnie Vincent. How do these hacks sleep at night?
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They replaced him with Dick Wagner on 8% of it so …
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The worst one is that Paul slept with his sister. Not sure how that one came to be. My favorite is the one that says they replaced peter with a doppelganger during a dynasty show and they dropped all the peter songs from the set that night.
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Kissoff wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:41 pm There's a guy who posts on Kiss videos on YouTube claiming they've been replaced multiple times with dopplegangers. That's the weirdest rumor I ever heard.
Got a link to that?
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The Knights in Satan’s Service rumor is a classic.
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TT714 wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:06 pm
Kissoff wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:41 pm There's a guy who posts on Kiss videos on YouTube claiming they've been replaced multiple times with dopplegangers. That's the weirdest rumor I ever heard.
Got a link to that?
I don't was quite awhile ago he was just a YT commenter goes by Caleb Prodtoins. A pretty bizarre dude.
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The one that Paul actually sings live on the EOTR tour is bizarre.
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Paul was closet gay
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Van Halen in 1980 was really KISS without the makeup.

Peter played the first half of the Palladium show, introduced Eric Carr and he sat behind the played the rest of the show.
(..of course we know that didn't happen).

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Peter living in a bin
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Bruce wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:52 pm That KIϟϟ wanted to AND was going to replace Bruce Kulick on the REVENGE record, entirely ... with Vinnie Vincent. How do these hacks sleep at night?
Really?
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steveh67 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:59 am Paul was closet gay
He said “rumors”. 8) I kid I kid!
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I know about three guys who swear they used to watch a KISS Saturday morning cartoon. I cannot convince them otherwise.
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- Paul is gay
- Ace is bi
- Vinnie was transitioning
- National Enquirer story about Peter being homeless
- Gene peeing on stage
- Gene spitting blood during the first show of the LIU tour
- Eric's death: That Gene and Paul cut off his insurance, fired him, etc.
- When Vinnie was fired after the LIU tour, he drove around Texas (I think) doing last-minute "in stores" trying to capitalize on being "Vinnie Vincent from KISS"
- Ace being broke today
- Mark St. John being fired because of Reiter's Syndrome (I think it was just an excuse to bring Bruce in)
- Gene saying he walked through the front door of MSG the first time they played there and walked through the crowd
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In 2001, there was a rumor that Mark St. John was going to rejoin the band. If my memory serves me correctly, he was also going to have his own makeup design.

In about 2002, there was a rumor that the band was going to take the makeup off again.
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southernkiss wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:31 am In 2001, there was a rumor that Mark St. John was going to rejoin the band. If my memory serves me correctly, he was also going to have his own makeup design.
I remember that. I believe his alleged character was going to be the "Specter".
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TT714 wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:05 pm
The worst one is that Stan slept with his sister. (...)
Yeah... That's the winner, for sure. :? :? :? :flower:
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I always thought it was interesting that a year before it actually happened, there was a rumor that Eric Singer was going to replace Peter Criss and wear the Catman makeup/costume.


I always wondered if the rumor was started by someone who actually knew this was a backup plan or if it's just one of those wild rumors that happened to come true.
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Homer Simpson wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:43 pm I always thought it was interesting that a year before it actually happened, there was a rumor that Eric Singer was going to replace Peter Criss and wear the Catman makeup/costume.


I always wondered if the rumor was started by someone who actually knew this was a backup plan or if it's just one of those wild rumors that happened to come true.
Gene, Paul, and Doc probably started talking about using Eric and Tommy in makeup around the time the Reunion started. They knew it would only last a few years and wanted KISS to continue with makeup. I would think someone in the know started to spread the news before it was ever officially announced.
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I heard a rumor that the current band once played a concert for sharks as a power trio...talk about nonsense! Who would actually do something that stupid?
















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Doose wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:44 am - Gene saying he walked through the front door of MSG the first time they played there and walked through the crowd
I’m thinking Ace has told a similar story. I’d totally do that if i were one of them, too, because who else could? As a comic book fan, the secret identity game must have been a kick for Gene especially — for awhile.

Doing it at MSG, that should be a scene in the Movie.
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KISSFACE wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:55 pm
Doose wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:44 am - Gene saying he walked through the front door of MSG the first time they played there and walked through the crowd
I’m thinking Ace has told a similar story. I’d totally do that if i were one of them, too, because who else could? As a comic book fan, the secret identity game must have been a kick for Gene especially — for awhile.

Doing it at MSG, that should be a scene in the Movie.
You're right, that's such a cinematic moment for a movie because it has so much subtext to it. Good call.
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Doose wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:44 am)Gene saying he walked through the front door of MSG the first time they played there and walked through the crowd
That’s so damn cool if true. Kiss was so unique back then with their hidden identity.
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joma5477 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:17 pm I heard a rumor that the current band once played a concert for sharks as a power trio...talk about nonsense! Who would actually do something that stupid?
















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False - there was 1 seagull & 2 dolphins
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TwistedTaste wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:48 pm
joma5477 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:17 pm I heard a rumor that the current band once played a concert for sharks as a power trio...talk about nonsense! Who would actually do something that stupid?
















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False - there was 1 seagull & 2 dolphins
Next there can be a show for penguins. The white bellies of the penguins could be painted in KISS makeup.
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southernkiss wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:02 pm
TwistedTaste wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:48 pm
joma5477 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:17 pm I heard a rumor that the current band once played a concert for sharks as a power trio...talk about nonsense! Who would actually do something that stupid?











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False - there was 1 seagull & 2 dolphins
Next there can be a show for penguins. The white bellies of the penguins could be painted in KISS makeup.
I always though Doc looked like Danny Devito in Batman, let’s paint him up
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TwistedTaste wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:08 pm
southernkiss wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:02 pm
TwistedTaste wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:48 pm
joma5477 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:17 pm I heard a rumor that the current band once played a concert for sharks as a power trio...talk about nonsense! Who would actually do something that stupid?











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False - there was 1 seagull & 2 dolphins
Next there can be a show for penguins. The white bellies of the penguins could be painted in KISS makeup.
I always though Doc looked like Danny Devito in Batman, let’s paint him up
Joker could wear KISS makeup, too! KISS should get back together with Marvel!
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southernkiss wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:10 pm
TwistedTaste wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:08 pm
southernkiss wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:02 pm
TwistedTaste wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:48 pm


False - there was 1 seagull & 2 dolphins
Next there can be a show for penguins. The white bellies of the penguins could be painted in KISS makeup.
I always though Doc looked like Danny Devito in Batman, let’s paint him up
Joker could wear KISS makeup, too! KISS should get back together with Marvel!
Catwoman could wear Peter’s makeup and Mr. Freeze could wear Ace’s makeup!
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When I was a kid in the ‘70s, one of the big KISS rumors was that KISS beat up Shaun Cassidy in his dressing room, and Peter Criss shoved his drumsticks down Shaun’s throat because he sang “Beth” without permission. Several friends were adamant that this really happened. :lol:
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There was a rumor that made the net (around 2001 or 02) that VH was
going to perform special shows in Japan with Paul as their lead singer.
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IIRC correctly, in approximately 1998, there was a rumor that Gene had died in a drug overdose.
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southernkiss wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:02 pm IIRC correctly, in approximately 1998, there was a rumor that Gene had died in a drug overdose.
Wasn't there speculation that the rumor was made up by Gene so he could dispel it and garner some cheap publicity? I seem to remember reading about Gene contacting a newspaper so say he was alive, but the newspaper reporting they never heard of the rumor.
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Homer Simpson wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:17 pm
southernkiss wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:02 pm IIRC correctly, in approximately 1998, there was a rumor that Gene had died in a drug overdose.
Wasn't there speculation that the rumor was made up by Gene so he could dispel it and garner some cheap publicity? I seem to remember reading about Gene contacting a newspaper so say he was alive, but the newspaper reporting they never heard of the rumor.
With as anti-drug as Gene is, I am not sure he would have done that. However, publicity equals money, so maybe he did.
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As a wee kid in the mid-80s I read Ace had died after falling from a stage structure. The article did say "lighting man" and who is shooting beams of light out of his eyes on the cover of RARO if not Ace? :)
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I read a rumour after the 'Unmasked' tour was over that the band had dropped the platform boots, Paul had cut his hair into a Fonz style quiff and would be dressing like a pirate, Gene was slicking his hair back and had a ponytail over one shoulder and Ace had a convict style crew cut. Not only that but they were working on a sci-fi concept album probably to be titled 'From The Earth's Core'...

I guess most of it was true!
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I heard that KISS stands for Knights in Senior’s Service.
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1) Gene actually being a successful "entrepreneur" outside of Kiss

2) Gene and Paul sitting down for a personal Q&A with author Ros Radley for his "Magic" book
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Mr. Speed wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:19 am 1) Gene actually being a successful "entrepreneur" outside of Kiss

2) Gene and Paul sitting down for a personal Q&A with author Ros Radley for his "Magic" book
Magic book? WTF is that? Magic is not real!
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Is the Gene spitting blood without make up rumor true?
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NYRockCity wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:36 am Is the Gene spitting blood without make up rumor true?
I think some people say he did on the first non makeup night in Portugal. I do not know if it has ever been officially confirmed or not.
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This one deserves it's own thread, but it's a blind item off of one of those gossip sites in 2017, based on a dark hidden history of Gene Simmons:

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017 ... n.html?m=1

MONDAY, DECEMBER 18, 2017

Today's Blind Items - The Monster Icon
This foreign born permanent A list entertainer has always had a shadowy reputation. Back in the day, he capitalized on it and it was part of his image. We'll call him Mr. C. What most people may not realize is that our entertainer's dark side wasn't just for publicity, it's really who he is. But to understand this, we have to look way back at Mr. C's childhood. He grew up in a different time and was exposed to some graphic life experiences that many of us can't imagine. Mr. C had a very dark side from a young age, and many kids in the neighborhood where he grew up quickly learned that he was a strange and twisted individual. Animals in the neighborhood kept disappearing and the kids our entertainer was alone with frequently suffered from unusual injuries. One story that has been told involved another boy. He and Mr. C were playing with plastic swords and somehow the other boy found himself stabbed through the eye with Mr. C's sword. Of course at the time, this was assumed to be an unintentional freak accident between two boys. The injured boy spent months in the hospital and lost his eye as a result. This is one of the many stories that have floated around about our entertainer and his growing up years. It got even more interesting when Mr. C got into his teen years and began attracting girls. He had a strange personal magnetism and although not conventionally handsome, could get girls to do pretty much whatever he wanted from a young age. This caused problems and at several points in his early teen years, police became involved due to complaints from the parents of neighborhood girls. There is also the story of the teenage girl, from Mr C's neighborhood, who died suspiciously. The death was eventually ruled a suicide, but chatter among the old 'hood has been filled for years with speculation that it was a sex game gone wrong or murder or both. Much has been written about Mr. C over the years and writers and filmmakers have attempted to talk to people in Mr. C's old neighborhood about his childhood. Old friends have been approached, and some of the responses have been dubious or the people just flat out refused to talk at all about our entertainer at all. The dubious responses, of course, were never published.

As he got older and became involved in the entertainment business, Mr. C's tendencies were actually in demand by many of those in power. Our entertainer would do anything, no matter how deviant, with anyone, to further his success. The more twisted, the better. During those years, media was not what it is today, so it was much easier to operate in the shadows with these tendencies and not be exposed. Mr. C's debauched and deviant lifestyle continued in the extreme as he became wealthier and more famous. His proclivities were an open secret and in some circles, the behavior was praised, encouraged and admired. As mass media has became the norm, Mr C. has had to ramp down his activities considerably, after several close calls with the police. Recently, an acclaimed investigative Journalist was approached by an individual with information about Mr C and his activities. The rumor is that the source is alleging that Mr C's pattern of travel to a number of cities many years ago corresponds to the disappearances of young women in those same cities. The source of this information has also told the Journalist that they attempted to bring these alleged connectionis knowledge to the attention of the authorities, and were brushed off as a crackpot. This source even tried to bring Mr C's past reputation and activities to the attention of a prestigious organization that was honoring him a few years ago, and they ignored the information also. Due to all the recent sex predators being exposed, Mr. C is on alert and is looking to cover his tracks. Lots of checks are being written to silence people. Watch for some diversionary gestures soon as clues. The Journalist is also pursuing this story hard right now because coincidentally, someone he knows also had a very frightening encounter with Mr. C. years ago. If anything is uncovered, this story is going to be huge.
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Cow Tongue wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:55 am This one deserves it's own thread, but it's a blind item off of one of those gossip sites in 2017, based on a dark hidden history of Gene Simmons:

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017 ... n.html?m=1

MONDAY, DECEMBER 18, 2017

Today's Blind Items - The Monster Icon
This foreign born permanent A list entertainer has always had a shadowy reputation. Back in the day, he capitalized on it and it was part of his image. We'll call him Mr. C. What most people may not realize is that our entertainer's dark side wasn't just for publicity, it's really who he is. But to understand this, we have to look way back at Mr. C's childhood. He grew up in a different time and was exposed to some graphic life experiences that many of us can't imagine. Mr. C had a very dark side from a young age, and many kids in the neighborhood where he grew up quickly learned that he was a strange and twisted individual. Animals in the neighborhood kept disappearing and the kids our entertainer was alone with frequently suffered from unusual injuries. One story that has been told involved another boy. He and Mr. C were playing with plastic swords and somehow the other boy found himself stabbed through the eye with Mr. C's sword. Of course at the time, this was assumed to be an unintentional freak accident between two boys. The injured boy spent months in the hospital and lost his eye as a result. This is one of the many stories that have floated around about our entertainer and his growing up years. It got even more interesting when Mr. C got into his teen years and began attracting girls. He had a strange personal magnetism and although not conventionally handsome, could get girls to do pretty much whatever he wanted from a young age. This caused problems and at several points in his early teen years, police became involved due to complaints from the parents of neighborhood girls. There is also the story of the teenage girl, from Mr C's neighborhood, who died suspiciously. The death was eventually ruled a suicide, but chatter among the old 'hood has been filled for years with speculation that it was a sex game gone wrong or murder or both. Much has been written about Mr. C over the years and writers and filmmakers have attempted to talk to people in Mr. C's old neighborhood about his childhood. Old friends have been approached, and some of the responses have been dubious or the people just flat out refused to talk at all about our entertainer at all. The dubious responses, of course, were never published.

As he got older and became involved in the entertainment business, Mr. C's tendencies were actually in demand by many of those in power. Our entertainer would do anything, no matter how deviant, with anyone, to further his success. The more twisted, the better. During those years, media was not what it is today, so it was much easier to operate in the shadows with these tendencies and not be exposed. Mr. C's debauched and deviant lifestyle continued in the extreme as he became wealthier and more famous. His proclivities were an open secret and in some circles, the behavior was praised, encouraged and admired. As mass media has became the norm, Mr C. has had to ramp down his activities considerably, after several close calls with the police. Recently, an acclaimed investigative Journalist was approached by an individual with information about Mr C and his activities. The rumor is that the source is alleging that Mr C's pattern of travel to a number of cities many years ago corresponds to the disappearances of young women in those same cities. The source of this information has also told the Journalist that they attempted to bring these alleged connectionis knowledge to the attention of the authorities, and were brushed off as a crackpot. This source even tried to bring Mr C's past reputation and activities to the attention of a prestigious organization that was honoring him a few years ago, and they ignored the information also. Due to all the recent sex predators being exposed, Mr. C is on alert and is looking to cover his tracks. Lots of checks are being written to silence people. Watch for some diversionary gestures soon as clues. The Journalist is also pursuing this story hard right now because coincidentally, someone he knows also had a very frightening encounter with Mr. C. years ago. If anything is uncovered, this story is going to be huge.
Wasn’t there a girl that died/suicided in someone’s family’s furniture store or am I mixing up stories?
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That the Kiss radio only played Kiss songs.
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TwistedTaste wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:01 pm Wasn’t there a girl that died/suicided in someone’s family’s furniture store or am I mixing up stories?
Have to quote three pages of irrelevant text to ask that?

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A dude I went to junior high with was sure that Gene had a "sore" on the inside of his cheek that he bit every time he did the blood spitting thing.
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As Satanists, Satan himself whispered in their subconscious the Knights in Satan’s Service acronym. They then took his advice and picked that for their band name.
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