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So who is opening up for the upcoming EOTR tour?
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I thought it was DLR? I'm actually very happy because I've never seen him live. Going to the Tampa show. Saw the painter last time - was not impressed but I get it's a big opportunity for him so I sat thru it.
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Diamond Dave.

Although unfortunately I don’t believe he’ll be at AC.
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nibbler1982 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:11 am Diamond Dave.

Although unfortunately I don’t believe he’ll be at AC.
Correct I believe there is no opener in AC
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I saw DLR on the Eat 'em and Smile Tour, and it was a fantastic show. As much as I wondered if he still had the chops I still would have preferred him over the artist guy.

But that question is moot, I got this regarding our upcoming show.....wonder who it'll be now?

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The painter is back.
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WI KISSfan wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:27 am I saw DLR on the Eat 'em and Smile Tour, and it was a fantastic show. As much as I wondered if he still had the chops I still would have preferred him over the artist guy.

But that question is moot, I got this regarding our upcoming show.....wonder who it'll be now?

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The EEAS tour was absolutely incredible. What a beast of a band it was. Great times.

This is incredibly peculiar…

Dave had this on his website with a pic of the EOTR presser.
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I checked it out personally. It was pretty much EVERYTHING except Atlantic City. Now when I check the website for live dates I get this…
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Brewer wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:36 pm The painter is back.
I see your comment was a fact and not a pun or an opinion.

Yes, David Garibaldi is back. He’s on all the dates as per Ticketmaster.

Including Atlantic City.

Oh joy.
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Oh, no!! The return of The Painter!
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Dump the painter and add 3-4 songs!
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wjs296 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:55 pm Dump the painter and add 3-4 songs!
Agreed!! That would be a fantastic substitute for the painter.
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I must be one of the few who didn't want DLR. A win for me. Actually, I dug Garibaldi. Would I rather have a legit band open? Sure, but I am there to see Kiss above all else.
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-- Diamond Dave!!

Hopefully, he won't be singing this one ...
It would be kinda sad. No! Forget the 'kinda' part.
It would be unconditionally sad. But ... here?
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nibbler1982 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:37 pm
Brewer wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:36 pm The painter is back.
I see your comment was a fact and not a pun or an opinion.

Yes, David Garibaldi is back. He’s on all the dates as per Ticketmaster.

That’s why I said it. It’s already been confirmed on other boards.
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Brewer wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:31 pm
nibbler1982 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:37 pm
Brewer wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:36 pm The painter is back.
I see your comment was a fact and not a pun or an opinion.

Yes, David Garibaldi is back. He’s on all the dates as per Ticketmaster.

That’s why I said it. It’s already been confirmed on other boards.
People say a lot of things.

I don’t know your style and don’t regularly check out other boards.
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KF73 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:04 pm I must be one of the few who didn't want DLR. A win for me. Actually, I dug Garibaldi. Would I rather have a legit band open? Sure, but I am there to see Kiss above all else.
I enjoyed him as well. It takes a lot of skill, work and an eye to work from the negative space like he does.

Just imagine the uproar around here if it were Carrot Top opening.
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nibbler1982 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:38 pm I don’t know your style and don’t regularly check out other boards.
It shows, based on some of the nonsense you have clogged the board up with.
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Painter was entertaining.

DLR was great when he opened for KISS in Peoria.
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I didn’t mind seeing Garibaldi’s routine at the Corpus Christi gig I attended - it was a nice smaller indoor venue that worked to his favor. I’m not sure this plays as well on the GA lawn of the amphitheaters, though...I’d wager folks at those gigs would rather have a blast of Van Halen nostalgia.

That said, now that I have a $20 Live Nation ticket, I’d rather they just go with a 30-minute retrospective video leading into “An evening with KISS” type of setup for this leg. The fewer people needed (crew & talent) for the show, the better the chances of keeping COVID breakthroughs from derailing the tour.
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Brewer wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:42 pm
nibbler1982 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:38 pm I don’t know your style and don’t regularly check out other boards.
It shows, based on some of the nonsense you have clogged the board up with.
You were most likely equally incoherent in a previous incarnation.
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Should get these guys, best new stuff I've heard for ages

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nibbler1982 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:37 pm
Brewer wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:36 pm The painter is back.
I see your comment was a fact and not a pun or an opinion.

Yes, David Garibaldi is back. He’s on all the dates as per Ticketmaster.

Including Atlantic City.

Oh joy.
I was kinda bummed hearing Diamond Dave wouldn't be back, not because Garibaldi wasn't worth seeing once, I thought he was

But I saw Grand Rapids, Detroit & Cincinnati so I was kinda looking forward to a double dose of rock & roll from my youth with DLR playing some classic Van Halen followed by Gene & Paul with all those great Kiss tunes...Some of you lucky ones got to see that line up but I missed out on that one

Still excited for the Clarkston Pine Knob show 1st of September tho. More time to tailgate I guess!
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nibbler1982 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:37 pm
Brewer wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:36 pm The painter is back.
I see your comment was a fact and not a pun or an opinion.

Yes, David Garibaldi is back. He’s on all the dates as per Ticketmaster.

Including Atlantic City.

Oh joy.
Yeah on the vharchives website all the dates dave is out the question is yes the shows did fine with the painter the first time but will that be a turn off for fans wanting to see the band this time ?
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WI KISSfan wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:27 am I saw DLR on the Eat 'em and Smile Tour, and it was a fantastic show. As much as I wondered if he still had the chops I still would have preferred him over the artist guy.

But that question is moot, I got this regarding our upcoming show.....wonder who it'll be now?

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Wait, Roth isn't doing the Milwaukee show anymore?
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Painter? Fkkkk no!
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AxlisKing wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:44 pm
WI KISSfan wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:27 am I saw DLR on the Eat 'em and Smile Tour, and it was a fantastic show. As much as I wondered if he still had the chops I still would have preferred him over the artist guy.

But that question is moot, I got this regarding our upcoming show.....wonder who it'll be now?

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Wait, Roth isn't doing the Milwaukee show anymore?
Yep he is out all of the shows the painter is back
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They brought Dave out when the sales were dragging, now that people are hungry for live (taped) shows again post pandemic - they probably don’t need him. IMO they should be giving the people their money’s worth with a legitimate opening band
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Hotter Than Heck wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:12 pm
nibbler1982 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:37 pm
Brewer wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:36 pm The painter is back.
I see your comment was a fact and not a pun or an opinion.

Yes, David Garibaldi is back. He’s on all the dates as per Ticketmaster.

Including Atlantic City.

Oh joy.
I was kinda bummed hearing Diamond Dave wouldn't be back, not because Garibaldi wasn't worth seeing once, I thought he was

But I saw Grand Rapids, Detroit & Cincinnati so I was kinda looking forward to a double dose of rock & roll from my youth with DLR playing some classic Van Halen followed by Gene & Paul with all those great Kiss tunes...Some of you lucky ones got to see that line up but I missed out on that one

Still excited for the Clarkston Pine Knob show 1st of September tho. More time to tailgate I guess!
I can’t get enough of Diamond Dave. I never miss his solo shows and went to all the VH reunion shows. It was KILLER having him open. At least I got to see them together once in Allentown.
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highvoltage1969 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:05 pm Should get these guys, best new stuff I've heard for ages

Seems a little Greta Van Fleet.
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Tallbear13 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:15 pm
AxlisKing wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:44 pm
WI KISSfan wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:27 am I saw DLR on the Eat 'em and Smile Tour, and it was a fantastic show. As much as I wondered if he still had the chops I still would have preferred him over the artist guy.

But that question is moot, I got this regarding our upcoming show.....wonder who it'll be now?

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Wait, Roth isn't doing the Milwaukee show anymore?
Yep he is out all of the shows the painter is back
Great, I just bought tix mainly to see DLR...glad they were $20
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nibbler1982 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:37 pm
Brewer wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:36 pm The painter is back.
I see your comment was a fact and not a pun or an opinion.

Yes, David Garibaldi is back. He’s on all the dates as per Ticketmaster.

Including Atlantic City.

Oh joy.
Agreed. So glad I caught a show with Roth a few weeks before COVID hit. He made the whole concert more fun.
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What the hell, I was really looking forward to DLR. This sucks. I already saw the painter.... why do they do this? Its literally going to be the exact same show I already saw in 2019.
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Nosferatu1974 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:41 pm What the hell, I was really looking forward to DLR. This sucks. I already saw the painter.... why do they do this? Its literally going to be the exact same show I already saw in 2019.
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highvoltage1969 wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:05 pm Should get these guys, best new stuff I've heard for ages

Only two guys making some great tunes. I like it a lot.
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Ghost_of_Paul_Lynde wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 pm That said, now that I have a $20 Live Nation ticket, I’d rather they just go with a 30-minute retrospective video leading into “An evening with KISS” type of setup for this leg. The fewer people needed (crew & talent) for the show, the better the chances of keeping COVID breakthroughs from derailing the tour.
THIS exactly. I thought the same thing. Garibaldi requires much less crew.
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TwistedTaste wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:16 pm They brought Dave out when the sales were dragging, now that people are hungry for live (taped) shows again post pandemic - they probably don’t need him. IMO they should be giving the people their money’s worth with a legitimate opening band
I've said it before. No opening act period! Just "An Evening With Kiss" preceded by a short retro video. Would be cool if the did something like Metallica did in '92.
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KF73 wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:36 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:16 pm They brought Dave out when the sales were dragging, now that people are hungry for live (taped) shows again post pandemic - they probably don’t need him. IMO they should be giving the people their money’s worth with a legitimate opening band
I've said it before. No opening act period! Just "An Evening With Kiss" preceded by a short retro video. Would be cool if the did something like Metallica did in '92.
I think Kiss want people to buy merch during the painter.

Ace should be opening
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TwistedTaste wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:16 pm They brought Dave out when the sales were dragging, now that people are hungry for live (taped) shows again post pandemic - they probably don’t need him. IMO they should be giving the people their money’s worth with a legitimate opening band
Hang on a minute, there were enough people glorying in Kiss "needing someone like DLR to boost sales" when he was brought on board, now he's "not needed post pandemic", but elsewhere we have the whiners taking pleasure in slow sales on the upcoming leg.

Which anti-Kiss narrative is the right one this week? :lol:
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KF73 wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:36 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:16 pm They brought Dave out when the sales were dragging, now that people are hungry for live (taped) shows again post pandemic - they probably don’t need him. IMO they should be giving the people their money’s worth with a legitimate opening band
I've said it before. No opening act period! Just "An Evening With Kiss" preceded by a short retro video. Would be cool if the did something like Metallica did in '92.
It is strange Kiss decided to go out with their basic show with just some boost in the lightning department. It doesn't feel like a real farewell tour.
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It does to me. Keep expenses low and profits high. Give nothing away -- thats how to build a nest egg!
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TheSpoiler wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:53 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:16 pm They brought Dave out when the sales were dragging, now that people are hungry for live (taped) shows again post pandemic - they probably don’t need him. IMO they should be giving the people their money’s worth with a legitimate opening band
Hang on a minute, there were enough people glorying in Kiss "needing someone like DLR to boost sales" when he was brought on board, now he's "not needed post pandemic", but elsewhere we have the whiners taking pleasure in slow sales on the upcoming leg.

Which anti-Kiss narrative is the right one this week? :lol:
Such is the sad state of affairs I’m afraid
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TwistedTaste wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:19 am
TheSpoiler wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:53 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:16 pm They brought Dave out when the sales were dragging, now that people are hungry for live (taped) shows again post pandemic - they probably don’t need him. IMO they should be giving the people their money’s worth with a legitimate opening band
Hang on a minute, there were enough people glorying in Kiss "needing someone like DLR to boost sales" when he was brought on board, now he's "not needed post pandemic", but elsewhere we have the whiners taking pleasure in slow sales on the upcoming leg.

Which anti-Kiss narrative is the right one this week? :lol:
Such is the sad state of affairs I’m afraid
Well, which is accurate? If Kiss don't need DLR anymore because of covid, so they are "cheaping out" their fans, or are they dying on their ass out there as several will have us all believe? Because it can't be both.
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TheSpoiler wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:56 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:19 am
TheSpoiler wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:53 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:16 pm They brought Dave out when the sales were dragging, now that people are hungry for live (taped) shows again post pandemic - they probably don’t need him. IMO they should be giving the people their money’s worth with a legitimate opening band
Hang on a minute, there were enough people glorying in Kiss "needing someone like DLR to boost sales" when he was brought on board, now he's "not needed post pandemic", but elsewhere we have the whiners taking pleasure in slow sales on the upcoming leg.

Which anti-Kiss narrative is the right one this week? :lol:
Such is the sad state of affairs I’m afraid
Well, which is accurate? If Kiss don't need DLR anymore because of covid, so they are "cheaping out" their fans, or are they dying on their ass out there as several will have us all believe? Because it can't be both.
There aren’t any clear answers because of COVID. Some people are starving for events and others are cautious. Clearly sales were lagging toward the end of whatever leg the EOTR tour was going thru prior to COVID so it was said the promoters requested a legitimate opening band - enter Diamond Dave. A legit opener who wouldn’t threaten Paul’s “vocal sensitivities”
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TwistedTaste wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:02 am
TheSpoiler wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:56 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:19 am
TheSpoiler wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:53 am

Hang on a minute, there were enough people glorying in Kiss "needing someone like DLR to boost sales" when he was brought on board, now he's "not needed post pandemic", but elsewhere we have the whiners taking pleasure in slow sales on the upcoming leg.

Which anti-Kiss narrative is the right one this week? :lol:
Such is the sad state of affairs I’m afraid
Well, which is accurate? If Kiss don't need DLR anymore because of covid, so they are "cheaping out" their fans, or are they dying on their ass out there as several will have us all believe? Because it can't be both.
There aren’t any clear answers because of COVID. Some people are starving for events and others are cautious. Clearly sales were lagging toward the end of whatever leg the EOTR tour was going thru prior to COVID so it was said the promoters requested a legitimate opening band - enter Diamond Dave. A legit opener who wouldn’t threaten Paul’s “vocal sensitivities”
Doesn't answer the question. Are Kiss "cheaping out their fans" by dropping Diamond Dave because of healthy demand post covid, or are they dying out there as several gleefully claim?
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TheSpoiler wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:08 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:02 am
TheSpoiler wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:56 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:19 am

Such is the sad state of affairs I’m afraid
Well, which is accurate? If Kiss don't need DLR anymore because of covid, so they are "cheaping out" their fans, or are they dying on their ass out there as several will have us all believe? Because it can't be both.
There aren’t any clear answers because of COVID. Some people are starving for events and others are cautious. Clearly sales were lagging toward the end of whatever leg the EOTR tour was going thru prior to COVID so it was said the promoters requested a legitimate opening band - enter Diamond Dave. A legit opener who wouldn’t threaten Paul’s “vocal sensitivities”
Doesn't answer the question. Are Kiss "cheaping out their fans" by dropping Diamond Dave because of healthy demand post covid, or are they dying out there as several gleefully claim?
Both
G&P always take the cheap route - hence Tommy on guitar, a friggin painter as an opener.
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TwistedTaste wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:12 am
TheSpoiler wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:08 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:02 am
TheSpoiler wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:56 am

Well, which is accurate? If Kiss don't need DLR anymore because of covid, so they are "cheaping out" their fans, or are they dying on their ass out there as several will have us all believe? Because it can't be both.
There aren’t any clear answers because of COVID. Some people are starving for events and others are cautious. Clearly sales were lagging toward the end of whatever leg the EOTR tour was going thru prior to COVID so it was said the promoters requested a legitimate opening band - enter Diamond Dave. A legit opener who wouldn’t threaten Paul’s “vocal sensitivities”
Doesn't answer the question. Are Kiss "cheaping out their fans" by dropping Diamond Dave because of healthy demand post covid, or are they dying out there as several gleefully claim?
Both
G&P always take the cheap route - hence Tommy on guitar, a friggin painter as an opener.
Both. So they're doing great, and they're dying on their ass.

OK.
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A painter as an opening act... odd.
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Why does DLR cancel his gigs? Anyone knows?
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TheSpoiler wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:19 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:12 am
TheSpoiler wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:08 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:02 am

There aren’t any clear answers because of COVID. Some people are starving for events and others are cautious. Clearly sales were lagging toward the end of whatever leg the EOTR tour was going thru prior to COVID so it was said the promoters requested a legitimate opening band - enter Diamond Dave. A legit opener who wouldn’t threaten Paul’s “vocal sensitivities”
Doesn't answer the question. Are Kiss "cheaping out their fans" by dropping Diamond Dave because of healthy demand post covid, or are they dying out there as several gleefully claim?
Both
G&P always take the cheap route - hence Tommy on guitar, a friggin painter as an opener.
Both. So they're doing great, and they're dying on their ass.

OK.
Crawling across the finish line for sure. Resorting to tribute members, multiple farewells, and lip synching. Not exactly firing on all cylinders. I don’t think so many would call them out on it - but when they continue to verbally denigrate past members for their performances and problems - while at the same time doubling down on their current status as “being at the top of their game” - I think that makes them open game.

I guess some would consider the performance of the EOTR tour to be successful - and I get that. It probably is what u would call a successful tour if it was another typical rock tour. But when you factor in that it’s a once legendary band’s “Final Farewell Tour” - I’d call it lacking. Especially when they can’t even do multiple gigs anywhere. And with all things Kiss (G&P) - I find it particularly tacky/distasteful that at the beginning of the tour they said they’d never be coming back to a market a second time - so make sure you catch them while you can. In addition to bragging that they’d be doing their longest shows ever (I think they promised like 25-30 songs or something ridiculous like that)

So I guess it really depends on how you view this thing.

Myself - at this point in time - I prefer music. I’d like for them to end this charade and focus on their back catalog. These guys have enough friggin money. Enough with the greed and for one time - put your money where your mouth is and cater to the fans with some cool music product. (& I don’t consider a 60 dollar album with zero effort/money put into the packaging as cool)
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jannep17 wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:52 am Why does DLR cancel his gigs? Anyone knows?
I think I read that the guys in his band moved on to other gigs.

With the uncertainty of touring these days, it wouldn't have made financial sense for Dave to keep them on retainer.