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Is the Kiss Elder alternate cover, printed in Turkey, an official release or a bootleg?
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I don't know, but I do wish I had a copy!!
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At one time, there was a member of this board who had a copy. I do not remember his username and I do not know if he still posts here.
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Greasepaint74 wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:29 pm Is the Kiss Elder alternate cover, printed in Turkey, an official release or a bootleg?
No clue Does it come with lyrics. Would love to see the backcover.
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From the Kiss My Wax group: not an official release, a vintage bootleg/counterfeit. Great looking cover, IMO
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Greasepaint74 wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:37 pm From the Kiss My Wax group: not an official release, a vintage bootleg/counterfeit. Great looking cover, IMO
Not a bootleg
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Looks exactly like a bootleg.
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Boot all the way.
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Being the album is actually Music From the Elder obviously makes it a boot.
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Bootleg. There were no copyright laws in Turkey at the time.
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Greasepaint74 wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:29 pm Is the Kiss Elder alternate cover, printed in Turkey, an official release or a bootleg?
Turkey?

Okay. But does it come with a side of gravy? Maybe some mashed taters?
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Kissoff wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:44 pm
Greasepaint74 wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:29 pm Is the Kiss Elder alternate cover, printed in Turkey, an official release or a bootleg?
No clue Does it come with lyrics. Would love to see the backcover.
Here ya go. From Discogs.com
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Odd that they use the German logo! The only reason I can think of is that there are a lot of people of Turkish descent in Germany and some copies might have found their way there and broken the law?
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Here’s a better image of the back cover. Ace appears to have become a giant!

Also note: The Oath is misspelled as ‘The Darth’.
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Glasgow Kiss wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:08 am Odd that they use the German logo! The only reason I can think of is that there are a lot of people of Turkish descent in Germany and some copies might have found their way there and broken the law?
You might well be on the money there! I’m not sure how popular Kiss were in Turkey in 1981 or how many of these were pressed, but I think it’s possible that they may have been at least partly made with the German market in mind.
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Chaim Wigz wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:18 am
Glasgow Kiss wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:08 am Odd that they use the German logo! The only reason I can think of is that there are a lot of people of Turkish descent in Germany and some copies might have found their way there and broken the law?
You might well be on the money there! I’m not sure how popular Kiss were in Turkey in 1981 or how many of these were pressed, but I think it’s possible that they may have been at least partly made with the German market in mind.
Might be - it's not beyond the realms of possibility that some people traveling back from Turkey to Germany overland partly financed their trip by loading up their car or van with a few boxes of albums to sell there!
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Glasgow Kiss wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:28 am
Chaim Wigz wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:18 am
Glasgow Kiss wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:08 am Odd that they use the German logo! The only reason I can think of is that there are a lot of people of Turkish descent in Germany and some copies might have found their way there and broken the law?
You might well be on the money there! I’m not sure how popular Kiss were in Turkey in 1981 or how many of these were pressed, but I think it’s possible that they may have been at least partly made with the German market in mind.
Might be - it's not beyond the realms of possibility that some people traveling back from Turkey to Germany overland partly financed their trip by loading up their car or van with a few boxes of albums to sell there!
Kinda like a rock n roll cross-channel booze cruise! :D
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Oh and right on cue! Guess where the one and only copy for sale on eBay right now is located..

Glasgow Kiss wins today’s FAQ! 8)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/154512155025
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Released in Turkey back in the day - you can question the copyright laws in Turkey.

More recently re-released - also as a picture disk.
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Chaim Wigz wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:41 am Oh and right on cue! Guess where the one and only copy for sale on eBay right now is located..

Glasgow Kiss wins today’s FAQ! 8)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/154512155025
Ooft! That's a fair price for something that when it comes down to it is a knock-off!
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Discogs has it as an official release, (misprint) but a commentator says its a bootleg.
I am going with bootleg. A label named Dallas, with J.R. Ewing's cowboy hat as their logo? The Elder and J.R. Ewing just don't seem to match. LOLl!!!
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Chaim Wigz wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:04 am
Kissoff wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:44 pm
Greasepaint74 wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:29 pm Is the Kiss Elder alternate cover, printed in Turkey, an official release or a bootleg?
No clue Does it come with lyrics. Would love to see the backcover.
Here ya go. From Discogs.com
Kool thanks!!!
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Kissoff wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:39 pm
Chaim Wigz wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:04 am
Kissoff wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:44 pm
Greasepaint74 wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:29 pm Is the Kiss Elder alternate cover, printed in Turkey, an official release or a bootleg?
No clue Does it come with lyrics. Would love to see the backcover.
Here ya go. From Discogs.com
Kool thanks!!!
Ya welcome! 8) :thumleft: