When’s The Next Off The Soundboard?

[steve]

The next one? Steady on, I haven't listened to the first one yet.

Considering the amount of semi-legal radio broadcasts out there (see https://www.zdigital.com.au/artist/kiss/albums for just a few), it wouldn't be that difficult to find the full shows and put the KISS stamp on them by releasing them properly, but I wonder if there's enough interest. This ain't The Rolling Stones From The Vault, although G & P would do very well if they followed that example.

[bricodd2]

I’m not sure how much G&P are even involved. Is it them picking the shows?

[Brad Breath]

If the physical releases don't keep coming, hopefully more shows will at least be released digitally. They should've built a site for live downloads by now.

[bricodd2]

Agreed

[battra]

I really enjoyed the Tokyo show.

It was good for me because it was an oddity....a short lived lineup that had no tape.

Now, there aren't any other lineups like that, I don't think, but give me an Eric Carr show.

Shoot. Do Detroit 90.

[jmitzel]

After the sales of the Tokyo show I don't think we'll get another.

I'd imagine this series is one and done, unfortunately. I'd love to see a handful or two of these releases, but it's all about the sales, and there weren't many.

What were the final sales figures?

[jmitzel]

The first volume seems to have been a bit of a flop and it doesn’t surprise me. If you’re releasing something that is effectively just for the diehards you should make something special. Vol 1 didn’t have much going for it. I hope they change direction with the next one and go for deluxe packaging. Dream on.

What were final sales figures?

[jmitzel]

I'm not sure they'll make another one. Seemed like a half-assed attempt.

Half assed how? They gave us something fans have been asking for for a good decade...live shows.

It was well worth it and I look forward to more in the series.

Agreed. Some folks will NEVER be happy/positive about anything else from KISS period.

[Wichita77]

I'm not sure they'll make another one. Seemed like a half-assed attempt.

Half assed how? They gave us something fans have been asking for for a good decade...live shows.

It was well worth it and I look forward to more in the series.

Agreed. Some folks will NEVER be happy/positive about anything else from KISS period.

THIS!!!!

There is one good thing about having the chronically unhappy/negative/shit-on-everything "fans" around here though. They make me feel better about myself as they remind me that I am one of those who still knows how to have a good time.

[Under The Rose]

After the sales of the Tokyo show I don't think we'll get another.

I'd imagine this series is one and done, unfortunately. I'd love to see a handful or two of these releases, but it's all about the sales, and there weren't many.

What were the final sales figures?

Less than expected. The exclusive Kissonline version didn’t sell out and so is now available elsewhere.

[Under The Rose]

I'm not sure they'll make another one. Seemed like a half-assed attempt.

Half assed how? They gave us something fans have been asking for for a good decade...live shows.

It was well worth it and I look forward to more in the series.

Agreed. Some folks will NEVER be happy/positive about anything else from KISS period.

Not true at all. Give us something special…not half assed…that’s all we’re saying.

[Wichita77]

I'm not sure they'll make another one. Seemed like a half-assed attempt.

Half assed how? They gave us something fans have been asking for for a good decade...live shows.

It was well worth it and I look forward to more in the series.

Agreed. Some folks will NEVER be happy/positive about anything else from KISS period.

Not true at all. Give us something special…not half assed…that’s all we’re saying.

I have to disagree with you Rose. jmitzeel's post is absolutely true.

I'm listening to the Tokyo Soundboard show right now and couldn't be happier. KISS gives you the deluxe special Vault or the promise of a stripped down Soundboard series to choose from. If you can't find a way to be happy somewhere in there, you just might not be capable of being happy with anything KISS does.

That's all we're saying.

[jannep17]

I'm not sure they'll make another one. Seemed like a half-assed attempt.

Half assed how? They gave us something fans have been asking for for a good decade...live shows.

It was well worth it and I look forward to more in the series.

Agreed. Some folks will NEVER be happy/positive about anything else from KISS period.

Not true at all. Give us something special…not half assed…that’s all we’re saying.

Agree. It's of course great that they made an official release of this one, but they chose the easiest way, per usual.

[Under The Rose]

Half assed how? They gave us something fans have been asking for for a good decade...live shows.

It was well worth it and I look forward to more in the series.

Agreed. Some folks will NEVER be happy/positive about anything else from KISS period.

Not true at all. Give us something special…not half assed…that’s all we’re saying.

Agree. It's of course great that they made an official release of this one, but they chose the easiest way, per usual.

Exactly. I want the series to continue…but for it to be profitable, and thus continue, it needs to be desirable. Based on volume 1, I don’t think it’s attractive enough a package in this day and age. Give us something special. Throw in a DVD, a book, delxue packaging, charge more by all means, but not just a CD and LP in a plain cardboard sleeve…that is just not going to get me excited. Might as well just release the songs digitally.

[jannep17]

Agreed. Some folks will NEVER be happy/positive about anything else from KISS period.

Not true at all. Give us something special…not half assed…that’s all we’re saying.

Agree. It's of course great that they made an official release of this one, but they chose the easiest way, per usual.

Exactly. I want the series to continue…but for it to be profitable, and thus continue, it needs to be desirable. Based on volume 1, I don’t think it’s attractive enough a package in this day and age. Give us something special. Throw in a DVD, a book, delxue packaging, charge more by all means, but not just a CD and LP in a plain cardboard sleeve…that is just not going to get me excited. Might as well just release the songs digitally.

With the way things were, I bought this digitally. Why waste shelfspace with something so mundane.

[Tail of a hurricane]

I think it depends how it sells

[That 70s Guy]

There won't be any more,it didn't sell.

[Going Blind]

They should release Magic Mountain and combine it with Ace's wedding.

[jmitzel]

I'm not sure they'll make another one. Seemed like a half-assed attempt.

Half assed how? They gave us something fans have been asking for for a good decade...live shows.

It was well worth it and I look forward to more in the series.

Agreed. Some folks will NEVER be happy/positive about anything else from KISS period.

Not true at all. Give us something special…not half assed…that’s all we’re saying.

Then, my comment doesn’t include you. There are many, however, who will never be happy with anything new from the band.

[jmitzel]

Agreed. Some folks will NEVER be happy/positive about anything else from KISS period.

Not true at all. Give us something special…not half assed…that’s all we’re saying.

Agree. It's of course great that they made an official release of this one, but they chose the easiest way, per usual.

Exactly. I want the series to continue…but for it to be profitable, and thus continue, it needs to be desirable. Based on volume 1, I don’t think it’s attractive enough a package in this day and age. Give us something special. Throw in a DVD, a book, delxue packaging, charge more by all means, but not just a CD and LP in a plain cardboard sleeve…that is just not going to get me excited. Might as well just release the songs digitally.

Now, we all seem to forget that Universal Music owns the rights to all of the band’s music. It would be interesting to know just how much “say-so” power Paul and Gene have towards any project Universal releases. I am thinking that our frustration/disappointment needs to be focused on Universal Music Corp. and not so much on Paul and Gene these days.

[ZachAttack]

I'm not sure they'll make another one. Seemed like a half-assed attempt.

Half assed how? They gave us something fans have been asking for for a good decade...live shows.

It was well worth it and I look forward to more in the series.

Have you seen some of the recent bootlegs people are putting out? Posters, recreations of original store displays, stickers, photo books, patches, pins, gatefold jackets, printed inner sleeves, beautiful cover artwork

Now look at Off The Soundboard - a plain tan colored sleeve with the Kiss logo stamped on. No inserts, no photos of the band, nothing.

[jmitzel]

After the sales of the Tokyo show I don't think we'll get another.

I'd imagine this series is one and done, unfortunately. I'd love to see a handful or two of these releases, but it's all about the sales, and there weren't many.

What were the final sales figures?

Less than expected. The exclusive Kissonline version didn’t sell out and so is now available elsewhere.

Maybe so but how do you know for certain? Any specific figures? What was/is expectations these days for physical media sales? The KISSonline exclusive is simply a color variant that was likely easier to produce more of since the regular format was being pressed at the same time; from a production aspect. The previous KISSOnline formats were probably limited due to smaller production runs for that one limited edition album.

[jmitzel]

I'm not sure they'll make another one. Seemed like a half-assed attempt.

Half assed how? They gave us something fans have been asking for for a good decade...live shows.

It was well worth it and I look forward to more in the series.

Have you seen some of the recent bootlegs people are putting out? Posters, recreations of original store displays, stickers, photo books, patches, pins, gatefold jackets, printed inner sleeves, beautiful cover artwork

Now look at Off The Soundboard - a plain tan colored sleeve with the Kiss logo stamped on. No inserts, no photos of the band, nothing.

I have all of the recent bootleg sets and yes they are beautiful and have all kinds of cool inserts; however, pricing on those vs. Off the Soundboard is literally night and day.

[ZachAttack]

I'm not sure they'll make another one. Seemed like a half-assed attempt.

Half assed how? They gave us something fans have been asking for for a good decade...live shows.

It was well worth it and I look forward to more in the series.

Have you seen some of the recent bootlegs people are putting out? Posters, recreations of original store displays, stickers, photo books, patches, pins, gatefold jackets, printed inner sleeves, beautiful cover artwork

Now look at Off The Soundboard - a plain tan colored sleeve with the Kiss logo stamped on. No inserts, no photos of the band, nothing.

I have all of the recent bootleg sets and yes they are beautiful and have all kinds of cool inserts; however, pricing on those vs. Off the Soundboard is literally night and day.

It costs a private citizen a lot more to produce something like that than it does for a band on a major label

[jmitzel]

Half assed how? They gave us something fans have been asking for for a good decade...live shows.

It was well worth it and I look forward to more in the series.

Have you seen some of the recent bootlegs people are putting out? Posters, recreations of original store displays, stickers, photo books, patches, pins, gatefold jackets, printed inner sleeves, beautiful cover artwork

Now look at Off The Soundboard - a plain tan colored sleeve with the Kiss logo stamped on. No inserts, no photos of the band, nothing.

I have all of the recent bootleg sets and yes they are beautiful and have all kinds of cool inserts; however, pricing on those vs. Off the Soundboard is literally night and day.

It costs a private citizen a lot more to produce something like that than it does for a band on a major label

True; I agree with that aspect.

[joma5477]

Half assed how? They gave us something fans have been asking for for a good decade...live shows.

It was well worth it and I look forward to more in the series.

Have you seen some of the recent bootlegs people are putting out? Posters, recreations of original store displays, stickers, photo books, patches, pins, gatefold jackets, printed inner sleeves, beautiful cover artwork

Now look at Off The Soundboard - a plain tan colored sleeve with the Kiss logo stamped on. No inserts, no photos of the band, nothing.

I have all of the recent bootleg sets and yes they are beautiful and have all kinds of cool inserts; however, pricing on those vs. Off the Soundboard is literally night and day.

It costs a private citizen a lot more to produce something like that than it does for a band on a major label

Actually, not true. See, the bootleggers don't pay for any of the licensing an official release would have to pay for. Those beautiful books the bootlegs come with, with like 300-400 photos...those are all supposed to be licensed and cost good money to do so. The bootleggers don't pay shit for that. Their only cost is the manufacturing cost, which they get back when they sell the product.

[ZachAttack]

Their only cost is the manufacturing cost, which they get back when they sell the product.

Which is why the product costs so much. Kiss probably gets 10,000 units or more of these produced. A bootlegger gets maybe 300 to 500 at most pressed

[Curveboy]

Have you seen some of the recent bootlegs people are putting out? Posters, recreations of original store displays, stickers, photo books, patches, pins, gatefold jackets, printed inner sleeves, beautiful cover artwork

Now look at Off The Soundboard - a plain tan colored sleeve with the Kiss logo stamped on. No inserts, no photos of the band, nothing.

I'd still much rather an official release sanctioned by the band and the money going into their hands for their art and creation rather than bootleggers.

[AceyAintInCharge]

I think Paul's hatred towards Peter will tank this series because he has to know that the original band will sell more copies but he doesn't want Peter on any releases.

That and if Ace appears on anything he can't allow it to be released without shitting all over his guitar playing in the press the week of release. Still blows my mind he did that!
Couldn't have helped the sales. Talk about keys to the kingdom while hanging yourself. Nice work Paul!

[battra]

I'm not sure they'll make another one. Seemed like a half-assed attempt.

Half assed how? They gave us something fans have been asking for for a good decade...live shows.

It was well worth it and I look forward to more in the series.

Agreed. Some folks will NEVER be happy/positive about anything else from KISS period.

THIS!!!!

There is one good thing about having the chronically unhappy/negative/shit-on-everything "fans" around here though. They make me feel better about myself as they remind me that I am one of those who still knows how to have a good time.

I wembled back and forth on this set.

When I finally spun it..

Pure bliss!!!

I do think it was a touch on the overpriced side… but Iron Maiden also just announced $50 for their new album…

So…

Bollocks.

[destroyerrnro]

"hopefully" the other project that will be released this year can make up for the disappointment of this series possibly getting canned.. Or the people involved keep pushing for more releases?

What other project?

destroyerrnro said that he'll start to give details closer to the release date as he's allowed to starting next month.

That's good, because we've got "Great Expectaaaaaaaaaaaaaations".

Brother Balish....

[Red Yogurt Bath]

The first volume seems to have been a bit of a flop and it doesn’t surprise me. If you’re releasing something that is effectively just for the diehards you should make something special. Vol 1 didn’t have much going for it. I hope they change direction with the next one and go for deluxe packaging. Dream on.

How are you quantifying "flop" here?

[B5Erik]

The first volume seems to have been a bit of a flop and it doesn’t surprise me. If you’re releasing something that is effectively just for the diehards you should make something special. Vol 1 didn’t have much going for it. I hope they change direction with the next one and go for deluxe packaging. Dream on.

How are you quantifying "flop" here?

I'd quantify it by saying it sold far less than they hoped for, and far less than they expected.

[Wichita77]

Half assed how? They gave us something fans have been asking for for a good decade...live shows.

It was well worth it and I look forward to more in the series.

Agreed. Some folks will NEVER be happy/positive about anything else from KISS period.

THIS!!!!

There is one good thing about having the chronically unhappy/negative/shit-on-everything "fans" around here though. They make me feel better about myself as they remind me that I am one of those who still knows how to have a good time.

I wembled back and forth on this set.

When I finally spun it..

Pure bliss!!!

I do think it was a touch on the overpriced side… but Iron Maiden also just announced $50 for their new album…

So…

Bollocks.

It seemed a little pricey given the underwhelming packaging, but three LPs at $20 each isn't all that outrageous. As often as I put them on the turntable I'm definitely getting my money's worth.

I'm just hoping that sales were such that we'll see a few more of these. I'd love to have each of the lineups represented.

[battra]

Agreed. Some folks will NEVER be happy/positive about anything else from KISS period.

THIS!!!!

There is one good thing about having the chronically unhappy/negative/shit-on-everything "fans" around here though. They make me feel better about myself as they remind me that I am one of those who still knows how to have a good time.

I wembled back and forth on this set.

When I finally spun it..

Pure bliss!!!

I do think it was a touch on the overpriced side… but Iron Maiden also just announced $50 for their new album…

So…

Bollocks.

It seemed a little pricey given the underwhelming packaging, but three LPs at $20 each isn't all that outrageous. As often as I put them on the turntable I'm definitely getting my money's worth.

I'm just hoping that sales were such that we'll see a few more of these. I'd love to have each of the lineups represented.

Agreed. It’s a really cool concept. And I hope they stay with it.

[pete1699]

I love the whole concept and I’d love a recording from any era but I think to make a bigger splash they maybe should release a classic show from the 70s and maybe that will carry a bigger punch as far as sales go.

[battra]

I love the whole concept and I’d love a recording from any era but I think to make a bigger splash they maybe should release a classic show from the 70s and maybe that will carry a bigger punch as far as sales go.

I would be far less likely to pay a premium for that.

I already have two live albums from the 70’s.

[69th_B1izard]

when the first one sells out, so............

[kiss-1976]

It's mid August now. Any updates on the 'next big thing'...

[jannep17]

It's mid August now. Any updates on the 'next big thing'...

There is no big thing. Has never been.
Only small minds.

[steveh67]

There won't be any more,it didn't sell.

Farking hell.


KISS nor the label never anticipated big sales, it wasn't released to make them a lot of money.

They wouldn't have released it, they would have done the numbers for sure.

They may or may not go the digital download route (they are almost 2 decades behind this idea too)

But this idea with fans, that it's all about sales is ridiculous at this point in the bands history.

[Tito]

There won't be any more,it didn't sell.

But this idea with fans, that it's all about sales is ridiculous at this point in the bands history.

Their excuse for not releasing new music is "it won't sell". They can hardly have been surprised by this zero effort release not storming up the charts.

[battra]

I've got the Tokyo show on the platter right now.

It really, really sounds great.