SpinningAcorn wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:18 am
Love seeing that great Industry source Rolling Stone.
At least I know now how you all screwed up your thinking in some ways. Because that article talked about not selling out the first day or first couple of days, you ran with that and completely screwed things up.
It's a shame y'all don't know simple basic economics. But I love being lectured to by people who think it's best kiss had not sold out until the very last minute. Because according to jot, just left money on the table by selling out.
Of course he still can't admit he screwed that up.
In his world kiss selling out when demand is low and prices have been slashed is a good thing.
Also the article talks about prices going up and down but the people who posted the article can't give any examples of when kisses price has gone up. They can only give examples of when it's gone down.
Also they laughably brag about that algorithms, but yet almost all examples of second row show prices fall from 750 to 250. That sounds like a pretty crappy algorithm to me. And they are leaving a tremendous amount of money on the table.
But again if people want to think KISS doing Groupons, massively slashing prices on tickets and other things are a good thing so be it. Whatever floats their boat.
I mean this whole argument started because someone bragging that kiss finally sold other show after it's been on sale for over a year. And it's only a 5000 seater. This is a show that should have sold out easily in a month.
The strong demand just isn't there. And its certainly not there for dynamic pricing to kick in and raise the ticket prices. The low demand iust means falling ticket prices.
And I certainly disagree with Garth Brooks and others who give away first and second row seats to people in the upper tiers and act like those are the real fans. If someone is willing to shell out $1500, $2000 or more, I would say those fans are putting their loyalty where the money is.
Now maybe instead of ignoring reality, jot and his buddy can answer some simple things.
Do they still falsely believe not selling out till the end is a good thing? Or will they admit prices have dropped substantially and a ton of money was left on the table
Will they admit with kiss Dynamic pricing seems to only go down not up
Will they admit the algorithms for KISS concert suck and it dropped in from 750 to 250 was no drops in between is ridiculous
Will they answer if they always combined foreign and American box-office or only do it when they're trying to make a point in the four and helps them
Will they admit kiss is not a stadium band on end of the road. And if they try to use foreign stadium shows will they admit the kiss was a stadium band on the creatures tour
Will they admit they've never used fractional data to extrapolate tour averages for tours in the 70s 80s and 90s
Will they admit there's no way to determine how much money the reunions tour took in because so many people were getting tickets via ticket brokers
Will the admit using the CPT I to adjust for Ticket inflation doesn't work
Will they admit they should be consistent when using data instead of cherry-picking like they do constantly. And loving sources when it agrees with them and then hating the same sources when it disagrees with it
Will they admit they really don't know anything about the industry they just read some stuff and screw it all up