Vinnie Vincent solo in LOVE GUN

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Re: Vinnie Vincent solo in LOVE GUN

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LordThurisaz wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:09 pm
drmoorejr wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:40 pm it's highly likely that a song like Love Gun is played in the key of G (which includes the E minor chord, but mostly played as a power chord (1st and 5th). IF say a rhythm guitarist accidentally plays a E major (instead of a E5) you would get a dissonant sound when a lead guitarist plays the minor 3rd. We all have seen Paul play, he is busy prancing around the stage like horny 17 year old slut in front of bunch of boys, its very likely that he messed up. or since this is the site that likes to bash Vinnie maybe Vinnie simply played the solo wrong. I doubt it though, because the chord progression the song is played in is pretty much the same thought the years, with only the guitar tuning changing from a Eb to a E (standard e tuning).

https://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/m ... =MN0117272
I know. Have I stated anything to the contrary?
Actually you stated very little. You are correct about dissonant notes, that goes without saying. But (unless I missed something), it seemed like the fault rested solely on the lead guitarist, and not on the band as a whole; this is how I interpreted your earlier comments regarding dissonant notes. I will say as a person who has been to 18 KISS concerts (probably nothing compared to many people here), I have heard a lot of horrible sounding guitars, but it was usually Paul. Bruce Kulick is a solid player as is Vinnie, and usually the sloppy rhythm playing is what I heard. I know Paul can play guitar, but his stage antics were usually placed higher up in priority than his actual live playing (with the exception of Unplugged and his live solo DVD).
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Re: Vinnie Vincent solo in LOVE GUN

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drmoorejr wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:31 pm
LordThurisaz wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:09 pm
drmoorejr wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:40 pm it's highly likely that a song like Love Gun is played in the key of G (which includes the E minor chord, but mostly played as a power chord (1st and 5th). IF say a rhythm guitarist accidentally plays a E major (instead of a E5) you would get a dissonant sound when a lead guitarist plays the minor 3rd. We all have seen Paul play, he is busy prancing around the stage like horny 17 year old slut in front of bunch of boys, its very likely that he messed up. or since this is the site that likes to bash Vinnie maybe Vinnie simply played the solo wrong. I doubt it though, because the chord progression the song is played in is pretty much the same thought the years, with only the guitar tuning changing from a Eb to a E (standard e tuning).

https://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/m ... =MN0117272
I know. Have I stated anything to the contrary?
Actually you stated very little. You are correct about dissonant notes, that goes without saying. But (unless I missed something), it seemed like the fault rested solely on the lead guitarist, and not on the band as a whole; this is how I interpreted your earlier comments regarding dissonant notes. I will say as a person who has been to 18 KISS concerts (probably nothing compared to many people here), I have heard a lot of horrible sounding guitars, but it was usually Paul. Bruce Kulick is a solid player as is Vinnie, and usually the sloppy rhythm playing is what I heard. I know Paul can play guitar, but his stage antics were usually placed higher up in priority than his actual live playing (with the exception of Unplugged and his live solo DVD).
If Paul plays an E Major chord, when he's supposed to play E5, then the problem lies on him. You are trying to conflate things and not really making a cogent point.

Anyways, this has ceased to interest me. Have a good day.
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Re: Vinnie Vincent solo in LOVE GUN

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LordThurisaz wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:34 pm
drmoorejr wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:31 pm
LordThurisaz wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:09 pm
drmoorejr wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:40 pm it's highly likely that a song like Love Gun is played in the key of G (which includes the E minor chord, but mostly played as a power chord (1st and 5th). IF say a rhythm guitarist accidentally plays a E major (instead of a E5) you would get a dissonant sound when a lead guitarist plays the minor 3rd. We all have seen Paul play, he is busy prancing around the stage like horny 17 year old slut in front of bunch of boys, its very likely that he messed up. or since this is the site that likes to bash Vinnie maybe Vinnie simply played the solo wrong. I doubt it though, because the chord progression the song is played in is pretty much the same thought the years, with only the guitar tuning changing from a Eb to a E (standard e tuning).

https://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/m ... =MN0117272
I know. Have I stated anything to the contrary?
Actually you stated very little. You are correct about dissonant notes, that goes without saying. But (unless I missed something), it seemed like the fault rested solely on the lead guitarist, and not on the band as a whole; this is how I interpreted your earlier comments regarding dissonant notes. I will say as a person who has been to 18 KISS concerts (probably nothing compared to many people here), I have heard a lot of horrible sounding guitars, but it was usually Paul. Bruce Kulick is a solid player as is Vinnie, and usually the sloppy rhythm playing is what I heard. I know Paul can play guitar, but his stage antics were usually placed higher up in priority than his actual live playing (with the exception of Unplugged and his live solo DVD).
If Paul plays an E Major chord, when he's supposed to play E5, then the problem lies on him. You are trying to conflate things and not really making a cogent point.

Anyways, this has ceased to interest me. Have a good day.
I was actually enjoying a real conversation on music. Sorry to bore you. I guess it's more fun for people here to bash current or former KISS members. (and my point was very clear).
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Re: Vinnie Vincent solo in LOVE GUN

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drmoorejr wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:52 pm I was actually enjoying a real conversation on music. Sorry to bore you. I guess it's more fun for people here to bash current or former KISS members.
PM me then. I don think want to continue to derail the thread with a discussion on theory.
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Re: Vinnie Vincent solo in LOVE GUN

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Awful.

I can understand him wanting to interpreted his way with his own style, but he has no phrases


It’s nothing but his usual “ fast for the sake of fast” bullshit
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Re: Vinnie Vincent solo in LOVE GUN

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Here is an example of Beebop blues with a TON of chromatic notes. of course one person's garbage is another man's treasure.
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Re: Vinnie Vincent solo in LOVE GUN

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drmoorejr wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:52 pm I guess it's more fun for people here to bash current or former KISS members.
Would Paul "prancing around the stage like horny 17 year old slut in front of bunch of boys" perhaps fall in that category? 🤔
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Tito wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:19 am
drmoorejr wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:52 pm I guess it's more fun for people here to bash current or former KISS members.
Would Paul "prancing around the stage like horny 17 year old slut in front of bunch of boys" perhaps fall in that category? 🤔
yeah probably.
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Re: Vinnie Vincent solo in LOVE GUN

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Sinisha wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:27 am I am absolutely not a Vinnie Vincent disciple but being a guitarist myself I would like to say that this solo is actually really, really good. Too lazy to explain. haha
The Rhoads solos he stole them from are much better.