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Great photos 🤘
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Despite how much criticism the Dynasty era gets, Gene still looked bad ass in his costume. He could not hide his demon persona.
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southernkiss wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:47 pm Despite how much criticism the Dynasty era gets, Gene still looked bad ass in his costume. He could not hide his demon persona.
I agree!
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I've always preferred this version when it comes to Dynasty. Image
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One of my favourites.

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DAVIDYR1 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:46 am 8BA78276-895A-4253-BC6C-B6F46D93564B.jpeg

One of my favourites.

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Since you commented here, David, I wanted to ask you a question if I may. Was there ever any thought about not having the wings on any of Gene’s costumes in recent years? I know it’s a big part of the Demon character but I think it might have been cool to see some of these outfits without the black wings attached. Take away a bit of the bulkiness of the designs.

And as there is a 1979 image here, how about a red cape instead of the wings just to change it up a bit?
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Mr Slow wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:54 am
And as there is a 1979 image here, how about a red cape instead of the wings just to change it up a bit?
That looks so cool.
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Mr Slow wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:54 am
DAVIDYR1 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:46 am 8BA78276-895A-4253-BC6C-B6F46D93564B.jpeg

One of my favourites.

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Since you commented here, David, I wanted to ask you a question if I may. Was there ever any thought about not having the wings on any of Gene’s costumes in recent years? I know it’s a big part of the Demon character but I think it might have been cool to see some of these outfits without the black wings attached. Take away a bit of the bulkiness of the designs.

And as there is a 1979 image here, how about a red cape instead of the wings just to change it up a bit?

I can’t address anything prior to 2016 because that’s when the great Wendy Benbrook (their actual costume designer/maker) hired me to replicate Gene’s Creatures costume with some subtle changes, and that’s the only costume that did not have wings or a Cape.
F314E485-CAE6-43BF-9716-00103E9C94C7.jpeg
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Gene then hired me in 2018 for the EOTR and in total we created 3 costumes together, but at no point did we discuss or consider a full length Cape instead of, or no wings entirely. Wings are by now a staple of The Demon but to give you an idea of how vested he was in every inch of his costume design…we went over about a dozen wing options, shapes and stud sizes, placements and variants.
The first Dragon costume only had studs in the tips of the wings, and were made very much like the ALIVE Costume wings.
By the time the tour hit in Jan ‘19 we had transitioned to more traditional wings….but even the wings themselves are ‘elaborate’ in their construction.
Nothing just ‘is’ just ‘there’ on these costumes.
:D

The picture you edited with the red Cape is the 3rd and final Demon EOTR costume. Far better than V2, much sleeker….and I do agree that the Cape looks cool!

Here’s another V1, The Dragon Suit.
From The Price Is Right taping.
811B86A2-EF72-4F1A-8248-9F8450309310.jpeg
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Would be cool to see them wear the dynasty costumes one more time, never gonna happen though.
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TT714 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:05 pm Would be cool to see them wear the dynasty costumes one more time, never gonna happen though.
Agreed. Those are my favorite.
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JupiterJones wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:50 pm Image

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Any way I can save the top photo and send it to a friend?
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Yeah, learn how to use the internet bro.
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JupiterJones wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:32 pm Yeah, learn how to use the internet bro.
You’re a lovely person and we’re all so lucky to have you here! 🙄
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joeyboy wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:06 pm
JupiterJones wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:50 pm Image

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Any way I can save the top photo and send it to a friend?
Just click on (or touch on it in your phone) until it enlarges. Then right click and save.

Here’s the phone version:
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Seriously? It’s 2021 not 1994. Who doesn’t know how to save a photo from the internet?
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JupiterJones wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:04 pm Seriously? It’s 2021 not 1994. Who doesn’t know how to save a photo from the internet?
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Gene is C00L!!!
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joeyboy wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:13 pm
JupiterJones wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:04 pm Seriously? It’s 2021 not 1994. Who doesn’t know how to save a photo from the internet?
nice pic
I meet people all the time who do not even know how to use the internet at all.
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DAVIDYR1 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:26 am
Mr Slow wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:54 am
DAVIDYR1 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:46 am 8BA78276-895A-4253-BC6C-B6F46D93564B.jpeg

One of my favourites.

David
Since you commented here, David, I wanted to ask you a question if I may. Was there ever any thought about not having the wings on any of Gene’s costumes in recent years? I know it’s a big part of the Demon character but I think it might have been cool to see some of these outfits without the black wings attached. Take away a bit of the bulkiness of the designs.

And as there is a 1979 image here, how about a red cape instead of the wings just to change it up a bit?

I can’t address anything prior to 2016 because that’s when the great Wendy Benbrook (their actual costume designer/maker) hired me to replicate Gene’s Creatures costume with some subtle changes, and that’s the only costume that did not have wings or a Cape.

F314E485-CAE6-43BF-9716-00103E9C94C7.jpegD32993D0-B551-4129-ABE5-CE0DADCDCF9C.jpeg

Gene then hired me in 2018 for the EOTR and in total we created 3 costumes together, but at no point did we discuss or consider a full length Cape instead of, or no wings entirely. Wings are by now a staple of The Demon but to give you an idea of how vested he was in every inch of his costume design…we went over about a dozen wing options, shapes and stud sizes, placements and variants.
The first Dragon costume only had studs in the tips of the wings, and were made very much like the ALIVE Costume wings.
By the time the tour hit in Jan ‘19 we had transitioned to more traditional wings….but even the wings themselves are ‘elaborate’ in their construction.
Nothing just ‘is’ just ‘there’ on these costumes.
:D

The picture you edited with the red Cape is the 3rd and final Demon EOTR costume. Far better than V2, much sleeker….and I do agree that the Cape looks cool!

Here’s another V1, The Dragon Suit.
From The Price Is Right taping.

811B86A2-EF72-4F1A-8248-9F8450309310.jpeg

David
So there are 3 versions! I remember having this discussion with somebody here about it and I said I thought there were changes to the current one. Does the 3rd version push the chest out and bring the abdomen section in a little? That’s one thing I noticed...
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Mr Slow wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:05 am
So there are 3 versions! I remember having this discussion with somebody here about it and I said I thought there were changes to the current one. Does the 3rd version push the chest out and bring the abdomen section in a little? That’s one thing I noticed...
Here’s a breakdown of the suits, and make no mistake Gene oversaw every inch, detail and aspect of all 3.
To put it in perspective I had a little more leeway replicating Sammy the Serpent for the tour….just not as much time. Sammy was made from scratch in 8 days and on stage Jan 31st, where as the first lunch meeting with Gene to discuss costume design ideas was March 2018.

Version 1:
Worn Oct 15th 2018 - Approximately Jan 20th 2019
The Dragon Suit
Fully Articulated Abdomen. He could move without any restrictions.
93A8C351-D228-4A88-A6C0-8130C4A34D4D.jpeg

Version 2:
Worn Jan 31st 2019 - Approximately June 2019
EOTR Tour Opening Suit:
New Pec Armor
New Collars
New Back
New Abdomen
New Cod Piece
Similar Similar Sleeve Armor to V1
New Cape
Same Boots as V1
2F498EB5-82D2-4690-8FF2-DE4B48FDA6DB.jpeg

Version 3
Worn Approximately Jan 20th 2019 - Present
EOTR Final Tour Suit
Completely New Pecs
Completely New Collars
Revamped Abdomen
Completely New Full Sleeve Armor
Completely New Boot Armor
New Smaller Dragon Shells
Everything else such as Shoulders, Back, Cod Piece, Wings and Bodysuit are same as V2
C84BB121-7146-4A4C-BEAB-D913929F42A9.jpeg
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That’s a pretty detailed breakdown of the 3 versions.
Here’s one more….
This is the V1 Dragon Armor with the V3 Sleeve Armor.
286D0406-6FBE-4DB6-A800-EAEE801BEFD3.jpeg
Just a really cool picture, it’s never been worn this way but a testament to Gene’s creativity. ✊

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southernkiss wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:30 pm
joeyboy wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:13 pm
JupiterJones wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:04 pm Seriously? It’s 2021 not 1994. Who doesn’t know how to save a photo from the internet?
nice pic
I meet people all the time who do not even know how to use the internet at all.
They probably haven’t wasted their lives away arguing with randos on the interwebs. Good for them.
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DAVIDYR1 wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:09 am
Mr Slow wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:05 am
So there are 3 versions! I remember having this discussion with somebody here about it and I said I thought there were changes to the current one. Does the 3rd version push the chest out and bring the abdomen section in a little? That’s one thing I noticed...
Here’s a breakdown of the suits, and make no mistake Gene oversaw every inch, detail and aspect of all 3.
To put it in perspective I had a little more leeway replicating Sammy the Serpent for the tour….just not as much time. Sammy was made from scratch in 8 days and on stage Jan 31st, where as the first lunch meeting with Gene to discuss costume design ideas was March 2018.

Version 1:
Worn Oct 15th 2018 - Approximately Jan 20th 2019
The Dragon Suit
Fully Articulated Abdomen. He could move without any restrictions.
93A8C351-D228-4A88-A6C0-8130C4A34D4D.jpeg


Version 2:
Worn Jan 31st 2019 - Approximately June 2019
EOTR Tour Opening Suit:
New Pec Armor
New Collars
New Back
New Abdomen
New Cod Piece
Similar Similar Sleeve Armor to V1
New Cape
Same Boots as V1
2F498EB5-82D2-4690-8FF2-DE4B48FDA6DB.jpeg


Version 3
Worn Approximately Jan 20th 2019 - Present
EOTR Final Tour Suit
Completely New Pecs
Completely New Collars
Revamped Abdomen
Completely New Full Sleeve Armor
Completely New Boot Armor
New Smaller Dragon Shells
Everything else such as Shoulders, Back, Cod Piece, Wings and Bodysuit are same as V2
C84BB121-7146-4A4C-BEAB-D913929F42A9.jpegDB8818AA-F16E-4AF1-96A7-AAD65E5CB9DC.jpeg6D657769-673E-4AC7-8896-E0DB96622DC1.jpeg7E08C297-2B2C-49FA-BDBE-3BD50F4129AA.jpeg5A5D7945-1429-48CD-B874-6AD7E73386BD.jpegF7984F97-7C78-478D-8FCF-433689E13E11.jpegC1E0BBC3-6D11-4F52-828A-3F1536F7A761.jpeg


That’s a pretty detailed breakdown of the 3 versions.
Here’s one more….
This is the V1 Dragon Armor with the V3 Sleeve Armor.
286D0406-6FBE-4DB6-A800-EAEE801BEFD3.jpeg

Just a really cool picture, it’s never been worn this way but a testament to Gene’s creativity. ✊

David
Thanks for the detailed response. Much appreciated. You’ve done great work with Gene & co. I’m kinda hoping we get one more shift in the costumes before it’s all over; a return to the LOVE GUN era outfits. That would be very fitting I think.
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Girth is what pops into my mind seeing these pics...
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DAVIDYR1 wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:09 am
That’s a pretty detailed breakdown of the 3 versions.
Here’s one more….
This is the V1 Dragon Armor with the V3 Sleeve Armor.
286D0406-6FBE-4DB6-A800-EAEE801BEFD3.jpeg

Just a really cool picture, it’s never been worn this way but a testament to Gene’s creativity. ✊

David
This costume looks incredible when shown like this separately. Unfortunately the armor didn't look as good when actually worn by Gene - when I saw Gene wearing it it looked shapeless mass of grey. Only now I can see what it's supposed to be.
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Ratmir wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:31 pm
DAVIDYR1 wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:09 am
That’s a pretty detailed breakdown of the 3 versions.
Here’s one more….
This is the V1 Dragon Armor with the V3 Sleeve Armor.
286D0406-6FBE-4DB6-A800-EAEE801BEFD3.jpeg

Just a really cool picture, it’s never been worn this way but a testament to Gene’s creativity. ✊

David
This costume looks incredible when shown like this separately. Unfortunately the armor didn't look as good when actually worn by Gene - when I saw Gene wearing it it looked shapeless mass of grey. Only now I can see what it's supposed to be.
I had given the costume a really high chrome finish. It was basically a mirror finish and it really blurred under a lot of different lighting.
In a controlled setting like the catalog photo shoot it was brilliant and the details popped.
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But we quickly realized it needed to be taken down some and have more positive/negatives to help visually process the details.

By the time we filmed The Price Is Right I had cut a bit of that effect down and it was much more effective.
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That said this was Dec ‘18 and we were already working on phase 2 of his costume which would debut on opening night of the EOTR in Jan ‘19.

Just for sake of clarity, he is now wearing costume number 3 on stage.

I’d like to also say this :D ….I was the 8 year old kid in ‘77 looking in awe at the cover of the Love Gun album. My inspiration for what I do for a living has always been Batman, Star Wars and KISS. These 3 ‘properties’ have been with me since, I’m now 51 and these have been constant reminders that as children we dreamed….and I’ve based my entire professional career on those 3 subject matters.
I currently work with Warner Bros and DC Comics on associated Batman merchandise, did the same with Lucasfilm some years back….with KISS merchandise since 2012….but actually having Gene Simmons hire me/our studio to make his latest costumes….that is what dreams are truly made of….and you can’t put a price on that.

We all obviously have our preferred costume looks, and that’s cool….but I’ll always be grateful to Gene for the opportunities awarded.

David
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Fuck Gene is awesome!!!!!!!
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DAVIDYR1 wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:09 am
Mr Slow wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:05 am
So there are 3 versions! I remember having this discussion with somebody here about it and I said I thought there were changes to the current one. Does the 3rd version push the chest out and bring the abdomen section in a little? That’s one thing I noticed...
Here’s a breakdown of the suits, and make no mistake Gene oversaw every inch, detail and aspect of all 3.
To put it in perspective I had a little more leeway replicating Sammy the Serpent for the tour….just not as much time. Sammy was made from scratch in 8 days and on stage Jan 31st, where as the first lunch meeting with Gene to discuss costume design ideas was March 2018.

Version 1:
Worn Oct 15th 2018 - Approximately Jan 20th 2019
The Dragon Suit
Fully Articulated Abdomen. He could move without any restrictions.
93A8C351-D228-4A88-A6C0-8130C4A34D4D.jpeg


Version 2:
Worn Jan 31st 2019 - Approximately June 2019
EOTR Tour Opening Suit:
New Pec Armor
New Collars
New Back
New Abdomen
New Cod Piece
Similar Similar Sleeve Armor to V1
New Cape
Same Boots as V1
2F498EB5-82D2-4690-8FF2-DE4B48FDA6DB.jpeg


Version 3
Worn Approximately Jan 20th 2019 - Present
EOTR Final Tour Suit
Completely New Pecs
Completely New Collars
Revamped Abdomen
Completely New Full Sleeve Armor
Completely New Boot Armor
New Smaller Dragon Shells
Everything else such as Shoulders, Back, Cod Piece, Wings and Bodysuit are same as V2
C84BB121-7146-4A4C-BEAB-D913929F42A9.jpegDB8818AA-F16E-4AF1-96A7-AAD65E5CB9DC.jpeg6D657769-673E-4AC7-8896-E0DB96622DC1.jpeg7E08C297-2B2C-49FA-BDBE-3BD50F4129AA.jpeg5A5D7945-1429-48CD-B874-6AD7E73386BD.jpegF7984F97-7C78-478D-8FCF-433689E13E11.jpegC1E0BBC3-6D11-4F52-828A-3F1536F7A761.jpeg


That’s a pretty detailed breakdown of the 3 versions.
Here’s one more….
This is the V1 Dragon Armor with the V3 Sleeve Armor.
286D0406-6FBE-4DB6-A800-EAEE801BEFD3.jpeg

Just a really cool picture, it’s never been worn this way but a testament to Gene’s creativity. ✊

David
The newest third model looks good...the thinner boots look much better.
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why i liked the 70's kiss... simpler times. best music and not too complicated.
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JupiterJones wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:04 pm Seriously? It’s 2021 not 1994. Who doesn’t know how to save a photo from the internet?
Grow up.
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The original post has his best to outfits of his entire career, bar none

That very first end of the road outfit was his best before they altered the belt and waist line then came that commonly used Dynasty outfit second