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Eric C copied Peter

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The drum intro to War Machine live at Animalized Uncensored is a sped up version of intro to GOT on Alive II
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No it’s not.
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whitesnake7575 wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 4:13 pm No it’s not.
Yes it is go watch GOT at Cobo Hall 77 for another example

Tap the drum intro with your fingers it’s the same beats
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At all
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Yep sorry
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Play it at 0.75 speed
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Ummm... no.
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Well, they both banged on their drums.....
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Not hearing it at all. 🤷‍♂️
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Man, the Fox could sure hit the skins.
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I don’t hear it either, but I love the different opinions!
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Not even close.
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I do not hear it, at all. But it's not without possibility that Eric felt it incumbant upon himself to incorporate elements of Peter's style into his own playing. Especially in the beginning, during the remaining makeup era. Carr was oddly concerned with his role as a replacement for Peter, supposedly. But Pete was very cordial towards Eric. I don't know if they became friends, but there was no animosity. Pete told him, "have fun with it."
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As a drummer AND lifelong Kiss fanatic, I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that ERIC CARR NEVER COPIED ANYTHING Criscoula did drum-wise (except for the framework of the classics). That intro is all Carr. Go to bed.
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This isn’t a “copy”, by any means.

What a powerful lineup, though. The songs were played too fast at times, of course, but that KISS lineup was amazing.
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I would love to have heard Eric on Alive III Hell, alive III should have been the Aminalize tape...
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Listened to the whole song in 0.75. Life feels faster now after.
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Funny, Peter Criss was always far out of my mind while listening to and watching Eric Carr plays this.
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Uh, no.
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No.
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I played drums for 11 years or so and...

No. Eric didn't copy that from Peter. Those are significantly different parts.
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Nope.
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Surely this thread should be Eric S copied
from Peter given he wears his makeup and is told to play in a ‘classic’ style?
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I see it. Eric Carr used drumsticks. Peter Criss used drumsticks. Something something scab with no integrity.
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Anomaly wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 1:57 pm I see it. Eric Carr used drumsticks. Peter Criss used drumsticks. Something something scab with no integrity.
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Eric's style, vibe, feel, mood and whole damn approach couldn't be further from Peter's.
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Will tell you one thing Peter could do that Eric couldn’t though -

The rolls during the chorus of KOTNW.
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whitesnake7575 wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 6:27 pm Will tell you one thing Peter could do that Eric couldn’t though -

The rolls during the chorus of KOTNW.
Oh come on! Just stop it. Ridiculous.
And as a former drummer many many years ago those 2 parts are different, not even close.
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Sorry? What two parts?

I’m talking about one part. The drum rolls during the chorus of King of the Night time World.

Eric didn’t have the feel for it.

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whitesnake7575 wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 6:27 pm Will tell you one thing Peter could do that Eric couldn’t though -

The rolls during the chorus of KOTNW.
There’s a difference between not being able to do something and choosing to do something a bit differently. Eric Carr’s version of KOTNW was played at warp speed so he changed up that part accordingly.

Both Eric’s could play anything Peter laid down. The hardest part would be matching his unique style & groove. But could Peter match the playing on King Of The Mountain or Hate? It goes both ways.
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whitesnake7575 wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 6:45 pm Sorry? What two parts?

I’m talking about one part. The drum rolls during the chorus of King of the Night time World.

Eric didn’t have the feel for it.

I think the 2 parts comment was referring to the original question (WM vs GOT)...
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So.
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Njet.
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Eric is accenting the rolls differently than Peter did. It's a different "feel". To say he can't play them as good as Peter is plain stupid. That's not a knock against Peter or Eric, I prefer Peter's way of playing it. When I played the song I played it like Peter, I loved his style of playing.
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Not Carr.
Not Singer.
Or just about Everyone Else I’ve ever heard play it.

NO ONE can play Peter’s entire drum part to
ROCK AND ROLL ALL NITE correctly, except for
Peter George Criscola.
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It is different but I can understand the way you're hearing it.

It's not a copy because Peter doesn't play the toms on GOT, it's just the kick and snare drum. Also, Eric is placing the fill in a different part of the bar, but yeah I understand why you're hearing it as similar.
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It's two different drum parts. But thanks for reminding me that this version of GoT is great.
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