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For Those That Haven't heard It (Peter and Gene) Before KISS.

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Peter, Gene, Mike Brand, Pete Shepley, and Michael Benvenga (after Chelsea and before KISS)
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What's this?
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Didn’t hear about this before.

Wonder why Paul wasn’t invited along
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TheSpoiler wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 9:34 am What's this?
Never heard of this before....but googled it and found this...
https://www.kiss-related-recordings.nl/ ... anity.html
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What a coincidence that Peter and Gene were on this and didn't apparently know each other yet. Never saw this before, very interesting. Wonder how Gene got involved in this. If the Admin knows anything that would be great.
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41Mets wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 12:43 pm What a coincidence that Peter and Gene were on this and didn't apparently know each other yet. Never saw this before, very interesting. Wonder how Gene got involved in this.
I think they did know each other. It was after Peter joined G+P, and he was still associated with the Chelsea guys. So when they recorded this, they invited Peter to play on it, and he brought along his new pal Chaim to slap the bass on a couple ditties.
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torgotheme wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 12:46 pm
41Mets wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 12:43 pm What a coincidence that Peter and Gene were on this and didn't apparently know each other yet. Never saw this before, very interesting. Wonder how Gene got involved in this.
I think they did know each other. It was after Peter joined G+P, and he was still associated with the Chelsea guys. So when they recorded this, they invited Peter to play on it, and he brought along his new pal Chaim to slap the bass on a couple ditties.
If that is true, thanks, then this would appear to be from 1973.
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Very nice!
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This is after Peter had joined Gene and Paul, and predates the KISS demo, so it's in fact the first time the KISS rhythm section recorded together. Captain Sanity was the new duo of Mike Brand and Pete Shepley from Chelsea.

Like Paul and Gene had done sessions as backing vocalists, Gene and Peter were the session rhythm section for the songs "Nice To Know Somebody To Believe" and "Moonrider". Gene's bass sound is very recognizable in these. I understand the album was shelved.

It's all detailed in the book Partners In Crime, Vol. II.



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This is incredible. 43 years as a fan and I never new this. Groovy tunes
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sugardaddy wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 2:10 pm This is incredible. 43 years as a fan and I never new this. Groovy tunes
I felt the same reading that book, and went straight to YouTube to check the tunes out. It is incredible this has never come up before. Had the album actually been released of course we probably would have known about it all along.
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Frankly, the tunes sound like bad Monkees tracks. But their historical significance (the ones with Peter and Gene anyway) definitely cannot be denied.
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Another interesting detail is that this was recorded at Bell Sound studio where of course Gene and Peter would return later in the year.
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sugardaddy wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 2:10 pm This is incredible. 43 years as a fan and I never new this. Groovy tunes
Me either...hard to believe we went this long without knowing about it
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LoveGun77 wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 5:35 am
sugardaddy wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 2:10 pm This is incredible. 43 years as a fan and I never new this. Groovy tunes
Me either...hard to believe we went this long without knowing about it
The album was never released.
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redinthesky wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 12:23 am Frankly, the tunes sound like bad Monkees tracks. But their historical significance (the ones with Peter and Gene anyway) definitely cannot be denied.

Agreed.
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Tito wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 12:48 am Another interesting detail is that this was recorded at Bell Sound studio where of course Gene and Peter would return later in the year.
Yep. And not that we’ll ever know, but it would be interesting to bring this album up to Peter today and see what his recollections would be.
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Robdaddy wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 7:50 am
Tito wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 12:48 am Another interesting detail is that this was recorded at Bell Sound studio where of course Gene and Peter would return later in the year.
Yep. And not that we’ll ever know, but it would be interesting to bring this album up to Peter today and see what his recollections would be.
I'd be even more interested in Gene's recollections about it, as that all had been Peter's scene anyway. Gene was the one in a new environment, brought along as the bassist from the drummer's new band. Also, I wonder if this session has anything to do with KISS coming to the same studio with Kerner and Wise. Could it be that Gene and Peter suggested it based on this experience?
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Wow! Thanks!
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Wow, amazing. I, too, had never heard of this project, and I've been a die-hard since around '77. Incredible!
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