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I think he will, but I don’t think he’ll wear the costume. I think he’ll just come out and play in street clothes for two or three song

When it comes down to it and then all this is the last chance to ever play on that side of the stage again, I also think they will see Peter, too, show up and play a couple songs
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Unless they are in makeup then I’d rather they not be involved. There really is no point. It’s a tricky situation, but getting up on stage in street clothes isn’t the answer.
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Tommy in Spaceman gear and Ace in plainclothes? Not gonna happen.
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That would be a pretty shitty way to honor the legend.
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Tommy must exit for that moment...Ace walks out in full costume...crowd goes wild. Only way.
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missingdiver wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 5:06 pm Tommy must exit for that moment...Ace walks out in full costume...crowd goes wild. Only way.
This I agree with :D !!!
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Yeah maybe so - but but Good news/bad news, Doc ......if they were to pay Frehley to come out for a one-off gig, they’re going to have to alter YOUR compensation to stay on budget. Be careful
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Ace and Peter would have to be able to fit in costumes. Peter probably could, not sure about Ace.
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Rick7301 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pm Ace and Peter would have to be able to fit in costumes. Peter probably could, not sure about Ace.
When was the last time you saw a pic of Ace? He is way slimmer than he was on the PC tour.
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Under The Rose wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 5:35 pm
Rick7301 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pm Ace and Peter would have to be able to fit in costumes. Peter probably could, not sure about Ace.
When was the last time you saw a pic of Ace? He is way slimmer than he was on the PC tour.
Yep he looks great at the moment actually, his new hottie has whipped him into shape
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Ace already said he wouldn’t play onstage with Tommy if Tommy is wearing his makeup and costume. Frankenace will have to sit out for a couple of songs. Probably the encore.
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whitesnake7575 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 6:05 pm She said hey Frehley Frehley, lay off the gravy
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Money this , money that

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I don’t think Ace will play in make up and costume because Tommy’s already there in Ace’s make up and costume

Ace is not overlooking Tommy playing his role.

I think Ace will suck it up and come out and play in street clothes

And as I said, I think we will see Peter too
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They should be both wear the make up and have fun with it--
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I think Doc was talking out of his ass to a degree...I think it’ll be brought up during the next phone with G&P. “...doc, why would you say that?”
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acevid wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 6:17 pm I think Doc was talking out of his ass to a degree...I think it’ll be brought up during the next phone with G&P. “...doc, why would you say that?”
It’s been long reported that ALL remaining members have been invited to the final show(s), whether they agree with the terms of the offer is another thing.

With VV being the exception as he’s been invited to the show but not been asked to play (Gene’s words)
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whitesnake7575 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 6:05 pm She said hey Frehley Frehley, lay off the gravy
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Yeah, I don't get that. She wanted Ace, shacked up with him, when he was double-chinned, with a cannonball gut hanging. Then, once the 'honeymoon' period expired, after a while, she's making him wear matching outfits and doing aerobics. The guy's 70 years old, seek not to alter him!
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Doc knows they will sell more dvds and merchandise, maybe even a PPV event if they could Ace and Peter to come and play. I would not bet on it happening.
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Do they make the Spaceman costume in 4XL?


Sorry, I kid, I kid. (I've gone from large T-shirts to 2XL over the last 30 years myself...)
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missingdiver wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 5:06 pm Tommy must exit for that moment...Ace walks out in full costume...crowd goes wild. Only way.
Agreed. Two Spacemen is equally as awkward as one dressed and one in plainclothes.

If Ace were to do this, it would be for Rock and Roll All Nite or some big finish. I doubt they pull out Shock Me, even.
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wjs296 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 6:51 pm Doc knows they will sell more dvds and merchandise, maybe even a PPV event if they could Ace and Peter to come and play. I would not bet on it happening.
Having Ace on the bill doesn’t sell one ticket more to a final show, it would be a sell out regardless. It’s just a nice gesture at this point.

As a PPV they would be selling to the whole army, that’s a great idea.
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acevid wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 6:17 pm I think Doc was talking out of his ass to a degree...I think it’ll be brought up during the next phone with G&P. “...doc, why would you say that?”
Ya think!!! Noooo, never...... :lol:
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The EOTR tour is about G+P taking one final victory lap to celebrate the band they created by all themselves without help from anyone else. There's no way A+P will be allowed to take that spotlight away (unless tickets are soft in key markets).
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I hope that Ace's last time in the Space-Ace getup isn't the 2007 Dunkin' Donuts commercial
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Is it ok to post this could only mean one thing?!
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This is never going to happen. As already being said, Gene and Paul doing one last round and they surely will not offer anything half decent to Ace and Peter for ruining the limelight for them. And vice versa, there is no way that Ace nor Peter will get up in street closes next to their impersonators. The whole notion is just silly. The EOTR Tour will end as it started – with Gene, Paul, Spacegimp and Catboy. I also think that both Peter and Ace don’t cut it anymore and they both would need serious “help” to do a half decent job. Paul can still play the Starchild well enough, without using too much of his broken vocal cords (plus the ever efficient vocal smoothing pedal) and Gene does the demon also half justice. Peter and Ace on the other hand have lost their chops and I would think they would look for any opportunity NOT to do it. In Ace’s case he choose “I will only come back if I can claim back my throne” and Peter has retired, which is his jail free card. No nothing like that is going to happen. Gene, Paul, Spacegimp and Catboy will finish this of as KIss (not KISS). Ace and Peter are not even doing interviews for the KISS documentary, but they will go up on stage and play with KISS… Nah!!!
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FiveCardStud wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 7:05 pm
wjs296 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 6:51 pm Doc knows they will sell more dvds and merchandise, maybe even a PPV event if they could Ace and Peter to come and play. I would not bet on it happening.
Having Ace on the bill doesn’t sell one ticket more to a final show, it would be a sell out regardless. It’s just a nice gesture at this point.

As a PPV they would be selling to the whole army, that’s a great idea.

I am not sure the whole army would buy it without Ace and Peter, take them out of the equation and this is just an EOR show with canned vocals. The PPV numbers would match Dubai. What Ace and Peter bring to the table for a PPV is a chance for the Kiss fans from the 70's who gave up the band long ago, one last chance to see them on stage again. That said, I don't see them being on board at this point. That ship sailed already. G&P want this to be their victory lap.
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This is the only way it could happen.

KISS current lineup do the main set.

1st Encore with Ace and Peter in makeup (no Tommy or Eric): Shock Me, Beth, Rocket Ride and Black Diamond.

Final Encore. Everyone comes out....original 4 in costumes. Bruce, Tommy and Eric not wearing makeup or costumes. Play RARAN.

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Under The Rose wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 8:34 pm This is the only way it could happen.

KISS current lineup do the main set.

1st Encore with Ace and Peter in makeup (no Tommy or Eric): Shock Me, Beth, Rocket Ride and Black Diamond.

Final Encore. Everyone comes out....original 4 in costumes. Bruce, Tommy and Eric not wearing makeup or costumes. Play RARAN.

Happy days.
Great. Will never happen.
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If Ace and/or Peter are up there, Tommy should become "The Ankh Warrior" and Eric should become "The Fox" for those nights. Would be a good way to pay tribute two other Kiss members without having to deal with the batshit crazy one that's still living.
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Paul and Gene will do whatever they want.

Ace & Peter will take what they give them.

Hey...it worked for the Reunion.
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IF this does happen Ace will play on RARAN the final song, just my thoughts
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nibbler1982 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 8:49 pm Paul and Gene will do whatever they want.

Ace & Peter will take what they give them.

Hey...it worked for the Reunion.
Ace and Peter aren’t desperate this time. I doubt it will happen. Not worth it from either side’s perspective. They won’t do it for the fans otherwise they would have played at the RARHOF.
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Berninio wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 7:44 pm This is never going to happen. As already being said, Gene and Paul doing one last round and they surely will not offer anything half decent to Ace and Peter for ruining the limelight for them. And vice versa, there is no way that Ace nor Peter will get up in street closes next to their impersonators. The whole notion is just silly. The EOTR Tour will end as it started – with Gene, Paul, Spacegimp and Catboy. I also think that both Peter and Ace don’t cut it anymore and they both would need serious “help” to do a half decent job. Paul can still play the Starchild well enough, without using too much of his broken vocal cords (plus the ever efficient vocal smoothing pedal) and Gene does the demon also half justice. Peter and Ace on the other hand have lost their chops and I would think they would look for any opportunity NOT to do it. In Ace’s case he choose “I will only come back if I can claim back my throne” and Peter has retired, which is his jail free card. No nothing like that is going to happen. Gene, Paul, Spacegimp and Catboy will finish this of as KIss (not KISS). Ace and Peter are not even doing interviews for the KISS documentary, but they will go up on stage and play with KISS… Nah!!!
Ace has already said he is not interested in doing just one show. So no it is not happening.
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whitesnake7575 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 6:05 pm She said hey Frehley Frehley, lay off the gravy
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So be sure to grab yo tix to all the shows of the remainder of the tour, cos you never know!


I think Ace won't play with them on a big stage again. They tried so hard to accomplish their mission of gaining new concert audience who don't know who Ace is to only plug him in and make it an event? They don't need the headache.
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I am doubtful we will see either Ace or Peter perform with KISS again. 😔

It would be nice, but I just think there is too many hurt feelings involved.
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For some reason I can't grasp this. What does it mean?

"We haven't had that many band members in Kiss. Since I've been there, there's been four — two different ones — and that's it."
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All just a marketing ploy to get people to buy tickets and for people to keep hold of their tickets just in case he comes to the show.
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We got a member of the family here tonight. he's sat up there in the executive box with his family. Ace Frehley everyone!
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FiveCardStud wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 6:08 pm Money this , money that

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banks wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 2:20 am For some reason I can't grasp this. What does it mean?

"We haven't had that many band members in Kiss. Since I've been there, there's been four — two different ones — and that's it."
Sounds like he's not including Paul and Gene in that. "We" as in Paul, Gene and himself, "band members" as in everyone else.
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Ace and Peter will not get paid - other than peanuts, so they will decline.

G&P will then say: "You know, we invited them, but they declined."

End of story.
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lord71 wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 6:08 am Ace and Peter will not get paid - other than peanuts, so they will decline.

G&P will then say: "You know, we invited them, but they declined."

End of story.
If I was in A&P's position, I'd do it for free, and get my final moment in front of a Kiss audience. If for nothing else, it would do their legacy a world of good to get one last hurrah. But if they won't do it because "the money isn't right", well.......
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I say if Paul and Gene offer anything it’ll be accepted.

Ace has been begging for years and has shown he will play for peanuts.

We also know that Peter has accepted a SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT pay cut from KISS for World Domination.

No leverage.

No payoff.
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nibbler1982 wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 6:21 am I say if Paul and Gene offer anything it’ll be accepted.

Ace has been begging for years and has shown he will play for peanuts.

We also know that Peter has accepted a SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT pay cut from KISS for World Domination.

No leverage.

No payoff.
You don't seem to understand what Ace has been "begging" for.

Your logic don't check out.
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