
What was worse?
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Re: What was worse?
You forgot KISS at the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show lol. My vote goes to Flo and Eddie.
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Re: What was worse?
Flo and Eddie was the very moment they hit rock bottom.
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Re: What was worse?
You forgot the Kiss Walmart thingy too.
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Re: What was worse?
Or the Lane Bryant performance.
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Re: What was worse?
Or the Super Bowl.
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Re: What was worse?
Shark
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Re: What was worse?
The Phantom of the Park was the worst, by far.
The other embarassments can be argued to not have been controlled, like sharks showing up or not. But The Phantom was completely KIϟϟ's call. Anywhere along the way, the suck could have been recognized and mitigated.
Instead ... they're all like, "... what have we done?!" Yes, there was some naiveté involved but even with that taken into account ... someone involved in the project knew better. But they went and released it, anyway!
The other embarassments can be argued to not have been controlled, like sharks showing up or not. But The Phantom was completely KIϟϟ's call. Anywhere along the way, the suck could have been recognized and mitigated.
Instead ... they're all like, "... what have we done?!" Yes, there was some naiveté involved but even with that taken into account ... someone involved in the project knew better. But they went and released it, anyway!
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Re: What was worse?
I’ll go with this as well. No Paul, correct?
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Re: What was worse?
The shark show, because it was billed as a performance at sea for great whites and ended up being a show just offshore for tuna. With only three members.
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Re: What was worse?
I’m going with the parade. That top picture is just emotionally deflating.
The shark thing, nobody really gave a shit much outside of this group.
The other two things, you can argue that KISS was still relevant at the time, so people were still interested and looking. Same actually for the super bowl, Olympics, or what have you.
But just take a hard look at that top pic......
You’ve got a chubby majorette probably volunteering to work the parade with her Dad, dressed in used marching band uniforms and were probably hoping to be escorting Santa’s Sleigh .... but they’re stuck holding a banner that looks to be made by the local retiree sewing club.
Then you’ve got KISS ..... the band who once ruled the world - being towed on a trailer with a pick up truck down a street, dodging piles of horse shit along the parade route. With half the parade-goers thinking, “these clowns aren’t very entertaining; where’s the ones who all get out of that little red car with the squeeze horns”. Oh look who’s coming up next behind them kids.... it’s the Smokey The Bear float!!! This is KISS. MY KISS!!!! Come on man.
The shark thing, nobody really gave a shit much outside of this group.
The other two things, you can argue that KISS was still relevant at the time, so people were still interested and looking. Same actually for the super bowl, Olympics, or what have you.
But just take a hard look at that top pic......
You’ve got a chubby majorette probably volunteering to work the parade with her Dad, dressed in used marching band uniforms and were probably hoping to be escorting Santa’s Sleigh .... but they’re stuck holding a banner that looks to be made by the local retiree sewing club.
Then you’ve got KISS ..... the band who once ruled the world - being towed on a trailer with a pick up truck down a street, dodging piles of horse shit along the parade route. With half the parade-goers thinking, “these clowns aren’t very entertaining; where’s the ones who all get out of that little red car with the squeeze horns”. Oh look who’s coming up next behind them kids.... it’s the Smokey The Bear float!!! This is KISS. MY KISS!!!! Come on man.
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Re: What was worse?
I remember Paul didn’t play. What was the reason? Illness?Four-Who-Are-One wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:01 am The shark show, because it was billed as a performance at sea for great whites and ended up being a show just offshore for tuna. With only three members.
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Re: What was worse?
The shark thing.
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Re: What was worse?
The sharks probably figured with all that merchandising there's bound to be Shark Repellent KISS Spray around too.Four-Who-Are-One wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:01 am The shark show, because it was billed as a performance at sea for great whites and ended up being a show just offshore for tuna. With only three members.
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Re: What was worse?
Haha!JohnBergless wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:03 am
I’m going with the parade. That top picture is just emotionally deflating.
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You’ve got a chubby majorette probably volunteering to work the parade with her Dad, dressed in used marching band uniforms and were probably hoping to be escorting Santa’s Sleigh .... but they’re stuck holding a banner that looks to be made by the local retiree sewing club.
Aww ... the chubby majorette! Gotta love the look on her father's face like, "don't be showing anybody pics of this ... not with me in it."
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Re: What was worse?
Flo & Eddie - and it couldn't have come at a worse time in their career.
What were they thinking?
The rest were fine.
What were they thinking?
The rest were fine.
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Re: What was worse?
At least Phantom was an event many looked back at fondly, even if they admit it was hokey as al hell. There was the excitement, the anticipation, the gathering around the TV set. An yes, I'd venture to say more kids did not initially poo poo the movie. They probably thought it was the coolest thing ever.
I doubt many are going to look at the Shark event and say...damn, that was the greatest moment of my entire life.
No.
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Re: What was worse?
Tito wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:07 amThe sharks probably figured with all that merchandising there's bound to be Shark Repellent KISS Spray around too.Four-Who-Are-One wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:01 am The shark show, because it was billed as a performance at sea for great whites and ended up being a show just offshore for tuna. With only three members.

The shark show is ridiculous, but the Macy's Parade made me sad on Thanksgiving, which is pretty hard to do.
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Re: What was worse?
I also vote for...


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Re: What was worse?
Shark show hands down for me. I don’t see the Macys parade as the giant embarrassment that everyone else does. It is just not a giant, over the top spectacle we expect from KISS. KMtPotP is loved by most fans because it is so cheesy. Looking back, it is exactly what you would expect from KISS in 1978. The Flo and Eddie show was just a local TV show and they were just doing a stupid skit. Dumb skit to be sure, but nothing too cringe worthy to me. I simply can’t come up with any excuse or any redeeming value to the shark show. Just stupid as Hell on every level, now and forever.
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Re: What was worse?
Seeing one of the greatest rock frontmen of the 70s like this was not fun


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Re: What was worse?
Perhaps, but ...His Majesty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:54 am At least Phantom was an event many looked back at fondly, even if they admit it was hokey as al hell.
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I doubt many are going to look at the Shark event and say...damn, that was the greatest moment of my entire life.
Paul's abscense was keenly felt, indeed!Crown Royal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:38 am The lack of sharks at that event was not the reason it was embarrassing
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Re: What was worse?
That parade picture is one of the saddest things I've ever seen lol.
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Re: What was worse?
Yes.Spaceace2000ric wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:15 am That parade picture is one of the saddest things I've ever seen lol.

Even Al Roker couldn’t cheer me up after that.
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Re: What was worse?
FlamingRuth wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:20 amYes.Spaceace2000ric wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:15 am That parade picture is one of the saddest things I've ever seen lol.![]()
Even Al Roker couldn’t cheer me up after that.

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Re: What was worse?
I'd say these are all great competitors.
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Re: What was worse?
Flo & Eddie
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Re: What was worse?
This face says it all
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Re: What was worse?
And the KISS float was a real life version of the poop emoji....
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Re: What was worse?
jump the shark
the shark thing was the stupidest, if that's even a word
the shark thing was the stupidest, if that's even a word
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Re: What was worse?
Supposedly.... although Gene later said that Paul hurt himself.rwgriffith wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:04 amI remember Paul didn’t play. What was the reason? Illness?Four-Who-Are-One wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:01 am The shark show, because it was billed as a performance at sea for great whites and ended up being a show just offshore for tuna. With only three members.
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Re: What was worse?
He also tried.
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Re: What was worse?
My vote is for the shark show.
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Re: What was worse?
A bruised ego CAN take some time to heal...Den Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:42 pmSupposedly.... although Gene later said that Paul hurt himself.rwgriffith wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:04 amI remember Paul didn’t play. What was the reason? Illness?Four-Who-Are-One wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:01 am The shark show, because it was billed as a performance at sea for great whites and ended up being a show just offshore for tuna. With only three members.
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Re: What was worse?
After The Deed was done, did her face fall with this expression of, "what did I do?!"
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Re: What was worse?
Kiss meets the phantom is awesome for us fans still today. I mean have you been to a convention that shows the movie? It’s pure cheese and crackers fun man!
However; the Sharks and Macy’s are straight fonzie jumps to stupidville
However; the Sharks and Macy’s are straight fonzie jumps to stupidville
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Re: What was worse?
at least those were funny on purpose
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Re: What was worse?
Embarassment.rwgriffith wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:04 amI remember Paul didn’t play. What was the reason? Illness?Four-Who-Are-One wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:01 am The shark show, because it was billed as a performance at sea for great whites and ended up being a show just offshore for tuna. With only three members.
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Re: What was worse?
Damn. Grandma Paul.Crown Royal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:41 am Seeing one of the greatest rock frontmen of the 70s like this was not fun
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Re: What was worse?
Well, I’m sure Old Andy remembers Gene explaining to us that this was video from many years ago, back before Gene had gained the confidence to expose himself in public.
Oh wait...
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Re: What was worse?
Holy crap is that abysmal. Thank God they didn’t stay too long at the party.
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Re: What was worse?
Shark show