Am I the only one who dislikes the Euro version of KISS meets the Phantom?

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Am I the only one who dislikes the Euro version of KISS meets the Phantom?

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Watching KISSology 2 and some parts of the Attack of the phantoms.

Geez, I hate the editing of it.

Doesn't make sense.

For example, when KISS shows up to start the show, you see the drum riser before they start the show...just weird.

Can't really watch it!
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yeah--- old Andy likes the original u.s. version the best....
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No. Both the euro & the domestic versions are pure s*it. TURDS to the highest degree. :flower:
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Yeah i prefer the original with the funky 70’s jive ass music.
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Attack of the Phantoms is akin to trying to re-cut Mariah Carey's 2016 NYE performance to make it look coherent and compelling.

It. is. impossible.
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Watched them back to back one day. Attack has the better picture quality but the U.S. cut is far superior. Don't think that I could handle Attacks again. Unwatchable really. Now if only the U.S. version could get the Blu Ray treatment from Shout Factory!👍
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Why anyone would watch either version multiple times is beyond me
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Post by CHRIS ARMY »

It was really cool to see the version on KISSOLOGy because I hadn't seen it before. And, the quality was amazing. Also cool to have the solo songs in it. But, overall, the original is better. I would love to see a stand alone bluray set to come out of the original.
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CHRIS ARMY wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:38 am It was really cool to see the version on KISSOLOGy because I hadn't seen it before. And, the quality was amazing. Also cool to have the solo songs in it. But, overall, the original is better. I would love to see a stand alone bluray set to come out of the original.
SO Attack of the phantoms have solo songs in it?

That's pretty much the only version that I saw, when I got the DVD back in the day. It was indeed confusing, as I thought that there were two films,
'meets' and 'attack'.

So KISSOLOGY version is attack or the original 'meets'?
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I have no strong feelings about this topic.

Either way, the movie is camp and terrific.
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missingdiver wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:30 pm Yeah i prefer the original with the funky 70’s jive ass music.
Same here. 8)
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lord71 wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:47 am SO Attack of the phantoms have solo songs in it?
Yes.

lord71 wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:47 am I thought that there were two films,
'meets' and 'attack'.
Correct. Well, two versions of the film.

lord71 wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:47 am So KISSOLOGY version is attack or the original 'meets'?
Attack Of The Phantoms.
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Marty Scurll wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:24 pm Watched them back to back one day. Attack has the better picture quality but the U.S. cut is far superior. Don't think that I could handle Attacks again. Unwatchable really. Now if only the U.S. version could get the Blu Ray treatment from Shout Factory!👍
I'd love nothing more than both versions (American Television & International Theatrical) released in 4K Ultra-HD & Blu-ray. And you are absolutely right ...Shout Factory is without any doubt the prefect company to do this for KISS & fans. And the good news is that both films have already been scanned at 4K ...simply license the property from Warner & KISS.

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battra wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:06 am I have no strong feelings about this topic.

Either way, the movie is camp and terrific.
Agreed. Both are great fun, but it's not like you'd be able to recut the source material into Citizen Kane.
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DoggFather wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:46 pm I hate the editing of it.

Doesn't make sense.
Agreed.

Chopping up the concert sequences and rearranging them was totally asinine.

And it’s dopey to “fight” to songs from the solo albums.
Give me that 70’s funky soundtrack - a true sign of the times.

And what’s with cutting out or editing 3 or 4 of Ace’s lines from the script?
How did that “help” the movie?
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drgbootz wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:45 am Why anyone would watch either version multiple times is beyond me
Because they're funny. And seeing young KISS is always fun, no matter the situation.
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I would be surprised if anyone preferred the Euro version
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Man I’d love a blue ray with both versions, bloopers, commentary, and the whole concert...I know part of it’s on YouTube, but I’m looking for the definitive collection of my kindergarten years greatest movie (I didn’t get out much).

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I much prefer the Euro version it's a much better movie with that cut.
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jkiss wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:28 amAnd the good news is that both films have already been scanned at 4K ...simply license the property from Warner & KISS.

How do you know? And is KMTPOTP in 4:3 or 16:9?
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FlamingRuth wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:40 am
missingdiver wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:30 pm Yeah i prefer the original with the funky 70’s jive ass music.
Same here. 8)
We need a soundtrack. Stat.
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His Majesty wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:17 am
FlamingRuth wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:40 am
missingdiver wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:30 pm Yeah i prefer the original with the funky 70’s jive ass music.
Same here. 8)
We need a soundtrack. Stat.
Sometimes I like to watch old cop shows from the 70's just for the funky jive ass music.
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FlamingRuth wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:33 am
His Majesty wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:17 am
FlamingRuth wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:40 am
missingdiver wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:30 pm Yeah i prefer the original with the funky 70’s jive ass music.
Same here. 8)
We need a soundtrack. Stat.
Sometimes I like to watch old cop shows from the 70's just for the funky jive ass music.
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His Majesty wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:34 am
FlamingRuth wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:33 am
His Majesty wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:17 am
FlamingRuth wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:40 am
missingdiver wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:30 pm Yeah i prefer the original with the funky 70’s jive ass music.
Same here. 8)
We need a soundtrack. Stat.
Sometimes I like to watch old cop shows from the 70's just for the funky jive ass music.
The theme from SWAT?

Pure, unfiltered gold. Just sheer perfection.
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I've been watching episodes of "Starsky And Hutch". The background music on those episodes are killer.

A lot of percussion, Moog synth, clavinet and wah.
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FlamingRuth wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:52 am

Yeah! Barney Miller is good, too!
Oh God yes!!
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Eddie Van Hazel wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:54 am I've been watching episodes of "Starsky And Hutch". The background music on those episodes are killer.

A lot of percussion, Moog synth, clavinet and wah.
I know, right?!
Baretta is another one of my favorites--" Keep your eye on the sparrow"... 8)
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Four-Who-Are-One wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:52 am
jkiss wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:28 amAnd the good news is that both films have already been scanned at 4K ...simply license the property from Warner & KISS.

How do you know? And is KMTPOTP in 4:3 or 16:9?
Someone that worked on KISSOLOGY told me so ...don't know if it's fact, but it makes sense to me (come from the world of entertainment myself). Both versions were scanned at 4K (@ their original (film) aspect ratio) when preparing KISSOLOGY & are in the possession of Warner Bros.

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jkiss wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:06 amSomeone that worked on KISSOLOGY told me so ...don't know if it's fact, but it makes sense to me (come from the world of entertainment myself). Both versions were scanned at 4K (@ their original (film) aspect ratio) when preparing KISSOLOGY & are in the possession of Warner Bros.

:wink:


Awesome. I guess it’s one of those niche, so-bad-it’s-good products that’s more likely to get a digital than a physical release. But this is KISS, so you never know...

Time for a petition: #ReleaseThe4KPhantom
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(To think, there’s probably some KISS freak who works for Warner and has them in their personal collection)
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I have never seen Kiss Meets the Phantom. I remember I had a high school hockey game the night it aired. And it never re aired ... and I lost interest over time in seeing it. I may grab the Kissology disc and give it a viewing. 42 years later 🙂
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Much Too Soon wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:12 pm I have never seen Kiss Meets the Phantom. I remember I had a high school hockey game the night it aired. And it never re aired ... and I lost interest over time in seeing it. I may grab the Kissology disc and give it a viewing. 42 years later 🙂
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KMTPOTP is unofficially available on DVD - can't recall how bad the quality is, but it's at least watchable.
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Four-Who-Are-One wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:11 pm KMTPOTP is unofficially available on DVD - can't recall how bad the quality is, but it's at least watchable.
Yes! I got my DVD copy in either 2004 or 2005 as a birthday gift from my girlfriend. It was released on Cheezy Flicks video. Kinda grainy, but completely watchable.
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I saw the original airing of the U.S. version, and that was one time too many.
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