Paul Stanley Black Friday smashed guitar sale

rsauye · Post by **rsauye** » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:44 pm

https://paulstanleyguitars.com/product- ... d-guitars/

Rhiannon · Post by **Rhiannon** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:45 am

Really

How about a Black Friday sale of some demos from your career.Something reasonable for the long time 40 years old fan, like me , has a family and craves for something tangible from Kiss this year.

ypke · Post by **ypke** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:40 am

You can get those guitars working for around 325 euro (ps60 model came up first in my search, didn't really dive in). I'd rather have that than a broken one barely touched by Paul.

KingOfHearts89 · Post by **KingOfHearts89** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:42 am

So out of 33 shows on the KISSWORLD Tour (2017), he only sold 9 broken guitars?!? Are they really worth clinging onto?

If he wants the Glasgow one gone I'll take it for a couple of hundred

gene therapist · Post by **gene therapist** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:19 am

Asinine. (The first word that came to my mind when visiting that page.)

Come to think of it, rearranging the letters a bit, you also get "insane".

Hotter Than Heck · Post by **Hotter Than Heck** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:30 am

And to think, all those years he just handed those smashed guitar pieces into the crowd...

Ratmir · Post by **Ratmir** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:41 am

Looks like guitars from most shows are unsold

Seanjc · Post by **Seanjc** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:47 am

A few years ago, he had a similar sale and I contemplated buying the smashed guitar from the last KISS show I attended in 2012.

Ultimately, I couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger. Yeah, it'd be a cool memento to have but there wouldn't be a really cool story behind how I got it. If it was say, being auctioned off for a good cause I'd feel less self-conscious about potentially giving $2500 for something like that.

However, I just can't personally justify spending that much on a cheap guitar Paul held for a few minutes.

Tommyr · Post by **Tommyr** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:31 am

I'm not paying $2,500 for a smashed guitar. You got to be retarded to buy those.

SureKnowSomething · Post by **SureKnowSomething** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:05 am

He may have better luck if he offered different mounting/display options. It's not as if anyone expects to play one. As is, they're somewhere between a unique collectable and going in the trash can.

Why not just sell personalized, intact, cheap guitars for an overly inflated price instead? He'd probably sell a whole lot more selling those vs a piece of junk.

Nellcote71 · Post by **Nellcote71** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:14 am

gene therapist wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:19 am Asinine. (The first word that came to my mind when visiting that page.)

Come to think of it, rearranging the letters a bit, you also get "insane".

That’s our Starchild...

joma5477 · Post by **joma5477** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:27 am

SureKnowSomething wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:05 am Why not just sell personalized, intact, cheap guitars for an overly inflated price instead? He'd probably sell a whole lot more selling those vs a piece of junk.

Why not? Because the cheap, working guitars already have some value. He's trying to literally get money for nothing. He'd probably easily get it too if he brought the price down to like $500 or so. Not from me, but I bet they'd sell... Maybe he comes out ahead in the long run charging stupid for cheap, broken guitars though. He probably still sells a few at these ridic prices.

Soylent Gene · Post by **Soylent Gene** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:52 am

What a joke.

Homer Simpson · Post by **Homer Simpson** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:20 am

Hotter Than Heck wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:30 am And to think, all those years he just handed those smashed guitar pieces into the crowd...

The pre-lawsuit years.

alivecatman · Post by **alivecatman** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:23 am

I caught mine in 2006. I don't think I'll ever sell or would purchase one

Andy Capp · Post by **Andy Capp** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:05 pm

Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:52 am What a joke.

and yet once again old Andy agrees----

Stlouisblue · Post by **Stlouisblue** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:26 pm

Homer Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:20 am
Hotter Than Heck wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:30 am And to think, all those years he just handed those smashed guitar pieces into the crowd...
The pre-lawsuit years.

Can anyone on here confirm that KISS has been sued because of throwing shit into the audience? They throw broken guitar shards...tons of guitar pics...seems like in this day and age, heck even 20 years ago, they would be hit with lawsuits due to "fan injuries ". Of course they would settle out of court and have a non-disclosure agrrement so others wouldn't copy cat. But can anyone confirm they have been sued because of this?

Engine742 · Post by **Engine742** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:33 pm

Why do I see a corner of his garage with a pile of broken guitars. Don’t throw those out, they will be worth something someday. The price on the working guitars is even better starting at $15,000.

muddfoot · Post by **muddfoot** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:08 pm

Well you do get your choice of semi pre-canned messages written on the guitar

Lol

firekiss · Post by **firekiss** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:26 pm

Stlouisblue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:26 pm
Homer Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:20 am
Hotter Than Heck wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:30 am And to think, all those years he just handed those smashed guitar pieces into the crowd...
The pre-lawsuit years.
Can anyone on here confirm that KISS has been sued because of throwing shit into the audience? They throw broken guitar shards...tons of guitar pics...seems like in this day and age, heck even 20 years ago, they would be hit with lawsuits due to "fan injuries ". Of course they would settle out of court and have a non-disclosure agrrement so others wouldn't copy cat. But can anyone confirm they have been sued because of this?

I believe there was a point a few years back where they stopped throwing picks for a while due to a pending lawsuit.

Post by **Admin** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:01 pm

"According to the Grand Rapids Press, 27-year-old Carly M****** filed a suit last week against KISS, the Van Andel Arena, and three companies promoting the concert." May 8, 1997 show, finger entangled by guitar strings and mangled in fan scrum for the guitar...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/kiss- ... led?page=0

Tommyr · Post by **Tommyr** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:07 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:01 pm "According to the Grand Rapids Press, 27-year-old Carly M****** filed a suit last week against KISS, the Van Andel Arena, and three companies promoting the concert." May 8, 1997 show, finger entangled by guitar strings and mangled in fan scrum for the guitar...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/kiss- ... led?page=0

They'll have to (if they haven't already) print on the ticket back about not being liable like they do for baseball games.

Post by **Admin** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:16 pm

I was tempted. Very. Especially after taking the refund for the Kruise guitar. There were a few shows I attended with guitars available. The show in Oakland this year was by far the best concert experience I have ever had, and it would be nice to supplement some of the stuff from that show with the guitar for a display. Sadly, economic/employment uncertainty make it impossible for me to do so, having also just dropped substantial coin on a recent auction. But, even then, there's nothing quite like catching something thrown from the stage for yourself -- Eric's drumstick from that show makes me smile every time I walk by it (as does Peter's Farewell pick picked up from the floor). The guitar would be very nice, but I'll be happy with what I have.

Den Dennis · Post by **Den Dennis** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:24 pm

Vinnie-level pricing.

Nellcote71 · Post by **Nellcote71** » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:23 pm

How do you even know these guitars are from the shows he’s claiming or even know if they are really stage broken?

After Tommy has cleaned the leaves from his gutter I can see Paul asking “The Spaceman” to break some of those unboxed guitars!

kisshall2 · Post by **kisshall2** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:23 am

I bought mine two years ago from the Black Friday sale. At the time it (KISS Kruise VI) was my last KISS show. I thought the price was good for what it is.

Apparently there are two types of KISS fans. Those that like to buy stuff like this, and those who like to force their opinion on how others should spend their money.

KingOfHearts89 · Post by **KingOfHearts89** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:02 am

kisshall2 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:23 am I bought mine two years ago from the Black Friday sale. At the time it (KISS Kruise VI) was my last KISS show. I thought the price was good for what it is.

Apparently there are two types of KISS fans. Those that like to buy stuff like this, and those who like to force their opinion on how others should spend their money.

There's 3, the third is people wanting it but can't justify spending the money especially in these hard times.

drmoorejr · Post by **drmoorejr** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:34 am

I personally would not pay for a broken guitar.. A guitar is meant to be played not merely looked at.

kisshall2 · Post by **kisshall2** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:13 am

drmoorejr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:34 am I personally would not pay for a broken guitar.. A guitar is meant to be played not merely looked at.

That stage busted guitar is one of the most recognized KISS concert prop’s ever designed. It isn’t “just” a broken guitar.

Stanley! You look so cute · Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:25 am

Still got the neck of the guitar Paul smashed and threw into the crowd first time I ever saw them. Paying for something like this just feels wrong, its so corporate and tacky.

OHKISSFAN · Post by **OHKISSFAN** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:41 am

That stage busted guitar is one of the most recognized KISS concert prop’s ever designed. It isn’t “just” a broken guitar.

^^^
THIS.

Glasgow Kiss · Post by **Glasgow Kiss** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:43 am

I smashed this guitar for you, [NAME (Optional)]

on [CONCERT DATE]

No, Paul.

You smashed it for $2500, not for [NAME (Optional)], and it's now not even a guitar - it's a couple of bits of wood.

torgotheme · Post by **torgotheme** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:27 am

I wouldn't pay $25.00 for this. I'd grab it for a fiver to throw it in the trash, where it belongs.

stutterer · Post by **stutterer** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:32 am

Does breaking a neck joint count as smashing the whole guitar? Richie Blackmore at least took his sweet time with his fenders, those would be worth it.

Wichita77 · Post by **Wichita77** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:03 am

I'd like one but even the Black Friday price of $2,500 is far more than I'd want to spend for it. I'd probably have to chew on it even at $1,000 as you can get a signature model Ibanez for less than that. The Iceman is synonymous with Paul Stanley, so either would look great in the KISS Kave, but if I had my pick over a stage-smashed or playable PS-120, I'd pick the latter.

Now if it was from a show I attended...

Nellcote71 · Post by **Nellcote71** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:08 am

Do you guys even realize these are prebroken before he supposedly breaks them in concert?

Such a pathetic money grabbing shame

I’d say a concert used guitar pick is much more valuable/collectible

Wichita77 · Post by **Wichita77** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:19 pm

Nellcote71 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:08 am Do you guys even realize these are prebroken before he supposedly breaks them in concert?

Such a pathetic money grabbing shame

I’d say a concert used guitar pick is much more valuable/collectible

I don't know that anyone would buy one of these as a "valuable/collectible". There is obviously no shortage of them, and I don't think that anyone is thinking they'll make anything off of one of these some day, especially with so many available. Supply clearly exceeds demand.

Anyone who gets one of these is buying it for what it represents to them. Same with the sword and the Ultimate VIP experience... these are premium / expensive items for the fans who can afford to treat themselves to them. For the person who wished they were the one who caught the guitar at the first show they went to, it might make a great centerpiece to their KISS collection.

It's not really worth the money to me, but then again the $500 I paid for Ace to sign my Les Paul might not be worth it to someone else. Still, I can't hold back the smile whenever I see that guitar on the stand.

That makes it worth every penny.

BC Witch · Post by **BC Witch** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:12 pm

stutterer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:32 am Does breaking a neck joint count as smashing the whole guitar? Richie Blackmore at least took his sweet time with his fenders, those would be worth it.

I believe Ritchie switched his actual Strats for cheap copies to smash too. He would at least play them for part of the song though. There's a great interview with one of KISS's crew guys (the lighting tech I think) where he says he grew up listening to the Who and Hendrix who both destroyed actual Strats and Gibsons and he would cringe when Paul did it to his pre-sawn cheap guitars.

Tallbear13 · Post by **Tallbear13** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:15 pm

Made the joke that Gene could use his swords to blow fire at his grill then sell them used

metaldad · Post by **metaldad** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:01 pm

If you were to spend a ridiculous amount of money on one of Paul’s guitars , why in the world would you buy a broken one ?

Lofton23rdSt · Post by **Lofton23rdSt** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:12 pm

Do his old guitars that were broken and thrown in the crowd get listed on Ebay?

KissJJM · Post by **KissJJM** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:50 pm

LMAO! There's a sucker born every minute

Ratmir · Post by **Ratmir** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:05 pm

Nellcote71 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:08 am Do you guys even realize these are prebroken before he supposedly breaks them in concert?

This is actually a good point. His guitars have been pre-broken almost since the beginnging, but in the past he used to actually hit the guitar against the ground several times before breaking it.
But for the last 10-12 years he just swings it in the air four times without touching the ground. They try to mask it with explosions, but it's clearly visible and looks silly. And on the last time when he actually hits, the guitar breaks the moment it touches the ground.
I understand that he's doing it in order not to further injure his shoulders, but I think that if you no longer can properly execute a certain element of the show - let go of it. Rerplace it with something cool.
Like Gene replaced his flying routine on the EOTR tour. The levitating platform actually looks cool and refreshing.

balish · Post by **balish** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:13 pm

Hotter Than Heck wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:30 am And to think, all those years he just handed those smashed guitar pieces into the crowd...

And some "fans" who stood in the photopit would grab them and sell them to fans for $500-$1,000.
So Paul decided to do it himself.

Velvis · Post by **Velvis** » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:55 am

Hotter Than Heck wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:30 am And to think, all those years he just handed those smashed guitar pieces into the crowd...

In the 80s they were off brand POS. Not saying a broken Ibanez is worth $2500 though.

Tito · Post by **Tito** » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:20 am

balish wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:13 pm
Hotter Than Heck wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:30 am And to think, all those years he just handed those smashed guitar pieces into the crowd...

And some "fans" who stood in the photopit would grab them and sell them to fans for $500-$1,000.
So Paul decided to do it himself.

I seem to recall there was an incident with a member of the audience getting injured that stopped him from tossing the pieces out.

Allamericanman · Post by **Allamericanman** » Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:49 am

KingOfHearts89 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:02 am
kisshall2 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:23 am I bought mine two years ago from the Black Friday sale. At the time it (KISS Kruise VI) was my last KISS show. I thought the price was good for what it is.

Apparently there are two types of KISS fans. Those that like to buy stuff like this, and those who like to force their opinion on how others should spend their money.
There's 3, the third is people wanting it but can't justify spending the money especially in these hard times.

Which one is the "what the hell were you thinking" category? I fall into that one.

rsauye · Post by **rsauye** » Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:02 am

There Are 260 For Sale. From 2008. Storage Cost Must Be More Than He's Going To Get For Them.

Velvis · Post by **Velvis** » Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:33 am

Glasgow Kiss wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:43 am I smashed this guitar for you, [NAME (Optional)]

on [CONCERT DATE]

No, Paul.

You smashed it for $2500, not for [NAME (Optional)], and it's now not even a guitar - it's a couple of bits of wood.

Its not really different from any other collectible item. It's a keepsake from a KISS show. Too pricey for me, but I'd rather this than 99% percent of the crap they simply slap a logo on.

KingOfHearts89 · Post by **KingOfHearts89** » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:19 pm

Allamericanman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:49 am
KingOfHearts89 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:02 am
kisshall2 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:23 am I bought mine two years ago from the Black Friday sale. At the time it (KISS Kruise VI) was my last KISS show. I thought the price was good for what it is.

Apparently there are two types of KISS fans. Those that like to buy stuff like this, and those who like to force their opinion on how others should spend their money.
There's 3, the third is people wanting it but can't justify spending the money especially in these hard times.
Which one is the "what the hell were you thinking" category? I fall into that one.

I think a mixture of all three, with a slight dollop of cold gin mixed in