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Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:48 pm
by Mr. Kiss
Easily the Creatures tour. Fantastic lineup! :D

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:56 pm
by Bruce
I really like the way the guys all look together for Creature of the, Night, with Carr and Vincent in makeup. They look hungry--!!

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:21 pm
by PterCriss

Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxIWDmmqZzY



At 06:23

Vinnie needs a solo lesson from this performance.

Vinnie played mindless noise compared to these guys.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:24 pm
by Myriadpyramid7
Rip Rokken wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:20 pm
PterCriss wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:13 pm
Rip Rokken wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:21 am
Tito wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:14 pm
Why not just answer the question of the topic at hand instead of being a nuisance?
Too many finest moments for me to mention if I went song by song. Album-wise, I agree with you though I love ASG. And definitely the Birthday Bash where he put all the doubts about his abilities to shame.
You know he played to a recorded tape at the birthday bash.
You’re definitely Category 3... :lol: And with that, back to my studies for a while.
"What are ya studying for? Are you getting your professor bullshit degree?!"

I couldn't let this one go 😆

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:14 am
by Frehley's Vomit
Rip Rokken wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:19 am
I know Vinnie is a Christian, so no doubt he’s going to Heaven.
He's not a very good Christian.
Rip Rokken wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:19 am
I’m not sure about the other guys, or any “fans” who keep griping about ancient history (Matthew 6:15).
You mean like The Sphinx? :lol:

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:21 am
by Thunderous_Lay
Mad Dog wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:18 pm
Vinnie's finest moment was during the solo of Exciter. Best solo of the album.
:lol: :lol: 8)

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:52 am
by elleneff
Finest moment? On here posting as SO many people

Finest performance? The acting he gave at Atlanta. Oscar worthy. WE almost believed him.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:22 am
by FanbAce1978
Boyz are gonna Rock

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:48 am
by banks
As a player, whenever he was on a leash ( = in the studio with with Simmons & Stanley). The guy is super talented and he has an amazing gift for melody - AND he has a completely unique tone and touch - but as a player he's totally unable to restrain and edit himself.

In terms of songwriting, I tend to prefer stuff he wrote before Kiss (fantastic shit like Gypsy In Her Eyes) to what he wrote after Kiss. But the stuff I enjoy most is the stuff he wrote with Gene. No matter what some people say, it is obvious to me that those songs were very much CO-written.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:53 am
by Sssnakester
I know it's an unpopular view around here but I really love 'All Systems Go'. Of course his contributions to KISS were awesome and I really dig the Egyptian Warrior character.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:08 am
by Doose
Vinnie is a charlatan. The MYTH of him being a "great" songwriter is just that - a myth. You want to see a TRUE songwriter who actually wrote hits? Check out Desmond Child's track record. Like Vinnie, he got his big break writing with KISS, but look at what Desmond Child did with that opportunity vs. what Vinnie did with it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Child

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:16 am
by Sssnakester
Doose wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:08 am
Vinnie is a charlatan. The MYTH of him being a "great" songwriter is just that - a myth. You want to see a TRUE songwriter who actually wrote hits? Check out Desmond Child's track record. Like Vinnie, he got his big break writing with KISS, but look at what Desmond Child did with that opportunity vs. what Vinnie did with it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Child
How is it a "myth"? Creatures and Lick It Up are proof, at least in a lot of fans eyes and ears.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:55 am
by Curveboy
Vinnie finest moment is probably Animal...but this is a close second. The fact that it hasn't had an official release is a crime.

Nuke It

Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRESM6U2_wc

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:56 am
by Curveboy
Doose wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:08 am
Vinnie is a charlatan. The MYTH of him being a "great" songwriter is just that - a myth. You want to see a TRUE songwriter who actually wrote hits? Check out Desmond Child's track record. Like Vinnie, he got his big break writing with KISS, but look at what Desmond Child did with that opportunity vs. what Vinnie did with it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Child
The LEGEND of Vinnie Vincent


Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B8roxopaOc

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:57 am
by Curveboy
Doose wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:08 am
Vinnie is a charlatan. The MYTH of him being a "great" songwriter is just that - a myth. You want to see a TRUE songwriter who actually wrote hits? Check out Desmond Child's track record. Like Vinnie, he got his big break writing with KISS, but look at what Desmond Child did with that opportunity vs. what Vinnie did with it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Child
The LEGEND of Vinnie Vincent


Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhV7DEmLgMY

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:29 am
by Doose
Curveboy wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:57 am
Doose wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:08 am
Vinnie is a charlatan. The MYTH of him being a "great" songwriter is just that - a myth. You want to see a TRUE songwriter who actually wrote hits? Check out Desmond Child's track record. Like Vinnie, he got his big break writing with KISS, but look at what Desmond Child did with that opportunity vs. what Vinnie did with it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Child
The LEGEND of Vinnie Vincent


Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhV7DEmLgMY
One song. Not even a hit. Next.

Vinnie is a charlatan. The MYTH of him being a "great" songwriter is just that - a myth. You want to see a TRUE songwriter who actually wrote hits? Check out Desmond Child's track record. Like Vinnie, he got his big break writing with KISS, but look at what Desmond Child did with that opportunity vs. what Vinnie did with it:

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:30 am
by Doose
Curveboy wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:56 am
Doose wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:08 am
Vinnie is a charlatan. The MYTH of him being a "great" songwriter is just that - a myth. You want to see a TRUE songwriter who actually wrote hits? Check out Desmond Child's track record. Like Vinnie, he got his big break writing with KISS, but look at what Desmond Child did with that opportunity vs. what Vinnie did with it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Child
The LEGEND of Vinnie Vincent


Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B8roxopaOc
One song. Barely charted. Totally forgotten. Next.

Vinnie is a charlatan. The MYTH of him being a "great" songwriter is just that - a myth. You want to see a TRUE songwriter who actually wrote hits? Check out Desmond Child's track record. Like Vinnie, he got his big break writing with KISS, but look at what Desmond Child did with that opportunity vs. what Vinnie did with it.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:33 am
by TheSpoiler
So the best songwriters are the ones that sell the most?

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:57 am
by LordThurisaz
Sssnakester wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:16 am
Doose wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:08 am
Vinnie is a charlatan. The MYTH of him being a "great" songwriter is just that - a myth. You want to see a TRUE songwriter who actually wrote hits? Check out Desmond Child's track record. Like Vinnie, he got his big break writing with KISS, but look at what Desmond Child did with that opportunity vs. what Vinnie did with it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Child
How is it a "myth"? Creatures and Lick It Up are proof, at least in a lot of fans eyes and ears.
LIU is proof of how boring his songwriting tends to be.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:58 am
by LordThurisaz
Curveboy wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:55 am
Vinnie finest moment is probably Animal...but this is a close second. The fact that it hasn't had an official release is a crime.

Nuke It

Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRESM6U2_wc
Is this the theme song for microwaving your frozen food products?

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:00 am
by LordThurisaz
TheSpoiler wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:33 am
So the best songwriters are the ones that sell the most?
No, but they are more than a blip on the radar and have a career. You know, like Bernie Taupin, Desmond Child, etc.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:36 am
by Sssnakester
LordThurisaz wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:57 am
Sssnakester wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:16 am
Doose wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:08 am
Vinnie is a charlatan. The MYTH of him being a "great" songwriter is just that - a myth. You want to see a TRUE songwriter who actually wrote hits? Check out Desmond Child's track record. Like Vinnie, he got his big break writing with KISS, but look at what Desmond Child did with that opportunity vs. what Vinnie did with it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Child
How is it a "myth"? Creatures and Lick It Up are proof, at least in a lot of fans eyes and ears.
LIU is proof of how boring his songwriting tends to be.
Perhaps to you but I'm willing to bet there are many KISS fans that would disagree.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:21 am
by TheSpoiler
LordThurisaz wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:00 am
TheSpoiler wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:33 am
So the best songwriters are the ones that sell the most?
No, but they are morer than a blip on the radar and have a career. You know, like Bernie Taupin, Desmond Child, etc.
Would you describe Simmons and Stanley as songwriters?

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:26 am
by Doose
TheSpoiler wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:33 am
So the best songwriters are the ones that sell the most?
Usually, yes. Lennon/McCartney. Elton John/Bernie Taupin. Freddie Mercury. Tyler/Perry. Even Simmons and Stanley.

And you know why? Because sales mean their songs touched the masses and meant something.

That's why Vinnie's music has always failed and never sold.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:36 am
by 70skid
TheSpoiler wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:33 am
So the best songwriters are the ones that sell the most?
Absolutely not. An example is Brian May. In my opinion, Brian is one of the greatest songwriters in rock history but some of his best songs that are the most loved by Queen fans weren't necessarily the best sellers / highest charting. Songs like 'Now I'm Here' , 'Who Wants To Live Forever' , 'The Hero', 'Flash' ......I could go on and on. However, the strength of those songs, and the songwriting team of Queen in general, made their records strong and their live shows stronger......and virtually filler free.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:54 am
by TheSpoiler
Doose wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:26 am
TheSpoiler wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:33 am
So the best songwriters are the ones that sell the most?
Usually, yes. Lennon/McCartney. Elton John/Bernie Taupin. Freddie Mercury. Tyler/Perry. Even Simmons and Stanley.

And you know why? Because sales mean their songs touched the masses and meant something.

That's why Vinnie's music has always failed and never sold.
So Kanye is a great songwriter?

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:46 pm
by battra
TheSpoiler wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:54 am
Doose wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:26 am
TheSpoiler wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:33 am
So the best songwriters are the ones that sell the most?
Usually, yes. Lennon/McCartney. Elton John/Bernie Taupin. Freddie Mercury. Tyler/Perry. Even Simmons and Stanley.

And you know why? Because sales mean their songs touched the masses and meant something.

That's why Vinnie's music has always failed and never sold.
So Kanye is a great songwriter?
You know, I'll say it, yes.

Gold Digger, Stronger, Good Morning...those are amazing songs.

But to answer your question...I'd ask to clarify...how do you determine best?

Art is so subjective....

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:47 pm
by LordThurisaz
TheSpoiler wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:21 am
LordThurisaz wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:00 am
TheSpoiler wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:33 am
So the best songwriters are the ones that sell the most?
No, but they are morer than a blip on the radar and have a career. You know, like Bernie Taupin, Desmond Child, etc.
Would you describe Simmons and Stanley as songwriters?
Simmons not so much, but Stanley has been able to at least write some pretty cool songs over the years. Simmons is more of an experimenter, and basically just tosses ideas around and tries making them work.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:48 pm
by LordThurisaz
Sssnakester wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:36 am
Perhaps to you but I'm willing to bet there are many KISS fans that would disagree.
I'm sorry, but a lot of that album is out and out filler.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:50 pm
by mamado
Curveboy wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:55 am
Vinnie finest moment is probably Animal...but this is a close second. The fact that it hasn't had an official release is a crime.

Nuke It

Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRESM6U2_wc
Gosh... This is incredibly annoying!!! :? :? :? :flower:

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:52 pm
by LordThurisaz
mamado wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:50 pm
Curveboy wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:55 am
Vinnie finest moment is probably Animal...but this is a close second. The fact that it hasn't had an official release is a crime.

Nuke It

Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRESM6U2_wc
Gosh... This is incredibly annoying!!! :? :? :? :flower:
Yeah, it is. For one, his note diarrhea is all over the song, and for another, the vocals sound horrid. Great songwriter, that one. :lol:

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:59 pm
by mamado
LordThurisaz wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:52 pm
mamado wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:50 pm
Curveboy wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:55 am
Vinnie finest moment is probably Animal...but this is a close second. The fact that it hasn't had an official release is a crime.

Nuke It

Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRESM6U2_wc
Gosh... This is incredibly annoying!!! :? :? :? :flower:
Yeah, it is. For one, his note diarrhea is all over the song, and for another, the vocals sound horrid. Great songwriter, that one. :lol:
Oh, yeah... "NUKE HIM!!!", I'd tell ya... :) :) :) :flower:

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:34 pm
by Curveboy
LordThurisaz wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:52 pm

Yeah, it is. For one, his note diarrhea is all over the song, and for another, the vocals sound horrid. Great songwriter, that one. :lol:
Better than anything Ace has come up with in 40 years.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:41 pm
by LordThurisaz
Curveboy wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:34 pm
LordThurisaz wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:52 pm

Yeah, it is. For one, his note diarrhea is all over the song, and for another, the vocals sound horrid. Great songwriter, that one. :lol:
Better than anything Ace has come up with in 40 years.
:lol:

To quote the Vancome Lady from MadTV, "Chaaa, ya know what? Nuh uh."

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:37 pm
by Mackemkiss
Cock chafer is certainly something

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:42 pm
by Rip Rokken
Sssnakester wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:53 am
I know it's an unpopular view around here but I really love 'All Systems Go'. Of course his contributions to KISS were awesome and I really dig the Egyptian Warrior character.
ASG is awesome!

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:00 pm
by rocksteady77
Let's have some perspective here... http://www.vh1.com/news/45881/underrate ... uitarists/ CC beats out ole VV here. I love VV's work with KISS but he's no God, nor by any accounts is he a peach.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:39 pm
by tommy d
TheSphinx wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:54 pm
Vinnie Saving KISS

That is Vinnie's finest moment.

Love this VH1 article from 2015. Although, he should have been named the #1 most under-rated hair metal guitarist, they did put him at #2.




#2 Vinnie Vincent – Kiss/Vinnie Vincent Invasion

Vinnie Vincent saved Kiss. No two ways about it.

As Kiss’s record sales and concert attendance dwindled in the early ’80s, former Vincent John Cusano started as a session player on the 1982 Creatures of the Nightalbum before strapping on the requisite platform boots and painting his face to become the “Ankh Warrior” as departing guitar lord Ace Frehley’s official replacement.

The following year, Kiss famously ditched their makeup, emboldened not just by Vinnie’s daredevil guitar playing, but also by his absolutely top-tier skills as a songwriter. Just as Kiss has adapted to late-’70s disco with “I Was Made for Loving You,” Vinnie Vincent multiple talents would mega-successfully launch the band into the hair metal ’80s.

Vinnie co-wrote eight of the ten songs on 1983’s transitional smash Lick It Up, including the instant-classic title track, which remains one of Kiss’s true signature anthems, and the full-blown rump-stomper “All Hell’s Breakin’ Loose.”

Alas, Vinnie’s Kiss tenure proved short-lived. Business tensions and some onstage antics such as an unexpected, off-the-wall guitar solo at a March 1984 Quebec gig at the end of the Lick It Up tour prompted Kiss to fire Vinnie immediately. He went on to form the Vinnie Vincent Invasion, which put out two albums that have become fan favorites: a self-titled debut in 1986, and All Systems Go, two years later.

In the years since, Vinnie Vincent has become a mysterious figure and even the object of cult devotion. Rolling Stone even ran a 2014 article titled “The Long Kiss Goodbye: The Search for Vinnie Vincent.”

Vinnie has certainly earned every bit of this admiration and fascination.



The only thing I would take issue with is Vinnie wasn't fired. Vinnie went AWOL. KISS was begging him to return. Gene even got Diana Ross to call him. Vinnie refused to come back.
at least you admit he was a hair metal guy instead of a shredder because he is nowhere near shredder status.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:01 pm
by LoveGun77
LordThurisaz wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:52 pm
mamado wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:50 pm
Curveboy wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:55 am
Vinnie finest moment is probably Animal...but this is a close second. The fact that it hasn't had an official release is a crime.

Nuke It

Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRESM6U2_wc
Gosh... This is incredibly annoying!!! :? :? :? :flower:
Yeah, it is. For one, his note diarrhea is all over the song, and for another, the vocals sound horrid. Great songwriter, that one. :lol:

For me,this was borderline unlistenable,mostly because AGAIN....the guitar is so out of place,so over the top that it really seems out of place. It has no feeling,no emotion,no anything.

Re: Vinnie Vincent's Finest Moments

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:04 pm
by LordThurisaz
Borderline?