Rock & Brews
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:31 pm
You don't hear much about Rock & Brews these days. It's odd that Gene and Paul aren't listed on their "Executives" page either.
That wasn't very nice. And the one near me does very well and the food is delicious. It's always busy. And.... whatever. Alice Cooper has a restaurant too. A republican, Christian who sings about necrophilia and gets his head cut off on a nightly basis, oh and his restaurant is filled with golf memorabilia. And it does good business too. I bet you eat at Toby Keith's restaurant.Nellcote71 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:59 pm Winning...
Yeah...let’s have a restaurant endorsed by a fat, blood spitting musician - people will flock to eat there...
That is a terrible argument.Nellcote71 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:59 pm Winning...
Yeah...let’s have a restaurant endorsed by a fat, blood spitting musician - people will flock to eat there...
Heavy handed - my apologies...Talktopete wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:56 pmThat wasn't very nice. And the one near me does very well and the food is delicious. It's always busy. And.... whatever. Alice Cooper has a restaurant too. A republican, Christian who sings about necrophilia and gets his head cut off on a nightly basis, oh and his restaurant is filled with golf memorabilia. And it does good business too. I bet you eat at Toby Keith's restaurant.Nellcote71 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:59 pm Winning...
Yeah...let’s have a restaurant endorsed by a fat, blood spitting musician - people will flock to eat there...
Does he really? Good business?Talktopete wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:56 pmThat wasn't very nice. And the one near me does very well and the food is delicious. It's always busy. And.... whatever. Alice Cooper has a restaurant too. A republican, Christian who sings about necrophilia and gets his head cut off on a nightly basis, oh and his restaurant is filled with golf memorabilia. And it does good business too. I bet you eat at Toby Keith's restaurant.Nellcote71 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:59 pm Winning...
Yeah...let’s have a restaurant endorsed by a fat, blood spitting musician - people will flock to eat there...
I think the coffeehouse was some KISS fans who had the idea, and, of course, if they paid for everything to develop it, it made sense for Gene and Paul to give them a license and hope it was an idea that could be franchised. But you're right - KISS and coffee have zero connection, so why would it be interesting to anyone other than KISS fans? Now if Lohman's puts out a line of Vinnie Vincent Pantsuits, THAT'LL sell.KlevelandKissFreak wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:37 pm I never understood the reasoning behind the KISS Coffeehouse at Myrtle Beach... I've lived in South Carolina 25 years and I never bothered checking it out. I had friends send pics when they went but I thought the coffeehouse was stupid.
elleneff wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:36 amDoes he really? Good business?Talktopete wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:56 pmThat wasn't very nice. And the one near me does very well and the food is delicious. It's always busy. And.... whatever. Alice Cooper has a restaurant too. A republican, Christian who sings about necrophilia and gets his head cut off on a nightly basis, oh and his restaurant is filled with golf memorabilia. And it does good business too. I bet you eat at Toby Keith's restaurant.Nellcote71 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:59 pm Winning...
Yeah...let’s have a restaurant endorsed by a fat, blood spitting musician - people will flock to eat there...
Because Cooperstown in Phoenix closed it doors after 18 years in 2017.
https://eu.azcentral.com/story/entertai ... 791107001/
https://www.tripadvisor.ie/Restaurant_R ... izona.html
Well it Was good business for 18 yearselleneff wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:36 amDoes he really? Good business?Talktopete wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:56 pmThat wasn't very nice. And the one near me does very well and the food is delicious. It's always busy. And.... whatever. Alice Cooper has a restaurant too. A republican, Christian who sings about necrophilia and gets his head cut off on a nightly basis, oh and his restaurant is filled with golf memorabilia. And it does good business too. I bet you eat at Toby Keith's restaurant.Nellcote71 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:59 pm Winning...
Yeah...let’s have a restaurant endorsed by a fat, blood spitting musician - people will flock to eat there...
Because Cooperstown in Phoenix closed it doors after 18 years in 2017.
https://eu.azcentral.com/story/entertai ... 791107001/
https://www.tripadvisor.ie/Restaurant_R ... izona.html
Very, very good point. I didn't think about that. It may just be a temporary "hands off" approach (no pun intended) for a while.Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:19 pm Might have something to do with Gene's two separate Sexual Assault charges at two different Rock & Brews restaurants. Might not be the image the other partners wanted for their family restaurant chain.
WELL, I had a good read through reviews and articles Just out of curiousity. It did good solid business for about 10 years. The area was vibrant during that period. There was a LOT of investment, Fox Studios at the time has set up an animation studio via Don Bluth so there was a big influx of artistic and film talent to the area at the time. I lived there at the time. It struggled for the last 8 or so. Clearly had minimal investment and coasted into decline. A cross section of reviews said the menu was tired, the place dusty and dirty and just very very tired.metaldad wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:58 amWell it Was good business for 18 yearselleneff wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:36 amDoes he really? Good business?Talktopete wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:56 pmThat wasn't very nice. And the one near me does very well and the food is delicious. It's always busy. And.... whatever. Alice Cooper has a restaurant too. A republican, Christian who sings about necrophilia and gets his head cut off on a nightly basis, oh and his restaurant is filled with golf memorabilia. And it does good business too. I bet you eat at Toby Keith's restaurant.Nellcote71 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:59 pm Winning...
Yeah...let’s have a restaurant endorsed by a fat, blood spitting musician - people will flock to eat there...
Because Cooperstown in Phoenix closed it doors after 18 years in 2017.
https://eu.azcentral.com/story/entertai ... 791107001/
https://www.tripadvisor.ie/Restaurant_R ... izona.html![]()
I know when it first opened Alice had Dave Mustaine and Randy Johnson as investorselleneff wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:03 amWELL, I had a good read through reviews and articles Just out of curiousity. It did good solid business for about 10 years. The area was vibrant during that period. There was a LOT ofn investment, Fox at the time has set up an animation studio via Don Bluth so there was a big influx of artistic and film talent to the area. It struggled for the last 8 or so. Clearly had minimal investment and coasted into decline. A cross section of reviews said the menu was tired, the place dusty and dirty and just very very tired.metaldad wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:58 amWell it Was good business for 18 yearselleneff wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:36 amDoes he really? Good business?Talktopete wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:56 pmThat wasn't very nice. And the one near me does very well and the food is delicious. It's always busy. And.... whatever. Alice Cooper has a restaurant too. A republican, Christian who sings about necrophilia and gets his head cut off on a nightly basis, oh and his restaurant is filled with golf memorabilia. And it does good business too. I bet you eat at Toby Keith's restaurant.Nellcote71 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:59 pm Winning...
Yeah...let’s have a restaurant endorsed by a fat, blood spitting musician - people will flock to eat there...
Because Cooperstown in Phoenix closed it doors after 18 years in 2017.
https://eu.azcentral.com/story/entertai ... 791107001/
https://www.tripadvisor.ie/Restaurant_R ... izona.html![]()
In this day and age, I find it hard to believe anyone would want to associate their brand with someone like Gene Simmons. He's burned a lot of bridges with his big mouth and vile behavior towards women.Doose wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:55 pmVery, very good point. I didn't think about that. It may just be a temporary "hands off" approach (no pun intended) for a while.Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:19 pm Might have something to do with Gene's two separate Sexual Assault charges at two different Rock & Brews restaurants. Might not be the image the other partners wanted for their family restaurant chain.
Gene's behavior and statements are the main reason people my age don't listen to KISS.Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:25 amIn this day and age, I find it hard to believe anyone would want to associate their brand with someone like Gene Simmons. He's burned a lot of bridges with his big mouth and vile behavior towards women.Doose wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:55 pmVery, very good point. I didn't think about that. It may just be a temporary "hands off" approach (no pun intended) for a while.Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:19 pm Might have something to do with Gene's two separate Sexual Assault charges at two different Rock & Brews restaurants. Might not be the image the other partners wanted for their family restaurant chain.
Possibly. My reply was to really ask this TalktoPete guy where his facts came from because its decades old and way out of date.metaldad wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:18 amI know when it first opened Alice had Dave Mustaine and Randy Johnson as investorselleneff wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:03 amWELL, I had a good read through reviews and articles Just out of curiousity. It did good solid business for about 10 years. The area was vibrant during that period. There was a LOT ofn investment, Fox at the time has set up an animation studio via Don Bluth so there was a big influx of artistic and film talent to the area. It struggled for the last 8 or so. Clearly had minimal investment and coasted into decline. A cross section of reviews said the menu was tired, the place dusty and dirty and just very very tired.metaldad wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:58 amWell it Was good business for 18 yearselleneff wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:36 amDoes he really? Good business?Talktopete wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:56 pmThat wasn't very nice. And the one near me does very well and the food is delicious. It's always busy. And.... whatever. Alice Cooper has a restaurant too. A republican, Christian who sings about necrophilia and gets his head cut off on a nightly basis, oh and his restaurant is filled with golf memorabilia. And it does good business too. I bet you eat at Toby Keith's restaurant.Nellcote71 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:59 pm Winning...
Yeah...let’s have a restaurant endorsed by a fat, blood spitting musician - people will flock to eat there...
Because Cooperstown in Phoenix closed it doors after 18 years in 2017.
https://eu.azcentral.com/story/entertai ... 791107001/
https://www.tripadvisor.ie/Restaurant_R ... izona.html![]()
Maybe after they were no longer involved Alice didn’t want to foot the bill alone and let it ride until closing
I completely understandelleneff wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:30 amPossibly. My reply was to really ask this TalktoPete guy where his facts came from because its decades old and way out of date.metaldad wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:18 amI know when it first opened Alice had Dave Mustaine and Randy Johnson as investorselleneff wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:03 amWELL, I had a good read through reviews and articles Just out of curiousity. It did good solid business for about 10 years. The area was vibrant during that period. There was a LOT ofn investment, Fox at the time has set up an animation studio via Don Bluth so there was a big influx of artistic and film talent to the area. It struggled for the last 8 or so. Clearly had minimal investment and coasted into decline. A cross section of reviews said the menu was tired, the place dusty and dirty and just very very tired.metaldad wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:58 amWell it Was good business for 18 yearselleneff wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:36 amDoes he really? Good business?Talktopete wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:56 pmThat wasn't very nice. And the one near me does very well and the food is delicious. It's always busy. And.... whatever. Alice Cooper has a restaurant too. A republican, Christian who sings about necrophilia and gets his head cut off on a nightly basis, oh and his restaurant is filled with golf memorabilia. And it does good business too. I bet you eat at Toby Keith's restaurant.Nellcote71 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:59 pm Winning...
Yeah...let’s have a restaurant endorsed by a fat, blood spitting musician - people will flock to eat there...
Because Cooperstown in Phoenix closed it doors after 18 years in 2017.
https://eu.azcentral.com/story/entertai ... 791107001/
https://www.tripadvisor.ie/Restaurant_R ... izona.html![]()
Maybe after they were no longer involved Alice didn’t want to foot the bill alone and let it ride until closing
Like me saying Tower Records is killing it (well the last remaining stores are in Dublin (theres 2) and other snide comments to try to make an point utterly uninformed.
Most women and most men who respect women would agree.Potato Salad wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:28 amGene's behavior and statements are the main reason people my age don't listen to KISS.Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:25 amIn this day and age, I find it hard to believe anyone would want to associate their brand with someone like Gene Simmons. He's burned a lot of bridges with his big mouth and vile behavior towards women.Doose wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:55 pmVery, very good point. I didn't think about that. It may just be a temporary "hands off" approach (no pun intended) for a while.Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:19 pm Might have something to do with Gene's two separate Sexual Assault charges at two different Rock & Brews restaurants. Might not be the image the other partners wanted for their family restaurant chain.
THIS. very MUCH THIS.Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:33 amMost women and most men who respect women would agree.Potato Salad wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:28 amGene's behavior and statements are the main reason people my age don't listen to KISS.Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:25 amIn this day and age, I find it hard to believe anyone would want to associate their brand with someone like Gene Simmons. He's burned a lot of bridges with his big mouth and vile behavior towards women.Doose wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:55 pmVery, very good point. I didn't think about that. It may just be a temporary "hands off" approach (no pun intended) for a while.Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:19 pm Might have something to do with Gene's two separate Sexual Assault charges at two different Rock & Brews restaurants. Might not be the image the other partners wanted for their family restaurant chain.
I think it's more to do with their terrible taste in musicPotato Salad wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:28 amGene's behavior and statements are the main reason people my age don't listen to KISS.Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:25 amIn this day and age, I find it hard to believe anyone would want to associate their brand with someone like Gene Simmons. He's burned a lot of bridges with his big mouth and vile behavior towards women.Doose wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:55 pmVery, very good point. I didn't think about that. It may just be a temporary "hands off" approach (no pun intended) for a while.Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:19 pm Might have something to do with Gene's two separate Sexual Assault charges at two different Rock & Brews restaurants. Might not be the image the other partners wanted for their family restaurant chain.
That too, but there will always be a new wave of kids who listen to The Beatles, Nirvana, David Bowie, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, etc. Only KISS isn't part of that group anymore. KISS (Gene Simmons in particular) are singled out for 'ruining rock' by associating it with toys and merchandise, and Gene's statements about downloading music and suicide are really not a good look for the band. When he tried to trademark the devil horns, the entire metal community had a field day with Gene and said he was a disgrace to music. I am in the minority that enjoys his persona and sense of humor, but the average young person isn't going to touch their work with a ten foot pole because of this. It's had a seriously negative impact on the band's legacy, more so than lip syncing or post-reunion crap or anything like that.ZachAttack wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:57 amI think it's more to do with their terrible taste in musicPotato Salad wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:28 amGene's behavior and statements are the main reason people my age don't listen to KISS.Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:25 amIn this day and age, I find it hard to believe anyone would want to associate their brand with someone like Gene Simmons. He's burned a lot of bridges with his big mouth and vile behavior towards women.Doose wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:55 pmVery, very good point. I didn't think about that. It may just be a temporary "hands off" approach (no pun intended) for a while.Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:19 pm Might have something to do with Gene's two separate Sexual Assault charges at two different Rock & Brews restaurants. Might not be the image the other partners wanted for their family restaurant chain.
How about when Gene said people with depression should go kill themselves.Potato Salad wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:11 amThat too, but there will always be a new wave of kids who listen to The Beatles, Nirvana, David Bowie, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, etc. Only KISS isn't part of that group anymore. KISS (Gene Simmons in particular) are singled out for 'ruining rock' by associating it with toys and merchandise, and Gene's statements about downloading music and suicide are really not a good look for the band. When he tried to trademark the devil horns, the entire metal community had a field day with Gene and said he was a disgrace to music. I am in the minority that enjoys his persona and sense of humor, but the average young person isn't going to touch their work with a ten foot pole because of this. It's had a seriously negative impact on the band's legacy, more so than lip syncing or post-reunion crap or anything like that.ZachAttack wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:57 amI think it's more to do with their terrible taste in musicPotato Salad wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:28 amGene's behavior and statements are the main reason people my age don't listen to KISS.Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:25 amIn this day and age, I find it hard to believe anyone would want to associate their brand with someone like Gene Simmons. He's burned a lot of bridges with his big mouth and vile behavior towards women.Doose wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:55 pmVery, very good point. I didn't think about that. It may just be a temporary "hands off" approach (no pun intended) for a while.Soylent Gene wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:19 pm Might have something to do with Gene's two separate Sexual Assault charges at two different Rock & Brews restaurants. Might not be the image the other partners wanted for their family restaurant chain.
That's also the impression I got, that's it's the best thing G&P have gotten involved in or started up. Not bad considering this list of failed celeb eateries --star_paul12 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:34 am Who knows. Haven’t heard anything of it in a while which also includes anything bad. Any time I’m at an airport that has one they always seem to be busy. In my opinion R&B is probably the most lucrative, legitimate business venture gene/Paul have involved themselves with in years. It certainly beats GS tongue/Simmons money bag records~publishing/ weed, Stanley fashion lines, and kiss football.
I went there once and was less than impressed.Rockandrolloverman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:14 pm The one in the St. Louis area seems to be doing very well every time we go there / it’s a great place to eat and the decor and theme makes for a very cool experience
Sounds like you had far too high expectations for a Rock N' Roll themed sports bar.battra wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:58 amI went there once and was less than impressed.Rockandrolloverman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:14 pm The one in the St. Louis area seems to be doing very well every time we go there / it’s a great place to eat and the decor and theme makes for a very cool experience
Let me clarify that...
It was not bad and I didn't walk out of there thinking I'd overpaid or anything like that. It's just nothing original or special. Then couple that with it being 30 miles west of my house at the very end of St. Louis County...(Note I live in the county of St. Louis City....long story.)
That particular area is having a worker shortage as well. The people who live there don't want the work, and the people who'll take those jobs can't get out there. We'll see what happens there, but the shortage is closing restaurants.
For me, ok food, but far away when I can support a hundred locally owned restaurants in my and the surrounding neighborhoods and not having to go to Chesterfield?
Yeah, I haven't been back.
He Wanted The BestPassMeBy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:27 pmSounds like you had far too high expectations for a Rock N' Roll themed sports bar.battra wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:58 amI went there once and was less than impressed.Rockandrolloverman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:14 pm The one in the St. Louis area seems to be doing very well every time we go there / it’s a great place to eat and the decor and theme makes for a very cool experience
Let me clarify that...
It was not bad and I didn't walk out of there thinking I'd overpaid or anything like that. It's just nothing original or special. Then couple that with it being 30 miles west of my house at the very end of St. Louis County...(Note I live in the county of St. Louis City....long story.)
That particular area is having a worker shortage as well. The people who live there don't want the work, and the people who'll take those jobs can't get out there. We'll see what happens there, but the shortage is closing restaurants.
For me, ok food, but far away when I can support a hundred locally owned restaurants in my and the surrounding neighborhoods and not having to go to Chesterfield?
Yeah, I haven't been back.
Baffling? I'd suggest it's exactly what to expect from one of the most monumental hypocrites you could care to mention.elleneff wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:35 am Ill edit to add, For a man that adores his mother, his wife and daughter, his treatment of women over the years has been at times baffling and appalling.
From the point of view that should anyone treated Flora (rest in peace) Shannon or Sophie in a manner he has treated a lot of women, ie as an item to be used and objectified, well......
It's way more common than you think. There are tons of guys out there where their mother is the only woman they respect.elleneff wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:35 am
Ill edit to add, For a man that adores his mother, his wife and daughter, his treatment of women over the years has been at times baffling and appalling.
From the point of view that should anyone treated Flora (rest in peace) Shannon or Sophie in a manner he has treated a lot of women, ie as an item to be used and objectified, well......
Its baffling to me. But I certainly understand and take your point.curryleaf wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:41 amBaffling? I'd suggest it's exactly what to expect from one of the most monumental hypocrites you could care to mention.elleneff wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:35 am Ill edit to add, For a man that adores his mother, his wife and daughter, his treatment of women over the years has been at times baffling and appalling.
From the point of view that should anyone treated Flora (rest in peace) Shannon or Sophie in a manner he has treated a lot of women, ie as an item to be used and objectified, well......
elleneff wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:35 am
Ill edit to add, For a man that adores his mother, his wife and daughter, his treatment of women over the years has been at times baffling and appalling.
From the point of view that should anyone treated Flora (rest in peace) Shannon or Sophie in a manner he has treated a lot of women, ie as an item to be used and objectified, well......
Maybe?PassMeBy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:27 pmSounds like you had far too high expectations for a Rock N' Roll themed sports bar.battra wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:58 amI went there once and was less than impressed.Rockandrolloverman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:14 pm The one in the St. Louis area seems to be doing very well every time we go there / it’s a great place to eat and the decor and theme makes for a very cool experience
Let me clarify that...
It was not bad and I didn't walk out of there thinking I'd overpaid or anything like that. It's just nothing original or special. Then couple that with it being 30 miles west of my house at the very end of St. Louis County...(Note I live in the county of St. Louis City....long story.)
That particular area is having a worker shortage as well. The people who live there don't want the work, and the people who'll take those jobs can't get out there. We'll see what happens there, but the shortage is closing restaurants.
For me, ok food, but far away when I can support a hundred locally owned restaurants in my and the surrounding neighborhoods and not having to go to Chesterfield?
Yeah, I haven't been back.