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kissno1 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:58 am If that is the case, how come a week before the show in Montreal they couldn't even show me 1 ticket for sale? I couldn't go anyway but I kept checking to see, in case I won the lotto!
No idea. I just report the numbers reported to the industry.
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kissno1 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:26 am
nibbler1982 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:21 am
kissno1 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:58 am
Admin wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:27 pm 7/16/2019 The SSE Hydro, Glasgow, Scotland
Reported audience: 9,879 / 10,914 (90.52%)
Reported gross: $826,799

8/16/2019 Bell Centre, Montreal, QC, Canada
Reported audience: 11,343 / 13,882 (81.71%)
Reported gross: $1,036,380
If that is the case, how come a week before the show in Montreal they couldn't even show me 1 ticket for sale? I couldn't go anyway but I kept checking to see, in case I won the lotto!
You were probably checking from the VIP ticket pool. There were two choices on Ticketmaster. If you clicked on that one they were sold out.
No I was just checking from the regular tickets. I know it really doesn't matter but if I had been able to go I would have been pissed that I couldn't get a ticket & they weren't sold out. I am hoping they play a date in the maritimes before it is all over, they opened their Love Gun tour in Halifax in 77, so I would think they should at least get a show there.
I’m not schooled on Canadian geography but I’m going to all but guarantee the Great White North has a bunch more stops on the upcoming itinerary for EOTR in the years to come. I hope the maritimes are part of that leg.

As for the Montreal tix? I was checking right up until showtime and it was showing me seats available. Weird.
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Admin wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:53 am 7/11/2019 - O2 Arena, London, England
Reported audience: 15,295 / 17,586 (86.97%)
Reported gross: $1,182,490
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $77.31

7/12/2019 - Manchester Arena, Manchester, England
Reported audience: 13,445 / 13,533 (99.35%)
Reported gross: $1,037,010
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $77.13
Nice!

Again, I’m expecting all the U.K. figures but I’m not holding my breath for much more out of the European dates. I hope I’m wrong.
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OK, we have the stats for 50 dates so far. The bigly numbers are:

Reported audience: 601,107 / 624,638 (96.23%)
Reported gross: $66,381,930
Avg. price-per-ticket: $110.43
Avg. audience: 12,012
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Admin wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:14 pm OK, we have the stats for 50 dates so far. The bigly numbers are:

Reported audience: 601,107 / 624,638 (96.23%)
Reported gross: $66,381,930
Avg. price-per-ticket: $110.43
Avg. audience: 12,012
I'm happy to see the band go out this way, rather than playing to half-empty halls. As a longtime fan, it would have been depressing to see them go out playing four or five-thousand seat halls, or half-empty arenas. I think Gene and Paul work hard at what they do, so they deserve all of the success they have.

And think about it - the $66 million is just from ticket sales. It doesn't include merchandise, meet and greets, sponsorship, licensing, etc.
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Doose wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:36 pm
Admin wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:14 pm OK, we have the stats for 50 dates so far. The bigly numbers are:

Reported audience: 601,107 / 624,638 (96.23%)
Reported gross: $66,381,930
Avg. price-per-ticket: $110.43
Avg. audience: 12,012
I'm happy to see the band go out this way, rather than playing to half-empty halls. As a longtime fan, it would have been depressing to see them go out playing four or five-thousand seat halls, or half-empty arenas. I think Gene and Paul work hard at what they do, so they deserve all of the success they have.

And think about it - the $66 million is just from ticket sales. It doesn't include merchandise, meet and greets, sponsorship, licensing, etc.
Those half empty arenas and 5,000 seat halls may very well be coming somewhere down the line.

Stay tuned.
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Admin wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:14 pm OK, we have the stats for 50 dates so far. The bigly numbers are:

Reported audience: 601,107 / 624,638 (96.23%)
Reported gross: $66,381,930
Avg. price-per-ticket: $110.43
Avg. audience: 12,012
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nibbler1982 wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:21 pm Well, if we’re measuring our manhood...

Ed Sheeran grossed an all time calendar year record in 2018 with $432.4M. A few days ago his current tour broke the all time mark of $735M and still climbing.

Good for Ed.

I honestly couldn’t name one of his songs and wouldn’t know who he was if I was stuck in an elevator with the guy.

He apparently hasn’t missed the fact that I won’t be attending any of his shows anytime soon.
Wife is a fan. I attended a show with her.

Busch Stadium...basically sold out show. It was a "replacement" show for the one that got canceled during a round of protests here.

I have no clue what the wife, or any of the other 40,000 people in that stadium see in the man's music.

But they see something.
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battra wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:05 pm
nibbler1982 wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:21 pm Well, if we’re measuring our manhood...

Ed Sheeran grossed an all time calendar year record in 2018 with $432.4M. A few days ago his current tour broke the all time mark of $735M and still climbing.

Good for Ed.

I honestly couldn’t name one of his songs and wouldn’t know who he was if I was stuck in an elevator with the guy.

He apparently hasn’t missed the fact that I won’t be attending any of his shows anytime soon.
Wife is a fan. I attended a show with her.

Busch Stadium...basically sold out show. It was a "replacement" show for the one that got canceled during a round of protests here.

I have no clue what the wife, or any of the other 40,000 people in that stadium see in the man's music.

But they see something.
If I didn't read about him breaking the calendar year and all time records I still wouldn't know his name.

But apparently there's a new King of the Mountain.
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Admin wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:53 am 7/11/2019 - O2 Arena, London, England
Reported audience: 15,295 / 17,586 (86.97%)
Reported gross: $1,182,490
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $77.31

7/12/2019 - Manchester Arena, Manchester, England
Reported audience: 13,445 / 13,533 (99.35%)
Reported gross: $1,037,010
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $77.13
The UK crowd numbers are fantastic to see. I've seen the band play many a half empty hall over the years and that includes the reunion shows. I think the UK has finally got it!!!!
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nibbler1982 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:43 pm If I didn't read about him breaking the calendar year and all time records I still wouldn't know his name.

But apparently there's a new King of the Mountain.
He sings fairly well I guess...sometimes he writes a nice lyric...

It's just him and a delay machine...or whatever they're called...so he plays percussion on his guitar, strums a couple chords, and the machine replays those sounds and he sings and/or raps. It's boring to me.

Bland and inoffensive is how I'd describe his music. Perfect for any dentist's office or doctor's waiting room.
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acesmiddlefinger wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:44 pm
Admin wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:53 am 7/11/2019 - O2 Arena, London, England
Reported audience: 15,295 / 17,586 (86.97%)
Reported gross: $1,182,490
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $77.31

7/12/2019 - Manchester Arena, Manchester, England
Reported audience: 13,445 / 13,533 (99.35%)
Reported gross: $1,037,010
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $77.13
The UK crowd numbers are fantastic to see. I've seen the band play many a half empty hall over the years and that includes the reunion shows. I think the UK has finally got it!!!!
Spot on mate.

This Manchester show was incredible. It 'felt' rammed when I was there so I'm pleased to see the figures back that up.

KISS weren't doing this when they were flavour of the month here 30 years ago. A top 5 single and top 5 album didn't put as many bums on seats as the past couple of tours.

In a way, I kinda hope they do draw a line under touring here again. This tour was extra special and they played to some big numbers. Go out on top, lads!
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Those are pretty good numbers. Almost 29000 people and over 2.2M gross for two shows. I'm sure they would be happy if those numbers continue...
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acefan1975 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:48 pm Those are pretty good numbers. Almost 29000 people and over 2.2M gross for two shows. I'm sure they would be happy if those numbers continue...
They would.

They won’t. :D
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nibbler1982 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:53 pm
acefan1975 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:48 pm Those are pretty good numbers. Almost 29000 people and over 2.2M gross for two shows. I'm sure they would be happy if those numbers continue...
They would.

They won’t. :D
I agree. I am betting 75 to 80% of those numbers would make the band jump for joy.
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vdojaq wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:46 am
PterCriss wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:29 pm Everyone loves Kiss success thru out the years but stating the EOTR tour and how much money they made based on ridiculous ticket prices is only a slap in the face to Kiss fans. It's like holding someone down and farting in their face. You might think it's cool until it happens to you. Lol.
Reporting ticket sales and income is now a slap in the face. Yeah, sure, why not? I wonder just how offended and hurt you would be if the merchandise sales were reported too. What drugs/medications do you take? I ask that because no one in their right mind could possibly come up with some of the crap you do.
I SEE YOU LIKE GETTING FARTED IN YOUR FACE. SINCE YOU SEE NO ISSUE WITH OUTRAGEOUS TICKET PRICES.
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I think the late summer shed shows may be the weak link. I know the two times KISS played shed shows near Dallas I was all in .... till the temps were 105 during the day. I said eff it. Stayed home.
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vdojaq wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:46 am
PterCriss wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:29 pm Everyone loves Kiss success thru out the years but stating the EOTR tour and how much money they made based on ridiculous ticket prices is only a slap in the face to Kiss fans. It's like holding someone down and farting in their face. You might think it's cool until it happens to you. Lol.
Reporting ticket sales and income is now a slap in the face. Yeah, sure, why not? I wonder just how offended and hurt you would be if the merchandise sales were reported too. What drugs/medications do you take? I ask that because no one in their right mind could possibly come up with some of the crap you do.
I TAKE ZERO DRUGS OR MEDICATIONS. = TRUTH

HOW MUCH DRUGS OR MEDS DO YOU TAKE? BE HONEST

What crap? You seem like you found a old post of mine and now think you're the next Robin Williams. Glue - You're not funny. Enjoy the farts!
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PterCriss wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:20 pm
vdojaq wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:46 am
PterCriss wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:29 pm Everyone loves Kiss success thru out the years but stating the EOTR tour and how much money they made based on ridiculous ticket prices is only a slap in the face to Kiss fans. It's like holding someone down and farting in their face. You might think it's cool until it happens to you. Lol.
Reporting ticket sales and income is now a slap in the face. Yeah, sure, why not? I wonder just how offended and hurt you would be if the merchandise sales were reported too. What drugs/medications do you take? I ask that because no one in their right mind could possibly come up with some of the crap you do.
I SEE YOU LIKE GETTING FARTED IN YOUR FACE. SINCE YOU SEE NO ISSUE WITH OUTRAGEOUS TICKET PRICES.
"FARTED IN YOUR FACE", did you get that from your 6 years of high school? Enjoy the foul wind because you are the one who is paying the $500 to drink egg nog and sing X-mas carols with Vinnie. That's outrageous.
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PterCriss wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:27 pm
vdojaq wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:46 am
PterCriss wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:29 pm Everyone loves Kiss success thru out the years but stating the EOTR tour and how much money they made based on ridiculous ticket prices is only a slap in the face to Kiss fans. It's like holding someone down and farting in their face. You might think it's cool until it happens to you. Lol.
Reporting ticket sales and income is now a slap in the face. Yeah, sure, why not? I wonder just how offended and hurt you would be if the merchandise sales were reported too. What drugs/medications do you take? I ask that because no one in their right mind could possibly come up with some of the crap you do.
I TAKE ZERO DRUGS OR MEDICATIONS. = TRUTH

Please start taking some.

HOW MUCH DRUGS OR MEDS DO YOU TAKE? BE HONEST

Zantac and an occasional ibuprofin.

What crap?

Um, just about eveything you post?

You seem like you found a old post of mine and now think you're the next Robin Williams. Glue - You're not funny. Enjoy the farts!

Nope, quoted your post that was pure crap.
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Where's Drago? wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:50 pm
acesmiddlefinger wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:44 pm
Admin wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:53 am 7/11/2019 - O2 Arena, London, England
Reported audience: 15,295 / 17,586 (86.97%)
Reported gross: $1,182,490
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $77.31

7/12/2019 - Manchester Arena, Manchester, England
Reported audience: 13,445 / 13,533 (99.35%)
Reported gross: $1,037,010
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $77.13
The UK crowd numbers are fantastic to see. I've seen the band play many a half empty hall over the years and that includes the reunion shows. I think the UK has finally got it!!!!
Spot on mate.

This Manchester show was incredible. It 'felt' rammed when I was there so I'm pleased to see the figures back that up.

KISS weren't doing this when they were flavour of the month here 30 years ago. A top 5 single and top 5 album didn't put as many bums on seats as the past couple of tours.

In a way, I kinda hope they do draw a line under touring here again. This tour was extra special and they played to some big numbers. Go out on top, lads!
Couldn't agree more mate. I hope they never play Manchester again because they couldn't top it. An unforgettable night, crowd were off the scale!!!
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Admin wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:04 am July 2 - Ippodromo San Siro Milano, Milan, Italy
Promoter: Barley Arts Promotion
Reported audience: 11,005 / 12,400 (88.75%)
Reported gross: $1,034,121
Average ticket: $93.97
I was there, it looked like there was more people...

PS Metallica did 43,000 in the same location (obviously different setting of the hyppodrome...)
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nibbler1982 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:06 pm
kissno1 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:26 am
nibbler1982 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:21 am
kissno1 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:58 am
Admin wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:27 pm 7/16/2019 The SSE Hydro, Glasgow, Scotland
Reported audience: 9,879 / 10,914 (90.52%)
Reported gross: $826,799

8/16/2019 Bell Centre, Montreal, QC, Canada
Reported audience: 11,343 / 13,882 (81.71%)
Reported gross: $1,036,380
If that is the case, how come a week before the show in Montreal they couldn't even show me 1 ticket for sale? I couldn't go anyway but I kept checking to see, in case I won the lotto!
You were probably checking from the VIP ticket pool. There were two choices on Ticketmaster. If you clicked on that one they were sold out.
No I was just checking from the regular tickets. I know it really doesn't matter but if I had been able to go I would have been pissed that I couldn't get a ticket & they weren't sold out. I am hoping they play a date in the maritimes before it is all over, they opened their Love Gun tour in Halifax in 77, so I would think they should at least get a show there.
I’m not schooled on Canadian geography but I’m going to all but guarantee the Great White North has a bunch more stops on the upcoming itinerary for EOTR in the years to come. I hope the maritimes are part of that leg.


As for the Montreal tix? I was checking right up until showtime and it was showing me seats available. Weird.
The maritimes are the provinces east of Quebec. New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, PEI, Newfoundland. They missed a bunch of places in Canada, so I am guessing you are right, hope so anyway!
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nibbler1982 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:53 pm
acefan1975 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:48 pm Those are pretty good numbers. Almost 29000 people and over 2.2M gross for two shows. I'm sure they would be happy if those numbers continue...
They would.

They won’t. :D
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acesmiddlefinger wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:30 pm
Where's Drago? wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:50 pm
acesmiddlefinger wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:44 pm
Admin wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:53 am 7/11/2019 - O2 Arena, London, England
Reported audience: 15,295 / 17,586 (86.97%)
Reported gross: $1,182,490
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $77.31

7/12/2019 - Manchester Arena, Manchester, England
Reported audience: 13,445 / 13,533 (99.35%)
Reported gross: $1,037,010
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $77.13
The UK crowd numbers are fantastic to see. I've seen the band play many a half empty hall over the years and that includes the reunion shows. I think the UK has finally got it!!!!
Spot on mate.

This Manchester show was incredible. It 'felt' rammed when I was there so I'm pleased to see the figures back that up.

KISS weren't doing this when they were flavour of the month here 30 years ago. A top 5 single and top 5 album didn't put as many bums on seats as the past couple of tours.

In a way, I kinda hope they do draw a line under touring here again. This tour was extra special and they played to some big numbers. Go out on top, lads!
Couldn't agree more mate. I hope they never play Manchester again because they couldn't top it. An unforgettable night, crowd were off the scale!!!
Yep. We were. It was probably the most buzzed excited crowd at a gig Iv been to. Everyone chuffed to be there. atmosphere was utterly electric.
and the band , in response to such a reception, looked just thrilled.
Paul looked absolutely ecstatic and gave it 200%.

When they are on autopilot, Ill rip em, This? was a momentous show. Fair play for the extra oomph.

as for these tour numbers?
Cant argue with that at all. Just wish tours like the Revenge tour had these numbers.
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alexmai wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:20 am
Admin wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:04 am July 2 - Ippodromo San Siro Milano, Milan, Italy
Promoter: Barley Arts Promotion
Reported audience: 11,005 / 12,400 (88.75%)
Reported gross: $1,034,121
Average ticket: $93.97
I was there, it looked like there was more people...
There may well have been. However, those numbers are what were officially reported.
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Have those reported per ticket price averages and show gross been converted to US dollars?
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Much Too Soon wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:22 pm Have those reported per ticket price averages and show gross been converted to US dollars?
Yes. All my reports are in USD.
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weird that Wikipedia now has the new UK boxscores but is still missing the Toronto box from the first leg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_th ... World_Tour
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necronomicon wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:33 am weird that Wikipedia now has the new UK boxscores but is still missing the Toronto box from the first leg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_th ... World_Tour
Well, the don't have this one either -- I'm sure someone will cut 'n' paste before long.

8/20/2019 Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
Reported audience: 11,566 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,035,019
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $89.49
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8/20/2019 Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
Reported audience: 11,566 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,035,019
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $89.49
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Admin wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:49 am 8/20/2019 Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
Reported audience: 11,566 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,035,019
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $89.49
Wow, reported stats already? I think they're getting creative to say it was "sold out," but the almost $25 drop in average ticket price, versus the first US leg, could explain it. The difference to the bottom line, if they had done $113 per ticket instead of $89, is approximately $275,000.
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So much for Brooklyn bleak city..They will never learn
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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

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Doose wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:05 am
Admin wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:49 am 8/20/2019 Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
Reported audience: 11,566 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,035,019
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $89.49
Wow, reported stats already? I think they're getting creative to say it was "sold out," but the almost $25 drop in average ticket price, versus the first US leg, could explain it. The difference to the bottom line, if they had done $113 per ticket instead of $89, is approximately $275,000.
You're presenting a bit of a financial fallacy though, because I don't think they left money on the table; the asses were put in seats at the price required to get them there.

I mean - almost 12,000 people and a $1M gross on the fourth show in the area is really impressive no matter what the ticket price was.
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necronomicon wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:09 am I mean - almost 12,000 people and a $1M gross on the fourth show in the area is really impressive no matter what the ticket price was.
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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

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Admin wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:12 am
necronomicon wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:09 am I mean - almost 12,000 people and a $1M gross on the fourth show in the area is really impressive no matter what the ticket price was.
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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

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Admin wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:49 am 8/20/2019 Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
Reported audience: 11,566 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,035,019
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $89.49
Interesting. Wasn't this show supposed to be an attendance disaster according to the haters and naysayers?
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Admin wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:49 am 8/20/2019 Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
Reported audience: 11,566 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,035,019
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $89.49
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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

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tmcfaddin wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:19 pm
Admin wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:49 am 8/20/2019 Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
Reported audience: 11,566 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,035,019
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $89.49
Interesting. Wasn't this show supposed to be an attendance disaster according to the haters and naysayers?
I’m neither a Hater or Naysayer
But it looked awful for months up until the show
I thought Newark and this would be a shitshow but I was wrong
I had a great time in Brooklyn but I did see empty seats
But it doesn’t matter if there are 20,000 or 25
I don’t see a dime from it either way
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6/25/2019 - Ziggo Dome, Amsterdam, Netherlands
Reported audience: 15,182 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,211,657 (Euros 1,086,629)
Avg. price-per-ticket: $79.81
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This is the reason why I say the average attendance will increase if we get all European and second leg North American figures.

For the European shows I was playing along at home as usual. While I didn’t have exact figures, the local publications were reporting a lot of big numbers. If they were in the ballpark it would ily go up from the ~12,000 on the first 44.

Same with the current leg. The interactive maps told us sales were robust. Add that to the fact that capacities are going up and you can do the math yourself. We just heard 20,000 for Hershey the other night. I’ll believe it when I see it but things are looking good for our heroes. Let’s also not forget the supposed dogs like Barclays that was to make us fans eat humble pie...shit...that even came in at ~12,000
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If anything, they can't say that KISS are drawing because of the opening bands anymore....You know, the whole festival thing.
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Nice pop since last time they visited the Ziggo Dome.

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Ziggo Dome
Amsterdam, Netherlands
June 18, 2015
$886,040
11,821

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Ziggo Dome
Amsterdam, Netherlands
June 25, 2019
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tmcfaddin wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:19 pm
Admin wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:49 am 8/20/2019 Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
Reported audience: 11,566 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,035,019
Avg. Price-per-ticket: $89.49
Interesting. Wasn't this show supposed to be an attendance disaster according to the haters and naysayers?
Six months ago, yes, but not according to any particular people, because it was simply selling like shit and the show looked like it was going to be a disaster. However, Kiss pulled it out in time (discounted tickets definitely helped) and the place was generally packed, even I had a good time. However again, all the 'blue dots' on ticketmaster a few hours prior to showtime (when I bought my ticket), and all the empty seats in the arena when Kiss hit the stage, including the 30+ empty seats in my section alone (with people from way above coming down to sit in them during the show) tells me every seat wasn't sold, and obviously there's a very different criteria for what is "sold out" these days.

Kiss did great attendance-wise at Barclay's and they deserve tons of props for all the people they drew to four area shows, they did better than I certainly ever thought they would.
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Admin wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:55 pm 6/25/2019 - Ziggo Dome, Amsterdam, Netherlands
Reported audience: 15,182 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,211,657 (Euros 1,086,629)
Avg. price-per-ticket: $79.81
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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

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Nobody really knows the chronological accuracy of when a dot gets removed when a seat is sold.
Is it instant? Is there a time lag till it gets removed? When payment is actually received? Or when
tickets change hands? If the band sells the last 5% of seats in the 24hours before showtime, when
would those dots disappear? Do the ticket masters have access to REAL TIME DATA, which it appears
the blue dots are not.
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Here’s another comparative analysis. KISS’ last time in the region and now. I will add, that “poor” showing by KISS in 2015 was from over touring. They might of hit that venue more than any other in recent history.

When looking at this week’s Billboard Boxscore I also noticed the Eagles recently played that arena. I’m surprised how “low” the numbers were. I mean, The Eagles are the biggest U.S. band of all time. I wonder if Glenn not being there has anything to do with it? It didn’t seem to hurt them in the states.

KISS
Hallenstadion
Zurich, Switzerland
July 4, 2019
$1,661,865
13,000 **SOLD-OUT

KISS
Hallenstadion
Zurich, Switzerland
June 10, 2015
$823,234
7,793

Eagles
Hallenstadion
Zurich, Switzerland
June 5, 2019
$1,052,190
7,486
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Much Too Soon wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:29 am Nobody really knows the chronological accuracy of when a dot gets removed when a seat is sold.
Is it instant? Is there a time lag till it gets removed? When payment is actually received? Or when
tickets change hands? If the band sells the last 5% of seats in the 24hours before showtime, when
would those dots disappear? Do the ticket masters have access to REAL TIME DATA, which it appears
the blue dots are not.

If the blue dots were't updated in real time then you would have tickets being double sold and the system would be worth having. It's a real time system. Everyone online has to refresh their browsers to get updated information just like the FAQ.

Two hours before showtime should be an accurate representation.

And to answer the next question: It's common practice for venue staff to move people up to fill in pockets of empty floor seats. Everyone moves into the empty seats from the back to the front. I've seen this happen at many concerts at Live Nation venues.

Kiss sells 11,089 seats at a venue and capacity is marked as 11,089 for that venue that night.
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Much Too Soon wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:29 am Nobody really knows the chronological accuracy of when a dot gets removed when a seat is sold.
Is it instant? Is there a time lag till it gets removed? When payment is actually received? Or when
tickets change hands? If the band sells the last 5% of seats in the 24hours before showtime, when
would those dots disappear? Do the ticket masters have access to REAL TIME DATA, which it appears
the blue dots are not.
The dots disappear immediately, or else multiple people would be buying the same seat. If you select a seat, then not purchase it, it reappears after your 10 minutes are up.
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nibbler1982 wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:58 am Here’s another comparative analysis. KISS’ last time in the region and now. I will add, that “poor” showing by KISS in 2015 was from over touring. They might of hit that venue more than any other in recent history.

When looking at this week’s Billboard Boxscore I also noticed the Eagles recently played that arena. I’m surprised how “low” the numbers were. I mean, The Eagles are the biggest U.S. band of all time. I wonder if Glenn not being there has anything to do with it? It didn’t seem to hurt them in the states.

KISS
Hallenstadion
Zurich, Switzerland
July 4, 2019
$1,661,865
13,000 **SOLD-OUT

KISS
Hallenstadion
Zurich, Switzerland
June 10, 2015
$823,234
7,793

Eagles
Hallenstadion
Zurich, Switzerland
June 5, 2019
$1,052,190
7,486
The Eagles recently did two nights at the Ziggo Dome in The Netherlands, KISS did one. The Eagles played Wembley Stadium in London, KISS played the O2 Arena.

What, exactly, is the point you're trying to make here?
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