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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by Mr. Kiss » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:44 pm

johare wrote:
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Apr. 11 - Amalie Arena, Tampa, FL
Reported audience: 13,103 / 13,509 (96.99%)
Reported gross: $1,479,989
When they say reported audience of 13,103 does that refer to tickets sold/issued or how many people actually showed up? I was at that show and have no idea where those 400 empty seats would have been. I bought my tickets only two weeks before the show from Ticketmaster and there were barely any available maybe 30 or 40 seats in those two sections that are alongside/behind the stage and about 5 rows worth in the two lower bowl sections closest to the stage that they released as "Platinum seats" about 2 week out.


"Reported audience" refers to amount of tickets sold. However, capacity can refer to total amount of seats in the venue, OR the total amount of tickets made available for that specific event. Of course, that's contingent on a projected demand by the promoter.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by Admin » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:22 am

Boom!

Nationwide Arena, Columbus, OH
Reported audience: 14,241 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,848,999

United Center, Chicago
Reported audience: 13,917 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,769,254

Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia, PA
Reported audience: 14,530 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,586,959

TD Garden, Boston, MA
Reported audience: 16,843 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,569,324

PPG Paints Arena, Pittsburgh, PA
Reported audience: 13,486 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,560,111

Little Caesars Arena, Detroit, MI
Reported audience: 13,159 / 13,791 (95.42%)
Reported gross: $1,558,645

KFC Yum! Center Louisville, KY
Reported audience: 14,638 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,444,057

Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
Reported audience: 10,368 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,432,295

Target Center, Minneapolis, MN
Reported audience: 11,020 / 11,321 (97.34%)
Reported gross: $1,405,117

Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse, Cleveland, OH
Reported audience: 12,307 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,404,793

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by nibbler1982 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:25 am

Fuckin’ BOOM is right!!!

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by Thunderous_Lay » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:29 am

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Post by nibbler1982 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:30 am

It appears to be Columbus Rock City.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

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Overall (from 33 reported dates):
Reported audiences: 399,139/ 406,151 (98.27%)
Reported gross: $45,241,354
Average ticket price: $113.35
Average audience: 12,080

Highest attendance (To date): 16,843, Boston, MA, Mar. 26
Highest gross (To date): $1,848,999, Nationwide Arena, Columbus, OH, Mar. 16
Highest ticket average (to date): $138.15, Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY, Mar. 22

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by Deuce1231 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:39 am

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by Admin » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:02 am

Of course, some may get upset that the figures reported by the venue don't match the "SOLD-OUT" banners Paul posed with ;) They'll likely get adjusted at some point, but I'll take industry reporting over eyeballs and band members any day!

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by Crown Royal » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:12 am

18,000 every night, Paul said so!

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by OHKISSFAN » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:15 pm

That's pretty damn impressive!
Good job KISS Army!

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by CrimeDawg » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:47 pm

Glad to see the awesome turnout at the Louisville show!!

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by necronomicon » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:06 pm

Admin wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:40 am
Overall (from 33 reported dates):
Reported audiences: 399,139/ 406,151 (98.27%)
Reported gross: $45,241,354
Average ticket price: $113.35
Average audience: 12,080

Highest attendance (To date): 16,843, Boston, MA, Mar. 26
Highest gross (To date): $1,848,999, Nationwide Arena, Columbus, OH, Mar. 16
Highest ticket average (to date): $138.15, Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY, Mar. 22
On pace for $125,000,000 for the 92 dates. Unreal.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by necronomicon » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:07 pm

Or is it a hundred dates now? if it's a hundred, it's closer to $150,000,000.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by Velvis » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:11 pm

Of the roughly 1.5 million gross each show, could anyone estimate what amount goes where? Like what is the venues cut? what does it cost to keep something like this on the road?

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by Crown Royal » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:53 pm

necronomicon wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:06 pm
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Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:40 am
Overall (from 33 reported dates):
Reported audiences: 399,139/ 406,151 (98.27%)
Reported gross: $45,241,354
Average ticket price: $113.35
Average audience: 12,080

Highest attendance (To date): 16,843, Boston, MA, Mar. 26
Highest gross (To date): $1,848,999, Nationwide Arena, Columbus, OH, Mar. 16
Highest ticket average (to date): $138.15, Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY, Mar. 22
On pace for $125,000,000 for the 92 dates. Unreal.
If the second leg sells like leg one, which is hardly a given.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by metaldad » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:59 pm

Admin wrote:
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Highest ticket average (to date): $138.15, Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY, Mar. 22
This is odd to me
I was at both shows and MSG was more expensive in every way

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by nibbler1982 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:11 pm

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Or is it a hundred dates now? if it's a hundred, it's closer to $150,000,000.
I believe it’s 99 non festival shows and a total of 105 for 2019.

Are all of them gonna come in at the $1,370,950 average KISS is currently pulling in? No.

I do think Europe and Oceania will draw at roughly the same rate and then a drop when they return to the states.

The total is assuredly gonna be north of nine figures. How much further? We’re gonna find out together.

What I’m really intrigued with is what 2020 and 2021 is gonna look like.

Stay tuned. :D

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by nibbler1982 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:25 pm

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Highest ticket average (to date): $138.15, Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY, Mar. 22
This is odd to me
I was at both shows and MSG was more expensive in every way
I hear what your saying, but not if you break it down mathematically. The Coliseum is smaller. You have less seats selling at a higher price...that’s where the story ends. That gives you the higher price per ticket.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by nibbler1982 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:20 am

Points to ponder.

https://www.billboard.com/biz/current-boxscore

I noticed that this week’s Billboard Charts was filled with a lot of “big” shows. Meaning even the show listed at number 50 (out of 50) still drew ~$1.5M.

I’m wondering if some of KISS lesser concerts would’ve been on this list if it was extended to top 100 shows of the week? If so, will we get those boxscores eventually?

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

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nibbler1982 wrote:
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Points to ponder.

https://www.billboard.com/biz/current-boxscore

I noticed that this week’s Billboard Charts was filled with a lot of “big” shows. Meaning even the show listed at number 50 (out of 50) still drew ~$1.5M.

I’m wondering if some of KISS lesser concerts would’ve been on this list if it was extended to top 100 shows of the week? If so, will we get those boxscores eventually?
I was not aware that PINK was that big of a draw. She's huge...

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by Crown Royal » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:21 am

KISS didn't sell out their one show in Detroit on their last tour. That's shocking.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by Ratmir » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:51 pm

Crown Royal wrote:
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KISS didn't sell out their one show in Detroit on their last tour. That's shocking.
Detroit is also not the same

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

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KISS didn't sell out their one show in Detroit on their last tour. That's shocking.
Detroit is also not the same
No, it's not.

But even taking that into consideration, I would have thought that, after MSG, this would be one of the 'holy grail' places KISS fans would want to see the band at the end. When this tour was announced I truly though there'd be two shows in Detroit. I thought the first show would sell out relatively quick, then a second show would be added; if that one sold out, who knows, but it just seemed obvious KISS would do two shows on their last tour in the city that one of their most well-known songs are written about, in the city that most fans associate with what many consider to be the band's best album, Alive.

I guess I misjudged how much things have changed.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

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nibbler1982 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:20 am
Points to ponder.

https://www.billboard.com/biz/current-boxscore

I noticed that this week’s Billboard Charts was filled with a lot of “big” shows. Meaning even the show listed at number 50 (out of 50) still drew ~$1.5M.

I’m wondering if some of KISS lesser concerts would’ve been on this list if it was extended to top 100 shows of the week? If so, will we get those boxscores eventually?
We got lucky at got them. There were 4 <$1.5 million gross shows initially included in the list which at first publication included more than the top-50.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by Thunderous_Lay » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:24 pm

nibbler1982 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:20 am
Points to ponder.

https://www.billboard.com/biz/current-boxscore

I noticed that this week’s Billboard Charts was filled with a lot of “big” shows. Meaning even the show listed at number 50 (out of 50) still drew ~$1.5M.

I’m wondering if some of KISS lesser concerts would’ve been on this list if it was extended to top 100 shows of the week? If so, will we get those boxscores eventually?
Looking at the top draw, I feel like listening to Merle Haggard...

Few things soothe the soul as well as country music does.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by nibbler1982 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:34 pm

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Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:20 am
Points to ponder.

https://www.billboard.com/biz/current-boxscore

I noticed that this week’s Billboard Charts was filled with a lot of “big” shows. Meaning even the show listed at number 50 (out of 50) still drew ~$1.5M.

I’m wondering if some of KISS lesser concerts would’ve been on this list if it was extended to top 100 shows of the week? If so, will we get those boxscores eventually?
Looking at the top draw, I feel like listening to Merle Haggard...

Few things soothe the soul as well as country music does.
Merle’s cool with me.

Although after a particularly exasperating day...right now I’m sprawled out on the couch blasting this one from my phone to my sound bar.


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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by gothunder » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:49 pm

Like Gene said, hes too rich to care.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by nibbler1982 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:52 pm

Admin wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:09 pm
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Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:20 am
Points to ponder.

https://www.billboard.com/biz/current-boxscore

I noticed that this week’s Billboard Charts was filled with a lot of “big” shows. Meaning even the show listed at number 50 (out of 50) still drew ~$1.5M.

I’m wondering if some of KISS lesser concerts would’ve been on this list if it was extended to top 100 shows of the week? If so, will we get those boxscores eventually?
We got lucky at got them. There were 4 <$1.5 million gross shows initially included in the list which at first publication included more than the top-50.
You always got your eye on the ball Jules.

Your continued diligence has started to make me lazy.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by acefan1975 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:09 pm

[quote=Admin post_id=2913032 time=1555432846 user_id=2]
[size=200][b]Overall (from 33 reported dates):[/b][/size]
Reported audiences: 399,139/ 406,151 (98.27%)
Reported gross: $45,241,354
Average ticket price: $113.35
Average audience: 12,080

Highest attendance (To date): 16,843, Boston, MA, Mar. 26
Highest gross (To date): $1,848,999, Nationwide Arena, Columbus, OH, Mar. 16
Highest ticket average (to date): $138.15, Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY, Mar. 22
[/quote]

I would have never guessed those numbers 6 months ago unless they brought back Ace and/or Peter. Pretty impressive. I would have guessed in the 9000/850K range per show. They are sure selling better than I thought so far...

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by acefan1975 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:09 pm

acefan1975 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:09 pm
Admin wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:40 am
Overall (from 33 reported dates):
Reported audiences: 399,139/ 406,151 (98.27%)
Reported gross: $45,241,354
Average ticket price: $113.35
Average audience: 12,080

Highest attendance (To date): 16,843, Boston, MA, Mar. 26
Highest gross (To date): $1,848,999, Nationwide Arena, Columbus, OH, Mar. 16
Highest ticket average (to date): $138.15, Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY, Mar. 22
I would have never guessed those numbers 6 months ago unless they brought back Ace and/or Peter. Pretty impressive. I would have guessed in the 9000/850K range per show. They are sure selling better than I thought so far...

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by nibbler1982 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:19 pm

acefan1975 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:09 pm
acefan1975 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:09 pm
Admin wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:40 am
Overall (from 33 reported dates):
Reported audiences: 399,139/ 406,151 (98.27%)
Reported gross: $45,241,354
Average ticket price: $113.35
Average audience: 12,080

Highest attendance (To date): 16,843, Boston, MA, Mar. 26
Highest gross (To date): $1,848,999, Nationwide Arena, Columbus, OH, Mar. 16
Highest ticket average (to date): $138.15, Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY, Mar. 22
I would have never guessed those numbers 6 months ago unless they brought back Ace and/or Peter. Pretty impressive. I would have guessed in the 9000/850K range per show. They are sure selling better than I thought so far...
That would’ve been the numbers without Farewell II attached.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by PsychoElder » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:47 pm

Way to go KISS Army Columbus. That was my first show on the tour. I definitely contributed my part.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by nibbler1982 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:49 pm

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Way to go KISS Army Columbus. That was my first show on the tour. I definitely contributed my part.
I should’ve been at that one with you brah.

Poor execution on my end. :(

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nibbler1982 wrote:
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PsychoElder wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:47 pm
Way to go KISS Army Columbus. That was my first show on the tour. I definitely contributed my part.
I should’ve been at that one with you brah.

Poor execution on my end. :(
Come to Cincinnati Nibbs. Probably doesn’t work out for you huh?

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by nibbler1982 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:33 pm

PsychoElder wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:14 pm
nibbler1982 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:49 pm
PsychoElder wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:47 pm
Way to go KISS Army Columbus. That was my first show on the tour. I definitely contributed my part.
I should’ve been at that one with you brah.

Poor execution on my end. :(
Come to Cincinnati Nibbs. Probably doesn’t work out for you huh?
It’s not probable Brother Elder.

But it’s definitely possible. :D

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by PsychoElder » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:39 pm

nibbler1982 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:33 pm
PsychoElder wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:14 pm
nibbler1982 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:49 pm
PsychoElder wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:47 pm
Way to go KISS Army Columbus. That was my first show on the tour. I definitely contributed my part.
I should’ve been at that one with you brah.

Poor execution on my end. :(
Come to Cincinnati Nibbs. Probably doesn’t work out for you huh?
It’s not probable Brother Elder.

But it’s definitely possible. :D
Well if it happens, you let me know.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

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PsychoElder wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:39 pm
nibbler1982 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:33 pm
PsychoElder wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:14 pm
nibbler1982 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:49 pm
PsychoElder wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:47 pm
Way to go KISS Army Columbus. That was my first show on the tour. I definitely contributed my part.
I should’ve been at that one with you brah.

Poor execution on my end. :(
Come to Cincinnati Nibbs. Probably doesn’t work out for you huh?
It’s not probable Brother Elder.

But it’s definitely possible. :D
Well if it happens, you let me know.
Brother...if so I’ll reach out right after I pull the trigger.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by Ace Fury » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:30 pm

What does a KISS show cost the band? Say at a Sports Arena size venue.

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

Post by acefan1975 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:51 am

Ace Fury wrote:
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What does a KISS show cost the band? Say at a Sports Arena size venue.
I have no clue, but I would have to guess at minimum a couple hundred grand per show...

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