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Who would have thought Bob Seger would be making
more money than Kiss ?
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Pretty good numbers for KISS. The Corpus Christi show was a bit of a dog.

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metaldad wrote:
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Who would have thought Bob Seger would be making
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Not me
In December 2009, Billboard and Nielsen SoundScan confirmed that with nearly nine million copies sold, Bob Seger's Greatest Hits was the decade's best-selling catalog album in the United States, even out-selling The Beatles' 1 and Michael Jackson's Number Ones. By September 2011, the album had sold a total of 9,062,000 copies in the United States.

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For those playing at home, I do believe Corpus Christi stands at the highest price per ticket so far. I’m currently up on a roof at the moment, don’t quote me. :D

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For those playing at home, I do believe Corpus Christi stands at the highest price per ticket so far. I’m currently up on a roof at the moment, don’t quote me. :D
It's okay, Nibblys, you can quote me...we all know you never, ever, for one second, "ignored" me 8)

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nibbler1982 wrote:
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metaldad wrote:
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Who would have thought Bob Seger would be making
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In December 2009, Billboard and Nielsen SoundScan confirmed that with nearly nine million copies sold, Bob Seger's Greatest Hits was the decade's best-selling catalog album in the United States, even out-selling The Beatles' 1 and Michael Jackson's Number Ones. By September 2011, the album had sold a total of 9,062,000 copies in the United States.

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KISS - FedExForum, Memphis, Tenn.
Reported audience: 12,047 / 12,950 (93.03%)
Reported gross: $1,404,952

KISS - Smoothie King Center, New Orleans, La.
Reported audience: 10,677 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,328,420

KISS - Chesapeake Energy Arena, Oklahoma City, Okla.
Reported audience: 11,501 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,322,069

KISS - Sprint Center, Kansas City, Mo.
Reported audience: 10,842 / 12,256 (88.46%)
Reported gross: $1,152,061

KISS - American Bank Center, Corpus Christi, Texas
Reported audience: 7,810 / 8,170 (95.59%)
Reported gross: $1,053,036

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Has anyone seen a score on the Chicago date at the United Center yet?

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The NOLA boxscore is impressive because New Orleans is not normally a KISS city. Great crowd, great show.

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Deuce1231 wrote:
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Has anyone seen a score on the Chicago date at the United Center yet?
Not sure what the hold up is on Chicago. I bet it comes in similar to Cher's numbers at the United Center with a gross maybe just below $2 million.

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CStomp1 wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:33 am
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Has anyone seen a score on the Chicago date at the United Center yet?
Not sure what the hold up is on Chicago. I bet it comes in similar to Cher's numbers at the United Center with a gross maybe just below $2 million.
Haven't seen Glendale yet either...unless I missed something?

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Lots of seats for Nassau on Friday and they dropped in price

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KISS - FedExForum, Memphis, Tenn.
Reported audience: 12,047 / 12,950 (93.03%)
Reported gross: $1,404,952

KISS - Smoothie King Center, New Orleans, La.
Reported audience: 10,677 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,328,420

KISS - Chesapeake Energy Arena, Oklahoma City, Okla.
Reported audience: 11,501 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,322,069

KISS - Sprint Center, Kansas City, Mo.
Reported audience: 10,842 / 12,256 (88.46%)
Reported gross: $1,152,061

KISS - American Bank Center, Corpus Christi, Texas
Reported audience: 7,810 / 8,170 (95.59%)
Reported gross: $1,053,036
The data dont lie. Them is some fantastic numbers.

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Great to see them having success, and on their terms!

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CStomp1 wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:33 am
Deuce1231 wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:18 am
Has anyone seen a score on the Chicago date at the United Center yet?
Not sure what the hold up is on Chicago. I bet it comes in similar to Cher's numbers at the United Center with a gross maybe just below $2 million.
I like the way you think.

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Hearing that there were 15,624 in Montreal.

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Shane_Penney wrote:
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Hearing that there were 15,624 in Montreal.
I believe it’s gotta in that neighborhood. I mean look at 2009.

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I hope we hear about Grand Rapids. That is the show I attended and would be pretty cool for it to be sold out. I mean if it isn't it has to be dang close to sold out. I did not notice any empty seats. Last KISS show I saw that sold out was I believe Tiger Stadium. Maybe one of the shows at Pine Knob (DTE), in the mid to late 2000s, not sure about those.

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If so, Montreal (15,624) would be the biggest attendance of the tour so far. Of course, we are waiting on Chicago, which could rival it.

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Shane_Penney wrote:
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If so, Montreal (15,624) would be the biggest attendance of the tour so far. Of course, we are waiting on Chicago, which could rival it.
I say true on both accounts.

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I hope we hear about Grand Rapids. That is the show I attended and would be pretty cool for it to be sold out. I mean if it isn't it has to be dang close to sold out. I did not notice any empty seats. Last KISS show I saw that sold out was I believe Tiger Stadium. Maybe one of the shows at Pine Knob (DTE), in the mid to late 2000s, not sure about those.
I will all but guarantee we get a Grand Rapids boxscore.

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Awesome :)

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nibbler1982 wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:13 am
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I hope we hear about Grand Rapids. That is the show I attended and would be pretty cool for it to be sold out. I mean if it isn't it has to be dang close to sold out. I did not notice any empty seats. Last KISS show I saw that sold out was I believe Tiger Stadium. Maybe one of the shows at Pine Knob (DTE), in the mid to late 2000s, not sure about those.
I will all but guarantee we get a Grand Rapids boxscore.
I'm saying 10,904 for GR

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Any new EOTR Boxscores yet?

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Nothing in a while... Most unpleasant.

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Admin wrote:
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Nothing in a while... Most unpleasant.
Tell me about it.

Most certainly unpleasant.

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nibbler1982 wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:57 am
Admin wrote:
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Nothing in a while... Most unpleasant.
Tell me about it.

Most certainly unpleasant.
Ok :lol: Very certainty unpleasant impatient! :wink:

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I was out in Philly the last week, was watching a local newscast and they said scattered tickets were available, and that was the morning of the show, so it should be a sellout, or very close

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KISS - Madison Square Garden, New York, NY
Reported audience: 13,359 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,730,755

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Love seeing MSG!

I wonder where everything in between is?

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nibbler1982 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:09 pm
Love seeing MSG!

I wonder where everything in between is?
Chicago and Grand Rapids are conspicuously MIA...

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Deuce1231 wrote:
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Love seeing MSG!

I wonder where everything in between is?
Chicago and Grand Rapids are conspicuously MIA...
Yes and no.

The drips and drabs they were coming out at the beginning of the tour was more out of the ordinary than not.

Boxscores come out in all kinds of ways. More often than not, a lot of tours release them in larger blocks of like ten or so shows.

When it’s all said and done I do believe we’ll have almost all of them.

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March 23 - Mohegan Sun, Uncasville, CT
Reported audience: 7,254 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $969,342

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Nice numbers.

I’m happy to get ANYTHING right now. There’s a lot to still be released. I’m fairly confident we’ll get ‘em sooner or later.

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Apr. 7 - State Farm Arena, Atlanta, GA
Reported audience: 11,357 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,324,454

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Nice.

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No Philly yet?

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nibbler1982 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:01 am
Nice.
I'm anxiously waiting for Pittsburgh.

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Ace of Bass wrote:
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Nice.
I'm anxiously waiting for Pittsburgh.
I’m waiting for all of them Brother Bass.

Pittsburgh assuredly included.

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Unless I missed it the one for Louisville hasn't been released yet has it? Very interested in that one since KISS recently hasn't drawn that well in Kentucky.

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CrimeDawg wrote:
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Unless I missed it the one for Louisville hasn't been released yet has it? Very interested in that one since KISS recently hasn't drawn that well in Kentucky.
Yeah KISS historically hasn't done well in Kentucky. At least in the 80s, not sure about the 70s. 1996 reunion show at Freedom Hall had a really good turn out (as did all reunion shows) and the EOTR show was packed. Really good turn out.

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Mar. 19 - Bell Centre, Montreal, QC, Canada
Reported audience: 14,207 / 14,756 (96.28%)
Reported gross: $1,214,421
Avg. PPT $85.48, lowest of the dates reported so far.

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Mar. 19 - Bell Centre, Montreal, QC, Canada
Reported audience: 14,207 / 14,756 (96.28%)
Reported gross: $1,214,421
Avg. PPT $85.48, lowest of the dates reported so far.
Shocked.

Not that it’s a bad gate. 1.2M...I don’t feel too sorry for ‘em. It’s just that sales were so robust they even added a second show.

Unless the figures get amended, which has happened for a few dates so far...the numbers are what they say they are.

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nibbler1982 wrote:
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Mar. 19 - Bell Centre, Montreal, QC, Canada
Reported audience: 14,207 / 14,756 (96.28%)
Reported gross: $1,214,421
Avg. PPT $85.48, lowest of the dates reported so far.
Shocked.

Not that it’s a bad gate. 1.2M...I don’t feel too sorry for ‘em. It’s just that sales were so robust they even added a second show.

Unless the figures get amended, which has happened for a few dates so far...the numbers are what they say they are.
Is anyone taking into account the currency exchange rate for Montreal? Ticket prices are in Canadian dollars when we buy the tickets. Is the gross in US dollars or Canadian dollars?

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Shane_Penney wrote:
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Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:59 pm
Mar. 19 - Bell Centre, Montreal, QC, Canada
Reported audience: 14,207 / 14,756 (96.28%)
Reported gross: $1,214,421
Avg. PPT $85.48, lowest of the dates reported so far.
Shocked.

Not that it’s a bad gate. 1.2M...I don’t feel too sorry for ‘em. It’s just that sales were so robust they even added a second show.

Unless the figures get amended, which has happened for a few dates so far...the numbers are what they say they are.
Is anyone taking into account the currency exchange rate for Montreal? Ticket prices are in Canadian dollars when we buy the tickets. Is the gross in US dollars or Canadian dollars?
I was gonna mention that, but the Vancouver show was right in line with the others. Then again, maybe they got the conversion wrong when the did the math. It’s definitely an anomaly, that one sold very well, very quickly.

If it has a “$”...which it does, I’m gonna say the total’s in US currency.

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Gross is in USD. CDN $1,598,870

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CrimeDawg wrote:
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Unless I missed it the one for Louisville hasn't been released yet has it? Very interested in that one since KISS recently hasn't drawn that well in Kentucky.
I was at the Louisville show. If it wasn't sold out, it was very, very close. It was jam packed.
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The Montreal boxscore is quite the anomaly. It’s hard to explain the relatively low gate and average ticket price. Not that the numbers are so out of whack, but they’re disjointed enough to catch your attention.

Off the bat, sales were so robust out the gate that they literally added a second show. That being the case, discounted prices were near nine existent if not at all. Next, this was one of the highest attendances of all recorded shows so far. So you have high volume, high sales rate, and nonexistent discounts. This all adds up to some of the best numbers of the tour. Well...the best laid schemes o' mice an' men gang aft a-gley.

As it stands the $85.48 is currently the lowest average ticket price of the tour. Add on top of that the fact that the gate barely made it to $1.2M. Other attendances with ~13,500 or better made considerably more, some $500,000 more. It’s wuite the divergence.

Okay, so maybe it’s just the Montreal market. Some regions are just different monetarily from others. Nope, I don’t think it’s that either. Let’s look at what KISS did here in 2009 compared to today.

KISS
Bell Centre
Montreal, QC, Canada
July 13, 2009
$992,525
13,566
Average price per ticket $73.16

KISS
Bell Centre
Montreal, QC, Canada
Mar. 19, 2019
$1,214,421
14,207
Average price per ticket $85.48

In 2009 the ATP of $73.16 was one of the highest of that year. In 2019 the aforementioned ATP of $85.48 remains the lowest. It’s truly a tale of two cities.

Something is definitely off. I’d love to know the how’s and why’s of it. Maybe time will tell.

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The Montreal boxscore is quite the anomaly. It’s hard to explain the relatively low gate and average ticket price. Not that the numbers are so out of whack, but they’re disjointed enough to catch your attention.

Off the bat, sales were so robust out the gate that they literally added a second show. That being the case, discounted prices were near nine existent if not at all. Next, this was one of the highest attendances of all recorded shows so far. So you have high volume, high sales rate, and nonexistent discounts. This all adds up to some of the best numbers of the tour. Well...the best laid schemes o' mice an' men gang aft a-gley.

As it stands the $85.48 is currently the lowest average ticket price of the tour. Add on top of that the fact that the gate barely made it to $1.2M. Other attendances with ~13,500 or better made considerably more, some $500,000 more. It’s wuite the divergence.

Okay, so maybe it’s just the Montreal market. Some regions are just different monetarily from others. Nope, I don’t think it’s that either. Let’s look at what KISS did here in 2009 compared to today.

KISS
Bell Centre
Montreal, QC, Canada
July 13, 2009
$992,525
13,566
Average price per ticket $73.16

KISS
Bell Centre
Montreal, QC, Canada
Mar. 19, 2019
$1,214,421
14,207
Average price per ticket $85.48

In 2009 the ATP of $73.16 was one of the highest of that year. In 2019 the aforementioned ATP of $85.48 remains the lowest. It’s truly a tale of two cities.

Something is definitely off. I’d love to know the how’s and why’s of it. Maybe time will tell.
Maybe the discounts were fewer, but with the highest price tickets. Still would have to be on quite a few though. I would have guessed a gross of at least 1.6M for a show with 14,000 attendees...

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Re: New EOTR Boxscores

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KISS are smashing it! 8)

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