New EOTR Boxscores

metaldad · Post by **metaldad** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:16 am

Who would have thought Bob Seger would be making
more money than Kiss ?
Not me

Crown Royal · Post by **Crown Royal** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:17 am

Pretty good numbers for KISS. The Corpus Christi show was a bit of a dog.

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:25 am

metaldad wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:16 am
Who would have thought Bob Seger would be making
more money than Kiss ?
Not me

In December 2009, Billboard and Nielsen SoundScan confirmed that with nearly nine million copies sold, Bob Seger's Greatest Hits was the decade's best-selling catalog album in the United States, even out-selling The Beatles' 1 and Michael Jackson's Number Ones. By September 2011, the album had sold a total of 9,062,000 copies in the United States.

https://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/ ... 260978456/

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:28 am

For those playing at home, I do believe Corpus Christi stands at the highest price per ticket so far. I’m currently up on a roof at the moment, don’t quote me.

Crown Royal · Post by **Crown Royal** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:30 am

nibbler1982 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:28 am
For those playing at home, I do believe Corpus Christi stands at the highest price per ticket so far. I’m currently up on a roof at the moment, don’t quote me.

It's okay, Nibblys, you can quote me...we all know you never, ever, for one second, "ignored" me

metaldad · Post by **metaldad** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:31 am

nibbler1982 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:25 am

metaldad wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:16 am
Who would have thought Bob Seger would be making
more money than Kiss ?
Not me
In December 2009, Billboard and Nielsen SoundScan confirmed that with nearly nine million copies sold, Bob Seger's Greatest Hits was the decade's best-selling catalog album in the United States, even out-selling The Beatles' 1 and Michael Jackson's Number Ones. By September 2011, the album had sold a total of 9,062,000 copies in the United States.

https://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/ ... 260978456/

Jesus
I need to see him before he retires

Post by **Admin** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:53 am

KISS - FedExForum, Memphis, Tenn.
Reported audience: 12,047 / 12,950 (93.03%)
Reported gross: $1,404,952

KISS - Smoothie King Center, New Orleans, La.
Reported audience: 10,677 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,328,420

KISS - Chesapeake Energy Arena, Oklahoma City, Okla.
Reported audience: 11,501 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,322,069

KISS - Sprint Center, Kansas City, Mo.
Reported audience: 10,842 / 12,256 (88.46%)
Reported gross: $1,152,061

KISS - American Bank Center, Corpus Christi, Texas
Reported audience: 7,810 / 8,170 (95.59%)
Reported gross: $1,053,036

Deuce1231 · Post by **Deuce1231** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:18 am

Has anyone seen a score on the Chicago date at the United Center yet?

fhsdemon · Post by **fhsdemon** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:14 am

The NOLA boxscore is impressive because New Orleans is not normally a KISS city. Great crowd, great show.

CStomp1 · Post by **CStomp1** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:33 am

Deuce1231 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:18 am
Has anyone seen a score on the Chicago date at the United Center yet?

Not sure what the hold up is on Chicago. I bet it comes in similar to Cher's numbers at the United Center with a gross maybe just below $2 million.

FlamingRuth · Post by **FlamingRuth** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:46 am

CStomp1 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:33 am

Deuce1231 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:18 am
Has anyone seen a score on the Chicago date at the United Center yet?
Not sure what the hold up is on Chicago. I bet it comes in similar to Cher's numbers at the United Center with a gross maybe just below $2 million.

Haven't seen Glendale yet either...unless I missed something?

metaldad · Post by **metaldad** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:43 am

Lots of seats for Nassau on Friday and they dropped in price

Post by **elleneff** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:29 pm

Admin wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:53 am
KISS - FedExForum, Memphis, Tenn.
Reported audience: 12,047 / 12,950 (93.03%)
Reported gross: $1,404,952

KISS - Smoothie King Center, New Orleans, La.
Reported audience: 10,677 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,328,420

KISS - Chesapeake Energy Arena, Oklahoma City, Okla.
Reported audience: 11,501 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,322,069

KISS - Sprint Center, Kansas City, Mo.
Reported audience: 10,842 / 12,256 (88.46%)
Reported gross: $1,152,061

KISS - American Bank Center, Corpus Christi, Texas
Reported audience: 7,810 / 8,170 (95.59%)
Reported gross: $1,053,036

The data dont lie. Them is some fantastic numbers.

drgbootz · Post by **drgbootz** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:11 pm

Great to see them having success, and on their terms!

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:49 pm

CStomp1 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:33 am

Deuce1231 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:18 am
Has anyone seen a score on the Chicago date at the United Center yet?
Not sure what the hold up is on Chicago. I bet it comes in similar to Cher's numbers at the United Center with a gross maybe just below $2 million.

I like the way you think.

Shane_Penney · Post by **Shane_Penney** » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:42 am

Hearing that there were 15,624 in Montreal.

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:46 am

Shane_Penney wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:42 am
Hearing that there were 15,624 in Montreal.

I believe it’s gotta in that neighborhood. I mean look at 2009.

KISS
Bell Center
Montreal, QC, Canada
July 13, 2009
$992,525
13,566

bassmansteiny · Post by **bassmansteiny** » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:53 am

I hope we hear about Grand Rapids. That is the show I attended and would be pretty cool for it to be sold out. I mean if it isn't it has to be dang close to sold out. I did not notice any empty seats. Last KISS show I saw that sold out was I believe Tiger Stadium. Maybe one of the shows at Pine Knob (DTE), in the mid to late 2000s, not sure about those.

Shane_Penney · Post by **Shane_Penney** » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:54 am

If so, Montreal (15,624) would be the biggest attendance of the tour so far. Of course, we are waiting on Chicago, which could rival it.

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:04 am

Shane_Penney wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:54 am
If so, Montreal (15,624) would be the biggest attendance of the tour so far. Of course, we are waiting on Chicago, which could rival it.

I say true on both accounts.

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:13 am

bassmansteiny wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:53 am
I hope we hear about Grand Rapids. That is the show I attended and would be pretty cool for it to be sold out. I mean if it isn't it has to be dang close to sold out. I did not notice any empty seats. Last KISS show I saw that sold out was I believe Tiger Stadium. Maybe one of the shows at Pine Knob (DTE), in the mid to late 2000s, not sure about those.

I will all but guarantee we get a Grand Rapids boxscore.

bassmansteiny · Post by **bassmansteiny** » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:04 am

Awesome

Crown Royal · Post by **Crown Royal** » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:44 am

nibbler1982 wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:13 am

bassmansteiny wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:53 am
I hope we hear about Grand Rapids. That is the show I attended and would be pretty cool for it to be sold out. I mean if it isn't it has to be dang close to sold out. I did not notice any empty seats. Last KISS show I saw that sold out was I believe Tiger Stadium. Maybe one of the shows at Pine Knob (DTE), in the mid to late 2000s, not sure about those.
I will all but guarantee we get a Grand Rapids boxscore.

I'm saying 10,904 for GR

Nibbsy, if I'm within 500 either way you owe me a signed Paul Lynda poster.

BlairC42 · Post by **BlairC42** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:53 pm

Any new EOTR Boxscores yet?

Post by **Admin** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:23 am

Nothing in a while... Most unpleasant.

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:57 am

Admin wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:23 am
Nothing in a while... Most unpleasant.

Tell me about it.

Most certainly unpleasant.

BlairC42 · Post by **BlairC42** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:53 am

nibbler1982 wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:57 am

Admin wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:23 am
Nothing in a while... Most unpleasant.
Tell me about it.

Most certainly unpleasant.

Ok

Very certainty unpleasant impatient!

Crown Royal · Post by **Crown Royal** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:55 pm

I was out in Philly the last week, was watching a local newscast and they said scattered tickets were available, and that was the morning of the show, so it should be a sellout, or very close

Post by **Admin** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:56 am

KISS - Madison Square Garden, New York, NY
Reported audience: 13,359 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,730,755

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:09 pm

Love seeing MSG!

I wonder where everything in between is?

Deuce1231 · Post by **Deuce1231** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:21 pm

nibbler1982 wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:09 pm
Love seeing MSG!

I wonder where everything in between is?

Chicago and Grand Rapids are conspicuously MIA...

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:33 pm

Deuce1231 wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:21 pm

nibbler1982 wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:09 pm
Love seeing MSG!

I wonder where everything in between is?
Chicago and Grand Rapids are conspicuously MIA...

Yes and no.

The drips and drabs they were coming out at the beginning of the tour was more out of the ordinary than not.

Boxscores come out in all kinds of ways. More often than not, a lot of tours release them in larger blocks of like ten or so shows.

When it’s all said and done I do believe we’ll have almost all of them.

Post by **Admin** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:58 am

March 23 - Mohegan Sun, Uncasville, CT
Reported audience: 7,254 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $969,342

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:14 am

Nice numbers.

I’m happy to get ANYTHING right now. There’s a lot to still be released. I’m fairly confident we’ll get ‘em sooner or later.

Post by **Admin** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:52 am

Apr. 7 - State Farm Arena, Atlanta, GA
Reported audience: 11,357 **SOLD-OUT
Reported gross: $1,324,454

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:01 am

Nice.

LoveGuns · Post by **LoveGuns** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:46 am

No Philly yet?

Ace of Bass · Post by **Ace of Bass** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:32 am

nibbler1982 wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:01 am
Nice.

I'm anxiously waiting for Pittsburgh.

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:01 am

Ace of Bass wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:32 am

nibbler1982 wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:01 am
Nice.
I'm anxiously waiting for Pittsburgh.

I’m waiting for all of them Brother Bass.

Pittsburgh assuredly included.

CrimeDawg · Post by **CrimeDawg** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:35 am

Unless I missed it the one for Louisville hasn't been released yet has it? Very interested in that one since KISS recently hasn't drawn that well in Kentucky.

ObiWanFrehley · Post by **ObiWanFrehley** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:17 am

CrimeDawg wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:35 am
Unless I missed it the one for Louisville hasn't been released yet has it? Very interested in that one since KISS recently hasn't drawn that well in Kentucky.

Yeah KISS historically hasn't done well in Kentucky. At least in the 80s, not sure about the 70s. 1996 reunion show at Freedom Hall had a really good turn out (as did all reunion shows) and the EOTR show was packed. Really good turn out.

Post by **Admin** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:59 pm

Mar. 19 - Bell Centre, Montreal, QC, Canada
Reported audience: 14,207 / 14,756 (96.28%)
Reported gross: $1,214,421
Avg. PPT $85.48, lowest of the dates reported so far.

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:43 pm

Admin wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:59 pm
Mar. 19 - Bell Centre, Montreal, QC, Canada
Reported audience: 14,207 / 14,756 (96.28%)
Reported gross: $1,214,421
Avg. PPT $85.48, lowest of the dates reported so far.

Shocked.

Not that it’s a bad gate. 1.2M...I don’t feel too sorry for ‘em. It’s just that sales were so robust they even added a second show.

Unless the figures get amended, which has happened for a few dates so far...the numbers are what they say they are.

Shane_Penney · Post by **Shane_Penney** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:11 pm

nibbler1982 wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:43 pm

Admin wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:59 pm
Mar. 19 - Bell Centre, Montreal, QC, Canada
Reported audience: 14,207 / 14,756 (96.28%)
Reported gross: $1,214,421
Avg. PPT $85.48, lowest of the dates reported so far.
Shocked.

Not that it’s a bad gate. 1.2M...I don’t feel too sorry for ‘em. It’s just that sales were so robust they even added a second show.

Unless the figures get amended, which has happened for a few dates so far...the numbers are what they say they are.

Is anyone taking into account the currency exchange rate for Montreal? Ticket prices are in Canadian dollars when we buy the tickets. Is the gross in US dollars or Canadian dollars?

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:22 pm

Shane_Penney wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:11 pm

nibbler1982 wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:43 pm

Admin wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:59 pm
Mar. 19 - Bell Centre, Montreal, QC, Canada
Reported audience: 14,207 / 14,756 (96.28%)
Reported gross: $1,214,421
Avg. PPT $85.48, lowest of the dates reported so far.
Shocked.

Not that it’s a bad gate. 1.2M...I don’t feel too sorry for ‘em. It’s just that sales were so robust they even added a second show.

Unless the figures get amended, which has happened for a few dates so far...the numbers are what they say they are.
Is anyone taking into account the currency exchange rate for Montreal? Ticket prices are in Canadian dollars when we buy the tickets. Is the gross in US dollars or Canadian dollars?

I was gonna mention that, but the Vancouver show was right in line with the others. Then again, maybe they got the conversion wrong when the did the math. It’s definitely an anomaly, that one sold very well, very quickly.

If it has a “$”...which it does, I’m gonna say the total’s in US currency.

Post by **Admin** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:26 pm

Gross is in USD. CDN $1,598,870

tmcfaddin · Post by **tmcfaddin** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:29 pm

CrimeDawg wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:35 am
Unless I missed it the one for Louisville hasn't been released yet has it? Very interested in that one since KISS recently hasn't drawn that well in Kentucky.

I was at the Louisville show. If it wasn't sold out, it was very, very close. It was jam packed.

nibbler1982 · Post by **nibbler1982** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:30 am

The Montreal boxscore is quite the anomaly. It’s hard to explain the relatively low gate and average ticket price. Not that the numbers are so out of whack, but they’re disjointed enough to catch your attention.

Off the bat, sales were so robust out the gate that they literally added a second show. That being the case, discounted prices were near nine existent if not at all. Next, this was one of the highest attendances of all recorded shows so far. So you have high volume, high sales rate, and nonexistent discounts. This all adds up to some of the best numbers of the tour. Well...the best laid schemes o' mice an' men gang aft a-gley.

As it stands the $85.48 is currently the lowest average ticket price of the tour. Add on top of that the fact that the gate barely made it to $1.2M. Other attendances with ~13,500 or better made considerably more, some $500,000 more. It’s wuite the divergence.

Okay, so maybe it’s just the Montreal market. Some regions are just different monetarily from others. Nope, I don’t think it’s that either. Let’s look at what KISS did here in 2009 compared to today.

KISS
Bell Centre
Montreal, QC, Canada
July 13, 2009
$992,525
13,566
Average price per ticket $73.16

KISS
Bell Centre
Montreal, QC, Canada
Mar. 19, 2019
$1,214,421
14,207
Average price per ticket $85.48

In 2009 the ATP of $73.16 was one of the highest of that year. In 2019 the aforementioned ATP of $85.48 remains the lowest. It’s truly a tale of two cities.

Something is definitely off. I’d love to know the how’s and why’s of it. Maybe time will tell.

acefan1975 · Post by **acefan1975** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:19 pm

nibbler1982 wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:30 am
The Montreal boxscore is quite the anomaly. It’s hard to explain the relatively low gate and average ticket price. Not that the numbers are so out of whack, but they’re disjointed enough to catch your attention.

Off the bat, sales were so robust out the gate that they literally added a second show. That being the case, discounted prices were near nine existent if not at all. Next, this was one of the highest attendances of all recorded shows so far. So you have high volume, high sales rate, and nonexistent discounts. This all adds up to some of the best numbers of the tour. Well...the best laid schemes o' mice an' men gang aft a-gley.

As it stands the $85.48 is currently the lowest average ticket price of the tour. Add on top of that the fact that the gate barely made it to $1.2M. Other attendances with ~13,500 or better made considerably more, some $500,000 more. It’s wuite the divergence.

Okay, so maybe it’s just the Montreal market. Some regions are just different monetarily from others. Nope, I don’t think it’s that either. Let’s look at what KISS did here in 2009 compared to today.

KISS
Bell Centre
Montreal, QC, Canada
July 13, 2009
$992,525
13,566
Average price per ticket $73.16

KISS
Bell Centre
Montreal, QC, Canada
Mar. 19, 2019
$1,214,421
14,207
Average price per ticket $85.48

In 2009 the ATP of $73.16 was one of the highest of that year. In 2019 the aforementioned ATP of $85.48 remains the lowest. It’s truly a tale of two cities.

Something is definitely off. I’d love to know the how’s and why’s of it. Maybe time will tell.

Maybe the discounts were fewer, but with the highest price tickets. Still would have to be on quite a few though. I would have guessed a gross of at least 1.6M for a show with 14,000 attendees...

Mr Slow · Post by **Mr Slow** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:15 pm

KISS are smashing it!