Lick It Up Cover Conspiracy - Proof?

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Tommyr wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:31 am
kissjrj wrote:In that pic of Mark St. John in the studio, he looks like a Bay City Roller.

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LOL! Nice!
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Fickdich wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:46 am
Ace's Silver Suit wrote:As a side note, Gene wore his pink pirate shirt at least once during the Euro Animalize tour! He put a vest over it - it looked awful!
Gene looked awful for most of the 80s.
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Australia1980 wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:38 am
kisswah wrote:On the last 3 sides of the coin it was talked about that Vinnie was not present at the Lick It Up photosession and replaced by a mannequin.
I took the 3 photos and stacked them on top of each other to see if Vinnies face matches. Then I realized Gene & Eric wearing different clothes.
That's all.
You did a great job with this, kisswah.

KISS needs to hire more competent people. For instance, the wizard who put together this magazine spread of the Animalize sessions.

No Gene? No problem!

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Lol I thought Gene was actually in there, i was wrong :lol:
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There appears to be a metal or plastic bar running down vinnie’s shoulder in the black and white lick it up photo. Mannequins have that .and yeah Paul’s left shoulder is sliced off.

Gene’s headstock on his bass in cut in half on the animalize era pic lol
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There is no way they’d have used a manaquin. A roadie or photographer’s assistant if VV had been ill, maybe, and then composite and airbrush the right head in afterwards.
There was no photoshop, just very skilled people in the darkroom, with a scalpel to negs and with an airbrush.

Generally happened when there was a dispute in the band over which pic to use - if , say, Paul was dead set on a specific shot of himself while someone else was less than flattered by their look in the same frame. Then you’d get a ‘joiner’ to combine different shots into one. Queen’s ‘Sheer Heart Attack’ is a well known example of this. ‘Dynasty took things to ridiculous and costly extremes by not only joining different band members from different shots but even compositing different facial features together.

Actually, here’s a different theory for you- That is Vinnie standing there in the original shots. Forget the awkward angles, the dude always posed in a self conscious and odd way. But he had his own hair in the shots and he looked worse than he does in the LIU video. Just a straggly rat-boy. Paul sees the shots and goes ballistic, but loves the shots of everyone else, so he slaps a wig on Vinnie, they shoot head shots only and the art department strips them in. Voila- you have Dennis’ recollection of VV being there as perfectly correct, and you also have the explanation for why those heads don’t quite seem to sit right.

Well it’s a theory!
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I don't think it was a mannequin since Vinnie and Wolloch said so.
But anyway here is that animation again to see the cut and paste.
You can see that Vinnie's face is the same on all these pictures.
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kisswah wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:46 am I don't think it was a mannequin since Vinnie and Wolloch said so.
But anyway here is that animation again to see the cut and paste.
You can see that Vinnie's face is the same on all these pictures.

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On that last shot, his face is different. That's a polaroid taken at one of the shoots to check lighting etc. There would be zero point in doctoring a polaroid as it would never be used for anything going to print.

The other shots are obviously cut n' paste jobs as you say and I agree that the mannequin theory is highly unlikely.
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Why did they make mark st john wear vinnies wig anyway, was his own hair not good enough?
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Grizzly Adams wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:15 pm
Grizzly Adams wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:34 pm Just found this photo.
Vinnie's head looks like it is set at a strange angle compared to the body.
More mannequin proof?
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Not to mention the prehistoric Photoshop job on Paul Stanley's left arm in this photo.
Something is going on there. It looks like there is no arm in that sleeve. Why would Eric say it was a mannequin if it wasn't?

And yes, Vinnie appears in outtakes but that's clearly different time of session as Gene and i think Eric's outfits have changed. So Vinnie was there definitely for some... if not all. Who knows?
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Is there anything about kiss that isnt fake? I mean theyre one of my all time faves but damn. 😎
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twigz wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:39 pm Is there anything about kiss that isnt fake? I mean theyre one of my all time faves but damn. 😎
Well, let's see.

Bloodspitting, firespitting, drums flying in the air, guitar burning, demon flying to the rafters, biggest band in the world ...

It's definetely a bit much make believe to handle ... 8)
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I don't believe that Vinnie's a mannequin theory cause in Paul's book he clearly stated that Vinnie wore a wig for the album cover shoot and if anything if Vinnie wasn't there and they used a mannequin I believe that Paul would have told in his book, why hide it? I never believe half of the BS told on the Internet cause it's just as bad as the Celebrity Death Hoaxes
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kissjrj wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:05 pm This man went from playing a "demon" in front of the camera to playing Tom Jones.

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NOTHING in the entire hisory of Kisstory is quite as excellent as this pic!!!

He was QUITE the lothario!!

"I'm a gonna fuck your girlfriend! And while I'm at it, I will probably fuck you too!"

The only question is this: Would you resist The Simmons?

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