KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
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Moments of greatness with KISS
September 25, 2021
KISS rocked the Nugget Event Center in Sparks on Thursday during The Final Tour Ever.
I was going to say something like: Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons are world-class performers, and the other two fellas onstage are pretty cool too. But 20 songs later, I was completely sold by Tommy Thayer on guitar and Eric Singer on drums (I was also told that's been the lineup for some 20 years).
The show started with explosive fireworks, "Detroit Rock City" and "Shout It Out Loud". KISS pounded through tunes, performed for cameras, and always hit their mark, hitting cues like broadcast journalists.
As Stanley, Simmons and Thayer swayed together during "Deuce", the huge screen behind them displayed archival footage of them doing the same moves years ago.
KISS' two frontmen aren't just energetic performers and iconic symbols, they also display moments of musical greatness too, like the disco-groove of "I Was Made For Loving You" and the bass fills and riffs in "I Love It Loud" and "Tears Are Falling".
At the end of "Lick It Up" they brought it down to just hi-hats and guitars. It was a great interlude with talented guitar work.
It's easy to disregard bands with gimmicks, like KISS, GWAR and Ghost, but under the make-up and costumes are passion and skill. Any band that can hold the attention of huge arenas deserve respect.
I want to also stress that these badasses are about 70 years old. You can see the sheer joy of performing in their starry eyes. This was the kind of show where you smile like a kid during the entire thing.
"Sparks..." Simmons said hauntingly. "I know where you live."
Retrospective footage was featured on three gigantic screens throughout the evening. They took live footage, added black & white film effects, which made the current show seem historic.
Can you imagine KISS hiring you? You get all dressed up. You're shredding during an outro. Gene Simmons comes over, tongue a foot from his face, slobber drip almost reaching the floor, he rubs his tongue, then the fretboard of your guitar. Tommy Thayer has one hell of a job. He's a ripper too.
During a solo between songs, Thayer not only showed off his skill, but also shot fireworks from the head of his guitar, blowing out the digital overhead lights. For the audience, it was like hitting a bonus game while playing a KISS slot or pinball machine.
During another interlude, Simmons took center stage and slowly let blood pour from his gigantic mouth. Classic.
Eric Singer took an amazing drum solo, sang lead vocals on the verses of "Black Diamond" while Stanley showed off his rhythm guitar skills.
The crowd was enthralled and participating the entire time. Thankfully KISS makes it easy for a crowd - their parts are usually "ooh ooh ooh" or "hey hey hey."
They closed with "Rock and Roll All Nite" in an explosion of confetti.
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September 25, 2021
KISS rocked the Nugget Event Center in Sparks on Thursday during The Final Tour Ever.
I was going to say something like: Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons are world-class performers, and the other two fellas onstage are pretty cool too. But 20 songs later, I was completely sold by Tommy Thayer on guitar and Eric Singer on drums (I was also told that's been the lineup for some 20 years).
The show started with explosive fireworks, "Detroit Rock City" and "Shout It Out Loud". KISS pounded through tunes, performed for cameras, and always hit their mark, hitting cues like broadcast journalists.
As Stanley, Simmons and Thayer swayed together during "Deuce", the huge screen behind them displayed archival footage of them doing the same moves years ago.
KISS' two frontmen aren't just energetic performers and iconic symbols, they also display moments of musical greatness too, like the disco-groove of "I Was Made For Loving You" and the bass fills and riffs in "I Love It Loud" and "Tears Are Falling".
At the end of "Lick It Up" they brought it down to just hi-hats and guitars. It was a great interlude with talented guitar work.
It's easy to disregard bands with gimmicks, like KISS, GWAR and Ghost, but under the make-up and costumes are passion and skill. Any band that can hold the attention of huge arenas deserve respect.
I want to also stress that these badasses are about 70 years old. You can see the sheer joy of performing in their starry eyes. This was the kind of show where you smile like a kid during the entire thing.
"Sparks..." Simmons said hauntingly. "I know where you live."
Retrospective footage was featured on three gigantic screens throughout the evening. They took live footage, added black & white film effects, which made the current show seem historic.
Can you imagine KISS hiring you? You get all dressed up. You're shredding during an outro. Gene Simmons comes over, tongue a foot from his face, slobber drip almost reaching the floor, he rubs his tongue, then the fretboard of your guitar. Tommy Thayer has one hell of a job. He's a ripper too.
During a solo between songs, Thayer not only showed off his skill, but also shot fireworks from the head of his guitar, blowing out the digital overhead lights. For the audience, it was like hitting a bonus game while playing a KISS slot or pinball machine.
During another interlude, Simmons took center stage and slowly let blood pour from his gigantic mouth. Classic.
Eric Singer took an amazing drum solo, sang lead vocals on the verses of "Black Diamond" while Stanley showed off his rhythm guitar skills.
The crowd was enthralled and participating the entire time. Thankfully KISS makes it easy for a crowd - their parts are usually "ooh ooh ooh" or "hey hey hey."
They closed with "Rock and Roll All Nite" in an explosion of confetti.
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
What's with these reviews and this "energetic" horseshit!? Next to Phil "Weekend At Bernie's" Collins they would be energetic, but come on....
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Yet another mad FaqAttaqer … mad at old men because they can’t make him feel 12 again.Den Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:03 pm What's with these reviews and this "energetic" horseshit!? Next to Phil "Weekend At Bernie's" Collins they would be energetic, but come on....
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I am happy I am 49, and anytime I hear, or see KISS I truly feel 12 again.
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Reviewer: "I saw KISS. They were good. I had fun."
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As opposed to you, who actually does feel (and act) like a twelve year old.Much Too Soon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:50 pmYet another mad FaqAttaqer … mad at old men because they can’t make him feel 12 again.Den Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:03 pm What's with these reviews and this "energetic" horseshit!? Next to Phil "Weekend At Bernie's" Collins they would be energetic, but come on....
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Much Too Soon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:50 pmYet another mad FaqAttaqer … mad at old men because they can’t make him feel 12 again.Den Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:03 pm What's with these reviews and this "energetic" horseshit!? Next to Phil "Weekend At Bernie's" Collins they would be energetic, but come on....
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Den Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:26 amMuch Too Soon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:50 pmYet another mad FaqAttaqer … mad at old men because they can’t make him feel 12 again.Den Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:03 pm What's with these reviews and this "energetic" horseshit!? Next to Phil "Weekend At Bernie's" Collins they would be energetic, but come on....
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Correct. Welcome to the FAQ, where good reviews are "fanboy bias" or "on the payroll", and bad reviews are "balanced and objective"TheKISSProject7312 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:45 am Reviewer: "I saw KISS. They were good. I had fun."
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I think it is odd to argue with somebody enjoying themselves, but go ahead.
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I wonder if Sparks know and love Kiss.
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Yep…. Here they come like flies
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The review wasn't like that though. It was ridiculous over the top gushing like it was his first rock concert ever. We all know that KISS isn't firing on all cylinders anymore and of course the miming.TheKISSProject7312 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:45 am Reviewer: "I saw KISS. They were good. I had fun."
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Concert reviews back in the day would talk about the good, the bad and ugly (if there was any) with a show. They didn't write reviews as if they were on the band's payroll.
This review comes across as that.
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There is a difference between a good review and ridiculous gushing, that yes - makes it look like they are on KISS' payroll. Dial it down big time even for the purpose of trying to be respected as a concert reviewer. Even a good review can have objectivity.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:46 amCorrect. Welcome to the FAQ, where good reviews are "fanboy bias" or "on the payroll", and bad reviews are "balanced and objective"TheKISSProject7312 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:45 am Reviewer: "I saw KISS. They were good. I had fun."
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It's worth remembering that some reviewers, back in the day - an example being Geoff Barton of Sounds/Kerrang - were FAR more OTT than any of these reviewers in their gushing praise of Kiss, with Barton himself describing the Kiss show at the time as being (paraphrasing here) "the greatest show on earth, maybe the greatest show in music history", but he never ever came under fire like the reviewers today.
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Well using that specific example - would it be more accurate then vs. the band in their 70's today that are miming and can barely move?TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:31 am It's worth remembering that some reviewers, back in the day - an example being Geoff Barton of Sounds/Kerrang - were FAR more OTT than any of these reviewers in their gushing praise of Kiss, with Barton himself describing the Kiss show at the time as being (paraphrasing here) "the greatest show on earth, maybe the greatest show in music history", but he never ever came under fire like the reviewers today.
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Ah - effusive gush is ok if it's about the 70's band. I see.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:36 amWell using that specific example - would it be more accurate then vs. the band in their 70's today that are miming and can barely move?TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:31 am It's worth remembering that some reviewers, back in the day - an example being Geoff Barton of Sounds/Kerrang - were FAR more OTT than any of these reviewers in their gushing praise of Kiss, with Barton himself describing the Kiss show at the time as being (paraphrasing here) "the greatest show on earth, maybe the greatest show in music history", but he never ever came under fire like the reviewers today.
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Those shows were pretty great...in the 70s and 80s.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:31 am It's worth remembering that some reviewers, back in the day - an example being Geoff Barton of Sounds/Kerrang - were FAR more OTT than any of these reviewers in their gushing praise of Kiss, with Barton himself describing the Kiss show at the time as being (paraphrasing here) "the greatest show on earth, maybe the greatest show in music history", but he never ever came under fire like the reviewers today.
Now they just suck. Ok there's mitigating circumstances like age and the wrong hires playing parts..but still it's not that great.
Plus back then it wasn't about nostalgia and reliving your youth whilst the babysitter looks after the grandchildren...it actually was your youth and the band and audience were a forward-looking, exciting thing.
Saying they "deserve respect" is just lining them up like Rodney Dangerfield. Couple of the guys are literally wearing someone else's costunes and deserve as much respect as the cast of Cats.
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No, but it's more valid when someone is actually in their prime. Be it music, sports, whatever. You know that.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:47 amAh - effusive gush is ok if it's about the 70's band. I see.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:36 amWell using that specific example - would it be more accurate then vs. the band in their 70's today that are miming and can barely move?TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:31 am It's worth remembering that some reviewers, back in the day - an example being Geoff Barton of Sounds/Kerrang - were FAR more OTT than any of these reviewers in their gushing praise of Kiss, with Barton himself describing the Kiss show at the time as being (paraphrasing here) "the greatest show on earth, maybe the greatest show in music history", but he never ever came under fire like the reviewers today.
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I just saw them last night at Chula Vista and, frankly, this review is being quite on point.
I had low expectations given I’ve actually gotten restless at KISS shows since 2014, but last night they were quite simply really fucking good. Keep in mind that I just came from the Life Is Beautiful festival last weekend in Vegas - so the barometer was being up against young and new acts. They truly held their own.
I had low expectations given I’ve actually gotten restless at KISS shows since 2014, but last night they were quite simply really fucking good. Keep in mind that I just came from the Life Is Beautiful festival last weekend in Vegas - so the barometer was being up against young and new acts. They truly held their own.
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Can't agree. OTT gushing is OTT gushing regardless of the era. Just because you or I might prefer one or other, is irrelevant.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:57 amNo, but it's more valid when someone is actually in their prime. Be it music, sports, whatever. You know that.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:47 amAh - effusive gush is ok if it's about the 70's band. I see.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:36 amWell using that specific example - would it be more accurate then vs. the band in their 70's today that are miming and can barely move?TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:31 am It's worth remembering that some reviewers, back in the day - an example being Geoff Barton of Sounds/Kerrang - were FAR more OTT than any of these reviewers in their gushing praise of Kiss, with Barton himself describing the Kiss show at the time as being (paraphrasing here) "the greatest show on earth, maybe the greatest show in music history", but he never ever came under fire like the reviewers today.
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You can't agree that people are better in their prime and so maybe KISS was actually the greatest show at the time?TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:55 pmCan't agree. OTT gushing is OTT gushing regardless of the era. Just because you or I might prefer one or other, is irrelevant.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:57 amNo, but it's more valid when someone is actually in their prime. Be it music, sports, whatever. You know that.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:47 amAh - effusive gush is ok if it's about the 70's band. I see.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:36 am
Well using that specific example - would it be more accurate then vs. the band in their 70's today that are miming and can barely move?
Fair enough though. It's over the top gushing in both regards. One just makes more sense than the other from a factual standpoint.
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As you know, I feel that 70's Kiss was not "all that" especially musically. I'm sure it was magical if you were a kid etc, but musically - and I only speak for myself - nah.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:05 pmYou can't agree that people are better in their prime and so maybe KISS was actually the greatest show at the time?TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:55 pmCan't agree. OTT gushing is OTT gushing regardless of the era. Just because you or I might prefer one or other, is irrelevant.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:57 amNo, but it's more valid when someone is actually in their prime. Be it music, sports, whatever. You know that.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:47 am
Ah - effusive gush is ok if it's about the 70's band. I see.
Fair enough though. It's over the top gushing in both regards. One just makes more sense than the other from a factual standpoint.
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I thought the reviewer was describing a KISS concert, maybe his first (I am not sure) . KISS is a fucking spectacle. Even the most jaded KISS fan should be able to recall that.
It is a sight to behold. They do entertain. I have taken family and friends that were totally blown away. That is most casual fans are seeing , feeling and hearing.
For those of us who argue over fave Color Variant of an album we are not even buying, we have been at the party to long, some of these folks kind of just got here. The reviewer was not aware and surprised to find out the Tommy and Eric had been in the band so long.
The review is legit , from a fairly casual fan. That is what they see.
It is a sight to behold. They do entertain. I have taken family and friends that were totally blown away. That is most casual fans are seeing , feeling and hearing.
For those of us who argue over fave Color Variant of an album we are not even buying, we have been at the party to long, some of these folks kind of just got here. The reviewer was not aware and surprised to find out the Tommy and Eric had been in the band so long.
The review is legit , from a fairly casual fan. That is what they see.
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I forgot you were kooky and that the only era of KISS that actually matters is a low point for you.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:18 pmAs you know, I feel that 70's Kiss was not "all that" especially musically. I'm sure it was magical if you were a kid etc, but musically - and I only speak for myself - nah.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:05 pmYou can't agree that people are better in their prime and so maybe KISS was actually the greatest show at the time?TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:55 pmCan't agree. OTT gushing is OTT gushing regardless of the era. Just because you or I might prefer one or other, is irrelevant.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:57 am
No, but it's more valid when someone is actually in their prime. Be it music, sports, whatever. You know that.
Fair enough though. It's over the top gushing in both regards. One just makes more sense than the other from a factual standpoint.
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That's for the first-hand report!God Of Ritmo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:28 pm I just saw them last night at Chula Vista and, frankly, this review is being quite on point...last night they were quite simply really fucking good.
Yet another positive review from a KISS Forum member (that actually attended an EOTR show).
Good stuff.
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Why don't the cast of Cats deserve respect? You ever tried dancing like that for 2 hours?Mackemkiss wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:54 am Couple of the guys are literally wearing someone else's costunes and deserve as much respect as the cast of Cats.
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^^^I thought the reviewer was describing a KISS concert, maybe his first (I am not sure) . KISS is a fucking spectacle. Even the most jaded KISS fan should be able to recall that.
It is a sight to behold. They do entertain. I have taken family and friends that were totally blown away. That is most casual fans are seeing , feeling and hearing.
For those of us who argue over fave Color Variant of an album we are not even buying, we have been at the party to long, some of these folks kind of just got here. The reviewer was not aware and surprised to find out the Tommy and Eric had been in the band so long.
The review is legit , from a fairly casual fan. That is what they see.
THIS!!!
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True. I also didn't think this particular review was all that OTT. It was very positive, but are we really so jaded now that people think that it's not possible for someone else to have a "holy shit" response to the band?nightwingken wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:19 pm I thought the reviewer was describing a KISS concert, maybe his first (I am not sure) . KISS is a fucking spectacle. Even the most jaded KISS fan should be able to recall that.
It is a sight to behold. They do entertain. I have taken family and friends that were totally blown away. That is most casual fans are seeing , feeling and hearing.
For those of us who argue over fave Color Variant of an album we are not even buying, we have been at the party to long, some of these folks kind of just got here. The reviewer was not aware and surprised to find out the Tommy and Eric had been in the band so long.
The review is legit , from a fairly casual fan. That is what they see.
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When KISS are so far removed from being even remotely close to their prime, phone in their performance and mime now on top of that? Perhaps.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:06 amTrue. I also didn't think this particular review was all that OTT. It was very positive, but are we really so jaded now that people think that it's not possible for someone else to have a "holy shit" response to the band?nightwingken wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:19 pm I thought the reviewer was describing a KISS concert, maybe his first (I am not sure) . KISS is a fucking spectacle. Even the most jaded KISS fan should be able to recall that.
It is a sight to behold. They do entertain. I have taken family and friends that were totally blown away. That is most casual fans are seeing , feeling and hearing.
For those of us who argue over fave Color Variant of an album we are not even buying, we have been at the party to long, some of these folks kind of just got here. The reviewer was not aware and surprised to find out the Tommy and Eric had been in the band so long.
The review is legit , from a fairly casual fan. That is what they see.
But sure, shit still blows up real good and I guess that is enough for the casual's who couldn't name 5 KISS songs with a gun to their head.
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Kinda like the Reunion period, in many ways.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:29 amWhen KISS are so far removed from being even remotely close to their prime, phone in their performance and mime now on top of that? Perhaps.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:06 amTrue. I also didn't think this particular review was all that OTT. It was very positive, but are we really so jaded now that people think that it's not possible for someone else to have a "holy shit" response to the band?nightwingken wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:19 pm I thought the reviewer was describing a KISS concert, maybe his first (I am not sure) . KISS is a fucking spectacle. Even the most jaded KISS fan should be able to recall that.
It is a sight to behold. They do entertain. I have taken family and friends that were totally blown away. That is most casual fans are seeing , feeling and hearing.
For those of us who argue over fave Color Variant of an album we are not even buying, we have been at the party to long, some of these folks kind of just got here. The reviewer was not aware and surprised to find out the Tommy and Eric had been in the band so long.
The review is legit , from a fairly casual fan. That is what they see.
But sure, shit still blows up real good and I guess that is enough for the casual's who couldn't name 5 KISS songs with a gun to their head.
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
I am pretty sure Gene was able to move around then and Paul could sing. That KISS were MUCH closer to their prime then than they are now.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:59 amKinda like the Reunion period, in many ways.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:29 amWhen KISS are so far removed from being even remotely close to their prime, phone in their performance and mime now on top of that? Perhaps.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:06 amTrue. I also didn't think this particular review was all that OTT. It was very positive, but are we really so jaded now that people think that it's not possible for someone else to have a "holy shit" response to the band?nightwingken wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:19 pm I thought the reviewer was describing a KISS concert, maybe his first (I am not sure) . KISS is a fucking spectacle. Even the most jaded KISS fan should be able to recall that.
It is a sight to behold. They do entertain. I have taken family and friends that were totally blown away. That is most casual fans are seeing , feeling and hearing.
For those of us who argue over fave Color Variant of an album we are not even buying, we have been at the party to long, some of these folks kind of just got here. The reviewer was not aware and surprised to find out the Tommy and Eric had been in the band so long.
The review is legit , from a fairly casual fan. That is what they see.
But sure, shit still blows up real good and I guess that is enough for the casual's who couldn't name 5 KISS songs with a gun to their head.
For casuals who never cared about KISS' music and just wanted to see the spectacle, then yes - that's all they were there for as well - to see shit blow up real good.
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
Except they got more than that. They got relatively energetic guys putting on a display of their ability to play, as well. The “casual” I went with was most blown away by the solos and jams. He’s a musician.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:44 pmI am pretty sure Gene was able to move around then and Paul could sing. That KISS were MUCH closer to their prime then than they are now.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:59 amKinda like the Reunion period, in many ways.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:29 amWhen KISS are so far removed from being even remotely close to their prime, phone in their performance and mime now on top of that? Perhaps.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:06 am
True. I also didn't think this particular review was all that OTT. It was very positive, but are we really so jaded now that people think that it's not possible for someone else to have a "holy shit" response to the band?
But sure, shit still blows up real good and I guess that is enough for the casual's who couldn't name 5 KISS songs with a gun to their head.
For casuals who never cared about KISS' music and just wanted to see the spectacle, then yes - that's all they were there for as well - to see shit blow up real good.
They bring the spectacle, but they aren’t just riding on that.
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
That's great. The reunion was also a grim and glaringly obvious musical decline from the performances of the 80's and early 90's. Will you also overlook that chestnut because it's what you wanted to see for the sake of nostalgia?Grand Classic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:44 pmI am pretty sure Gene was able to move around then and Paul could sing. That KISS were MUCH closer to their prime then than they are now.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:59 amKinda like the Reunion period, in many ways.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:29 amWhen KISS are so far removed from being even remotely close to their prime, phone in their performance and mime now on top of that? Perhaps.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:06 am
True. I also didn't think this particular review was all that OTT. It was very positive, but are we really so jaded now that people think that it's not possible for someone else to have a "holy shit" response to the band?
But sure, shit still blows up real good and I guess that is enough for the casual's who couldn't name 5 KISS songs with a gun to their head.
For casuals who never cared about KISS' music and just wanted to see the spectacle, then yes - that's all they were there for as well - to see shit blow up real good.
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
I never looked to KISS as being virtuosos. Outside of couple of albums, KISS weren't making great music during that time you speak of and were quite often boring live, so it really didn't matter to me.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:49 pmThat's great. The reunion was also a grim and glaringly obvious musical decline from the performances of the 80's and early 90's. Will you also overlook that chestnut because it's what you wanted to see for the sake of nostalgia?Grand Classic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:44 pmI am pretty sure Gene was able to move around then and Paul could sing. That KISS were MUCH closer to their prime then than they are now.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:59 amKinda like the Reunion period, in many ways.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:29 am
When KISS are so far removed from being even remotely close to their prime, phone in their performance and mime now on top of that? Perhaps.
But sure, shit still blows up real good and I guess that is enough for the casual's who couldn't name 5 KISS songs with a gun to their head.
For casuals who never cared about KISS' music and just wanted to see the spectacle, then yes - that's all they were there for as well - to see shit blow up real good.
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
Thank you for sharing your experience with us. I always thought Eric Singer was and is an exceptional drummer. Although I much prefer his style during the Revenge/Alive 3 era. Tommy, while not my favorite KISS Lead Axeman, and makeup controversy aside he earned his place in the band.StillAlive wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 12:10 pm Moments of greatness with KISS
September 25, 2021
KISS rocked the Nugget Event Center in Sparks on Thursday during The Final Tour Ever.
I was just thinking the other day, that it seems like it wasn't that long ago that Bruce was still in KISS, to me anyway. Then I realized he jas been in GFR for about 20 years now, longer than he spent in KISS!!! Guess it's a sign I'm an old fart now.
Again, thank you for the enthusiasm for our band. It is a rare thing these days and nice to read.
Edit: Just realized this is from an article and not the OP's personal review of the show, lol.
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
So, in the Reunion period there were two members of KISS who could bring it and two that couldn't, and there was lots of shit blowing up.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:44 pmI am pretty sure Gene was able to move around then and Paul could sing. That KISS were MUCH closer to their prime then than they are now.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:59 amKinda like the Reunion period, in many ways.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:29 amWhen KISS are so far removed from being even remotely close to their prime, phone in their performance and mime now on top of that? Perhaps.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:06 am
True. I also didn't think this particular review was all that OTT. It was very positive, but are we really so jaded now that people think that it's not possible for someone else to have a "holy shit" response to the band?
But sure, shit still blows up real good and I guess that is enough for the casual's who couldn't name 5 KISS songs with a gun to their head.
For casuals who never cared about KISS' music and just wanted to see the spectacle, then yes - that's all they were there for as well - to see shit blow up real good.
And this is is different to now how, exactly?
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
Ace and Peter were perfectly fine at the concerts that I saw. Also it was Ace and Peter and not two people pretending to be them - Thayer who is boring as fuck and Eric who is just bored being in the band and would rather be elsewhere if the pay was the same.TheKISSProject7312 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:42 amSo, in the Reunion period there were two members of KISS who could bring it and two that couldn't, and there was lots of shit blowing up.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:44 pmI am pretty sure Gene was able to move around then and Paul could sing. That KISS were MUCH closer to their prime then than they are now.TheSpoiler wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:59 amKinda like the Reunion period, in many ways.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:29 am
When KISS are so far removed from being even remotely close to their prime, phone in their performance and mime now on top of that? Perhaps.
But sure, shit still blows up real good and I guess that is enough for the casual's who couldn't name 5 KISS songs with a gun to their head.
For casuals who never cared about KISS' music and just wanted to see the spectacle, then yes - that's all they were there for as well - to see shit blow up real good.
And this is is different to now how, exactly?
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
I've seen Reunion clips where Ace is playing like he has a broken hand and Peter's drums are so triggered they're trying to cancel people on Twitter. Let's not act like it was a musical golden era for the band. Thayer might be boring, but at least he can play the same shit night after night. And when Eric paints a fucking tear drop on his makeup, then we'll talk about not wanting to be there.
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
At the end of the day, it's still REAL KISS vs. what we have today. The original members of any band is going to usually supersede replacement members and wannabes in later versions of that band.TheKISSProject7312 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:13 am I've seen Reunion clips where Ace is playing like he has a broken hand and Peter's drums are so triggered they're trying to cancel people on Twitter. Let's not act like it was a musical golden era for the band. Thayer might be boring, but at least he can play the same shit night after night. And when Eric paints a fucking tear drop on his makeup, then we'll talk about not wanting to be there.
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
Ace and Peter playing like utter shit is preferable to Tommy and Eric playing well. Got it.
Look, I know what you're saying and to an extent I agree, but I'll take the Rock the Nation tour over the Psycho Circus tour every single time.
Just because it's the original guys, it doesn't automatically make it better every time.
YMM (and probably will) V.
EDIT: Just noticed you said "usually" in your post. That's uncharacteristically reasonable of you, GC
EDIT EDIT: That's supposed to be a winking face. Not sure why it looks drunk.
Look, I know what you're saying and to an extent I agree, but I'll take the Rock the Nation tour over the Psycho Circus tour every single time.
Just because it's the original guys, it doesn't automatically make it better every time.
YMM (and probably will) V.
EDIT: Just noticed you said "usually" in your post. That's uncharacteristically reasonable of you, GC
EDIT EDIT: That's supposed to be a winking face. Not sure why it looks drunk.
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
I said usually because I am sure some AC/DC fans do prefer the Brian Johnson era or VH fans prefer the Sammy Hagar era for example.TheKISSProject7312 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:20 am Ace and Peter playing like utter shit is preferable to Tommy and Eric playing well. Got it.
Look, I know what you're saying and to an extent I agree, but I'll take the Rock the Nation tour over the Psycho Circus tour every single time.
Just because it's the original guys, it doesn't automatically make it better every time.
YMM (and probably will) V.
EDIT: Just noticed you said "usually" in your post. That's uncharacteristically reasonable of you, GC
EDIT EDIT: That's supposed to be a winking face. Not sure why it looks drunk.
I don't care to pay for and see nobodies who may be "better musicians" - I want to see the people who created the music in the first place and the chemistry that those 4 members have with each other, with the knowledge that they weren't virtuosos in the 70's either and had bad shows in their prime as well.
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
So don't go see them, my dude. Simple as that.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:43 amI said usually because I am sure some AC/DC fans do prefer the Brian Johnson era or VH fans prefer the Sammy Hagar era for example.TheKISSProject7312 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:20 am Ace and Peter playing like utter shit is preferable to Tommy and Eric playing well. Got it.
Look, I know what you're saying and to an extent I agree, but I'll take the Rock the Nation tour over the Psycho Circus tour every single time.
Just because it's the original guys, it doesn't automatically make it better every time.
YMM (and probably will) V.
EDIT: Just noticed you said "usually" in your post. That's uncharacteristically reasonable of you, GC
EDIT EDIT: That's supposed to be a winking face. Not sure why it looks drunk.
I don't care to pay for and see nobodies who may be "better musicians" - I want to see the people who created the music in the first place and the chemistry that those 4 members have with each other, with the knowledge that they weren't virtuosos in the 70's either and had bad shows in their prime as well.
I wouldn't really call Eric Singer a nobody, but that's neither here nor there.
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
I just can't really understand the "better musicians" argument overall.TheKISSProject7312 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:47 amSo don't go see them, my dude. Simple as that.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:43 amI said usually because I am sure some AC/DC fans do prefer the Brian Johnson era or VH fans prefer the Sammy Hagar era for example.TheKISSProject7312 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:20 am Ace and Peter playing like utter shit is preferable to Tommy and Eric playing well. Got it.
Look, I know what you're saying and to an extent I agree, but I'll take the Rock the Nation tour over the Psycho Circus tour every single time.
Just because it's the original guys, it doesn't automatically make it better every time.
YMM (and probably will) V.
EDIT: Just noticed you said "usually" in your post. That's uncharacteristically reasonable of you, GC
EDIT EDIT: That's supposed to be a winking face. Not sure why it looks drunk.
I don't care to pay for and see nobodies who may be "better musicians" - I want to see the people who created the music in the first place and the chemistry that those 4 members have with each other, with the knowledge that they weren't virtuosos in the 70's either and had bad shows in their prime as well.
I wouldn't really call Eric Singer a nobody, but that's neither here nor there.
KISS weren't great musicians from day one and sometimes put on sloppy or bad shows in their prime, so it doesn't really make much sense that musicianship is SO important now for some people.
KISS had better musicians in the 80's too, but outside of a couple of albums - the music was terrible and they were boring live.
I liked Singer when he joined KISS and played like a man on fire during Revenge/Unplugged/COS, but he is totally bored with KISS now and it shows - he's almost asleep at the wheel.
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Them's fightin' words, partner.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:05 am
KISS had better musicians in the 80's too, but outside of a couple of albums - the music was terrible and they were boring live.
I like 80s KISS a whole lot.
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Re: KISS rocked Sparks: "energetic performers, iconic symbols, musical greatness, passion and skill...deserve respect"
Hopefully not Animalize, Asylum, CN and HITS. Mostly garbage.TheKISSProject7312 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:12 amWhoa, whoa, whoa. Them's fightin' words, partner.Grand Classic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:05 am
KISS had better musicians in the 80's too, but outside of a couple of albums - the music was terrible and they were boring live.
I like 80s KISS a whole lot.