Was Paul's father also uncomfortable with Paul wearing a genuine Nazi outfit? Not a costume, but the real deal?41Mets wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:58 amThere is a Jewish slur that starts with those two letters. Gene got so mad at first he raised his fist, the story goes. Whatever his intention was he was being disgusting about it and Gene let it slide. It's in the "Hellbox" book about Sean Delaney. I can certainly believe it. Again, Paul also said his father was uncomfortable with the logo.redinthesky wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:49 amI think there's a bit of embellishment in that story. First, I don't think Ace designed the Kiss logo as some kind of nazi tribute or out of a need to get something 'nazi' in the logo, I believe Ace, being familiar with it, simply thought the nazi "SS" looked cool (which, their original use notwithstanding, they do), and he used it for the logo. And that "K-I" thing meaning they are about Gene and Paul I think is nonsense, if anything just an of-color joke Ace told once. Heck, I never even heard of that until right now and I have absolutely no idea what the "K-I" are supposed to mean in that regard towards Gene and Paul.41Mets wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:19 amYes, I have seen that too, and it was baffling. As was the passage in the Sean Delaney book when Ace told Gene that he designed the Kiss logo after the Nazi SS, saying the SS was for him, and the KI was for Gene and Paul, you two (slurs).TheKISSProject7312 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:06 am
I'm not excusing anyone but I have seen with my eyes a photo of Paul Stanley dressed as a Nazi, so Paul obviously didn't have too much of a problem with that kind of thing at the time. Again does it excuse it, no, absolutley not. But it does make me wonder why Paul is so quick to condemn Ace and Peter for it now, when he seemed happy to participate in such behaviour in the 70s.
Again tho, Paul came up with the name Kiss, and if Ace made a one-time joke about the K-i, it's just not gonna bother me. When Gene made a remark about "gentiles" while fixing his car or whatnot, did that cause an uproar? Peter, Ace and Paul wearing actual Nazi outfits, a Kiss logo supposedly a nazi tribute, where's the line a Kiss member has to cross then before a fan gets truly offended and tosses his Kiss albums in the trash?
None of these things seem to really bother anyone here that much because we're still all here cheerleading the band, especially the 70s band.