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I've done a 180 on the 78 Gene Simmons solo album

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Never cared too much for this album with the exception of "See You Tonite".

However, really been appreciating it in the last few weeks. Showcases Gene's songwriting variety. Really love songs like "Man of 1000 Faces" and "Always Near You/Nowhere to Hide". Still don't care for the version of "See You In Your Dreams". It's a good song, but I prefer the RARO version.

I can understand the disappointment for many when it came out because it isn't a very demonic record with the exception of beginning of "Radioactive". But this album has a lot of good songs imo.
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Legsofsteel wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:44 am Really love songs like "Man of 1000 Faces" and "Always Near You/Nowhere to Hide".
Those are the highlights for me too, along with "See You Tonight".
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Imo too. Man of 1000 Faces has been my favorite song from his album since the day I got it as a kid.
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While i love Gene's solo album, it could have been a lot better had they not overproduced the album and had so many guests. When listening to some of the demo's you can hear what could have been.

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I love
Always near/ Nowhere to hide
Man of a thousand face
See you tonite
Living in sin
Radioactive
Burning up with fever

I can enjoy this record when in the mood for it.
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Me too.

When I got it as a eighth grader on the day of its release… I was very disappointed too… I did not like the Beatles stuff at all at the time lol…

The best track was
the intro and radioactive…

Followed maybe buy
burning up with fever and Tunnel of love…


The goofiness of
living in sin
didn’t bother me that much for some reason…

But I thought that
true confessions
had a almost Donny and Marie variety show flavor to it… Similar too was his new rendition of
See you in your dreams.

When you wish soon a star…
I had already read in Hyppa raider I believe why Gene chose that song…
And it made good sense to me

I was a horror fan so I enjoyed
man of 1000 faces and Gene’s love of Lon Chaney Senior…

That being said eventually in the mid 80’s I discovered and loved the Beatles.

Now
my favorite song is definitely

see you tonight…
I enjoy the other Beatles songs and
man of 1000 faces….

Then probably
radioactive along with a scary intro…

My least favorite still remains

true confessions…
It sounds like a performance from the Carol Burnett show or some other weekly 70’s variety show.
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I LOVE THIS ALBUM.

I almost would have been fine if Gene left KISS and continued in this direction. I certainly would have been interested in this artist if it was a debut album.
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It's the first one that I bought in 1984, but now I think that it's the weakest of the four. Radioactive, Burning up... and See you tonite are the good songs on that album.
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Great album, I’ve come to appreciate it more over the years.
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The Females ruined the album
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I never liked it, it remains a big disappointment for me
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I agree! Great to see another fan come around to the Gene solo album. I've done the same recently. Paul and Ace's records are more straight-ahead, almost like a hidden Kiss album. Peter's record doesn't do anything for me, save for You Matter to Me and a few other songs.

I revisit Gene's solo album because it's fun, different music. Man of 1,000 Faces, Burning Up with Fever, Living in Sin, Radioactive - so many songs that I like having on around the house or in the car.
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I have always liked it. It sure was a surprise when it came out for it was so much different than I expected. Kiss song is the only one I don't like. Original is way better. I remember Gene saying something that he didn't like the way Paul played guitar on this one.
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It's obvious Gene needs a producer. When he calls the shots, we get solo albums with no apparent direction and, to be honest, not many good songs.
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lespaul wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:53 am The Females ruined the album
Well, that or the way Sean Delaney produced/directed/mixed them. I always say the sleaze rock songs on Gene's album sound like they're supposed to be in some sort of failed Rocky Horror Picture Show ripoff. The songs, as shown in that demo posted above, are solid and get the vibe across but the production and screeching chorus girls just make the whole thing seem overly campy and like it's being performed so row Z can hear it all. They sound like songs from an over the top stage show, and stage shows can wear thin in a hurry.

Listening to Sean's Highway album is what made it pretty clear that the guy is all about the chorus girls. I get that the screaming throngs of women fits the vibe of Gene's album, but it gets to be a bit much to my ears and the subject gets a bit redundant, to boot. But I've always said the solo albums, as much as I love 'em, each have one side of dynamite music and could have been a grand double LP set rather than 4 clearly drawn out and redundant solo LPs.

But more is more and more is good, too. At any rate, I'd still put Gene's album 4th but the 78 solos are more about the mood I'm in rather than a best to worst ranking.
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Love it. One of the best KISS albums, top 10 for sure.

Gene's, Paul's and Ace's solo albums are better than some of the original 6 in my book.
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Tito wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:51 am
Legsofsteel wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:44 am Really love songs like "Man of 1000 Faces" and "Always Near You/Nowhere to Hide".
Those are the highlights for me too, along with "See You Tonight".
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I loved it when I got it in 1978 and still love it today. Great record!
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It has one good song and is one of the worst albums ever recorded. Asshole has no good songs and is even worse though.
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Coincidentally, I just revisited Gene's solo album last week for the first time in a LOT of years. I liked it ok when they all came out in '78, but I appreciate it a lot more now. Back then, when I was a teenager, I wanted...and was expecting...a lot of heavier material from Gene. Thought it shoulda sounded more like a KISS album, but I realize that I was somewhat missing the point. The idea was for them to be somewhat self-indulgent and do whatever they wanted to do. I remember reading a review in late '78 that compared it to Alice Cooper, and I don't think that was far off; some tongue-in-cheek humor and theatrics. I still think it would've benefited from a couple of really crunchy hard rock songs vs a couple of the lighter tunes, but overall, I think it's a great album that's aged well.
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Always loved it. 10/10.
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69th_B1izard wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:03 am While i love Gene's solo album, it could have been a lot better had they not overproduced the album and had so many guests. When listening to some of the demo's you can hear what could have been.

Not even the Van Halen brothers could save this turd. 💩
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I love the album for what it is, but in my opinion Gene needed a real producer. The record has moments where it really sounds like it was produced by a choreographer.
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lespaul wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:53 am The Females ruined the album
Yeah, I'd say "f#ck 'em!
Only joking of course.

But I also do think that some of the female vocals actually ruin some songs. Although Donna Summer and Cher are cool!
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Legsofsteel wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:44 am Never cared too much for this album with the exception of "See You Tonite".

However, really been appreciating it in the last few weeks. Showcases Gene's songwriting variety. Really love songs like "Man of 1000 Faces" and "Always Near You/Nowhere to Hide". Still don't care for the version of "See You In Your Dreams". It's a good song, but I prefer the RARO version.

I can understand the disappointment for many when it came out because it isn't a very demonic record with the exception of beginning of "Radioactive". But this album has a lot of good songs imo.
Same here. Over the last 2 years that and Paul's have gotten a ton of spins from me. More than Ace's. I just still can't get into Pete's. Gene's may even edge out Paul's lately for me. I dig the eclectic feel of the record. There's a little bit of everything on it and it is cool to hear some of those Beatle-esque tunes that show what Gene's influences were.

Side note.... my parents actually bought me the vinyl (still have it!) when I was 5 years old in '78. The beginning of the record used to scare the sh*t out of me and I would have to skip through. Still kind of freaky to me today at 48!
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lespaul wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:53 am The Females ruined the album
Okey-dokey...
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I love all 4 of them.
All 4 different and all great.
Gene's solo album is the most eclectic.
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Loved the album since I first heard in mid-80's.
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Took me a long while to get into it, but there's a lot more to it than meets the eye. It still doesn't cohere well as an album...it somehow reminds me of a mixtape made up by a slightly weird friend!
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Thing is, re: all 4 solo albums, that particular time is 'where the guys heads were at'. I much prefer Ace's & Paul's and Gene's is, interesting, with his Beatles influences coming to the fore, and Peter's shows his blues, big band & swing side. All 4 covers DO look cool mounted together on a wall, worth getting an extra set just to do that, like Kiss fans need an excuse :D . Whether recording the solo albums in the first place was a good or bad idea still divides opinion, but, yeh, Gene's has grown on me a bit, just a bit mind, over the years. (prob shoulda maybe just stuck to the last sentance :lol: )....
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This album, like no other KISS album, really takes me back to the 70's.
It has a special groove.
Really like it 8)
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I love Gene's album.
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I predict that in the year 2064 (please courteously inform if the math is off), that one or possibly two of you who are miraculously still alive (against all odds), will post, "Gee you know that Asshole kind of had one or two songs that sounded good"-maybe the aging process helps with these kinds of things. :roll:

I don't recall many of you writing I got blown away when I first heard Gene do "When You wish Upon A Star'" and wanted to hear that on the radio instead of "Running with The Devil"
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lespaul wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:53 am The Females ruined the album
That's a thing I love about the album.
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It's my favourite of the four solos. Late-70s American glam at its most overblown and egotistical.
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When I first got it in 78, I was quite surprised as didn't sound like Kiss. I thought it was too all over the place stylistically. I like some of it and would probably give it a 6/10. I find Ace's and Paul's albums much better. Peter's album has always been one that just don't need to hear again, love his drumming in Kiss though.
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Metalion_SOS wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:22 pm It's my favourite of the four solos. Late-70s American glam at its most overblown and egotistical.
It’s got nothing to do with glam.
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ypke wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:57 pm
lespaul wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:53 am The Females ruined the album
That's a thing I love about the album.
Although not the entire reason I love the album, I thought it added some fire to the songs. Love them on "Burning Up With Fever".
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Last time I listened to it, I really liked it. Having said that, there are some genuine WTF moments but you could argue they suit Gene's "grotesque personality" just fine. Strained overly dramatic falsetto yelping and a so-so sung Disney tune. Love the telephone part though!
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I've always loved Gene's solo album, and still do. It ranks as my second fave behind Paul's. I think the fact that it DOESN'T sound all "demonic" is what I like the most about it.
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Statuegirl21 wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:40 am
Metalion_SOS wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:22 pm It's my favourite of the four solos. Late-70s American glam at its most overblown and egotistical.
It’s got nothing to do with glam.
It's very similar to stuff like Robert Campbell, Lewis Furey, Jobriath and Sean Delaney's Highway - all pompous theatrical North American glam rock of the later 70s.
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Legsofsteel wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:44 am Never cared too much for this album with the exception of "See You Tonite".

However, really been appreciating it in the last few weeks. Showcases Gene's songwriting variety. Really love songs like "Man of 1000 Faces" and "Always Near You/Nowhere to Hide". Still don't care for the version of "See You In Your Dreams". It's a good song, but I prefer the RARO version.

I can understand the disappointment for many when it came out because it isn't a very demonic record with the exception of beginning of "Radioactive". But this album has a lot of good songs imo.
I love the whole thing... Radioactive, Living In Sin, See You Tonite, Always Near You..., Mr. Make Believe, True Confessions... all stellar. very little marginal stuff for me on the album. I also think When You Wish Upon a Star was ballsy as hell and think Gene should do it as an encore for the very last show... imagine the headfake... they bring out the stool... everyone thinks Peter's going to do Beth, and instead, Gene comes out, tossing roses during WYWUAStar! I'm serious!
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I love this album. I' rank it at #2 of the solo albums. I love how eclectic it is and I think Gene sounds very at home with everything on the record. I do remember being shocked by Gene's album when I first got it in '78. It was not the demonic hard rocker I was used to but I quickly got over it and really dug into the record. Incidentally, my copy had a really nasty warp across the outer edge. So bad that the tone arm would fly off the record when I tried to play it. :lol: I was a broke 10yr old, so I didn't get to actually hear Radioactive or Living In Sin until many years later.