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Countdown to the usual suspects chiming in about all the praise Tommy receives in this article. Ten, nine......
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Tommy’s golfing skills are underrated.
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"...Black ‘N Blue, a truly fantastic Rock outfit.."

Erm....
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Tommy Thayer’s Spaghetti Blues Band (with Special Guests “The Meatball Mafia”)
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This thread is meant as a joke right?
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With that kind of gushing praise, I hope he doesn't end up with a big head.
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I find Tommy to be an excellent rhythm guitarist. He shouldn't be, doesn't have to be, aggrandized or overrated to denote his ability. As a lead guitarist, he's nowhere on the same level as Bruce, but he is capable. He certainly reproduces Ace's leads well enough. Black N' Blue is pretty good, I don't mind listening to any of it. And I think he's a good collaborator. I've always liked Tommy.
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Glasgow Kiss wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:07 am With that kind of gushing praise, I hope he doesn't end up with a big head.
Seriously, with that kind of positive promotion Tommy will be raking it in for sure
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Glasgow Kiss wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:07 am With that kind of gushing praise, I hope he doesn't end up with a big head.

Too late for that…. :)
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Bruce wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:09 amAs a lead guitarist, he's nowhere on the same level as Bruce, but he is capable.
C’mon - I’d say he’s equally as boring as Bruce
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I think the only guitarist in Kiss who obviously had anything special was Ace. Bruce was pretty good. Vinnie and Mark were cookie-cutter, and Tommy, well, he's Tommy.
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I don't have strong feelings about Tommy one way or the other. I will say that I was impressed the first time I saw him with KISS as the band sounded so much tighter than they did with Ace. Ace will always be one of my favorite players but he was getting a little sloppy there. Tommy is precise, and tries to honor the source material.
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"Tommy Thayer’s Blues-based playing is bar none some of the most underrated of the last forty some odd years"

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That was actually a well-written, well thought out take on KISS' guitarists.
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redinthesky wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:19 am I think the only guitarist in Kiss who obviously had anything special was Ace. Bruce was pretty good. Vinnie and Mark were cookie-cutter, and Tommy, well, he's Tommy.
Vinnie wrote some great songs for the band and put some life into them, nothing cookie cutter about him. All the others that came after him, yes.
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Exact same order I'd rank them though depending on what I'm listening to I will swap Ace / Bruce
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TwistedTaste wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:23 am
redinthesky wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:19 am I think the only guitarist in Kiss who obviously had anything special was Ace. Bruce was pretty good. Vinnie and Mark were cookie-cutter, and Tommy, well, he's Tommy.
Vinnie wrote some great songs for the band and put some life into them, nothing cookie cutter about him. All the others that came after him, yes.
Vinnie is absolutely a cookie-cutter of childish, mindless cockrock and shredding that was in fashion for 2 years in the 80s.
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Well at least he got number 1 right....
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TwistedTaste wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:23 am
redinthesky wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:19 am I think the only guitarist in Kiss who obviously had anything special was Ace. Bruce was pretty good. Vinnie and Mark were cookie-cutter, and Tommy, well, he's Tommy.
Vinnie wrote some great songs for the band and put some life into them, nothing cookie cutter about him. All the others that came after him, yes.
I should have been specific as the article was about all the guitarist's playing, that's what I was referring to. Vinnie back then could co-write decent songs but his guitar playing when he let loose was dreadful IMO.
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Glasgow Kiss wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:07 am With that kind of gushing praise, I hope he doesn't end up with a big head.
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When I think of contemporary blues based players, I think of Samantha Fish, Joe Bonamassa, Larkin Poe, Ana Popovic.

Though I don't doubt Thomas can sure imitate some BB King Licks real well.
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Doose wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:40 am Vinnie is absolutely a cookie-cutter of childish, mindless cockrock and shredding that was in fashion for 2 years in the 80s.
Totally disagree. I think a lot of people's view of Vinnie as an individual clouds their judgement of him as a musician. Even in Kiss you can tell his rhythm playing a mile of and his lead work is even more distinctive.

VV Invasion don't really sound like any of their contemporaries and his songwriting ability far exceeds most of his peers.

Ace and Vinnie are the only two Kiss guitarists with an air of uniqueness and obvious star quality about them.

As for Tommy, he's a fine rhythm guitar player but his lead work isn't great, even when just having to copy Ace's fairly basic solos.
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I don't even understand what he's talking about with Tommy.
I have to listen again to the albums he did before Kiss.
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The author of the article lost me when he wrote: "To begin, I am a huge fan of Tommy Thayer as a guitarist..." All objectivity flew right out the window.
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Have they heard Eric Gales? No there is an underrated blues guitarist.
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Doose wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:08 am That was actually a well-written, well thought out take on KISS' guitarists.
Disagree. Besides the fact the author apparently doesn't know how to break large paragraphs into smaller digestible material for readers, the article lacked objectivity. It was almost as though the author felt obligated to say nice things about the guitarists he interviewed.
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My order would be Ace, Bruce, Vinnie, Tommy and Mark. Sorry, but I cannot put Tommy ahead of Vinnie because I don't see much originality in Tommy's playing. Maybe if he made the solos more of his own, I might rank him higher, but I just can't given the circumstances.
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Glasgow Kiss wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:07 am With that kind of gushing praise, I hope he doesn't end up with a big head.

He heaped the OTT praise onto Frehley too, but nobody seems to be objecting to that. :lol:
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Doose wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:40 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:23 am
redinthesky wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:19 am I think the only guitarist in Kiss who obviously had anything special was Ace. Bruce was pretty good. Vinnie and Mark were cookie-cutter, and Tommy, well, he's Tommy.
Vinnie wrote some great songs for the band and put some life into them, nothing cookie cutter about him. All the others that came after him, yes.
Vinnie is absolutely a cookie-cutter of childish, mindless cockrock and shredding that was in fashion for 2 years in the 80s.
Paul & Gene would have disappeared into oblivion in 82 without him

Childish? You’re talking about Kiss here, right?
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jannep17 wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:08 am I don't even understand what he's talking about with Tommy.
I have to listen again to the albums he did before Kiss.
Ace is a blues based guitar player. Hence - so is Tommy :D
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TheSpoiler wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:49 am
Glasgow Kiss wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:07 am With that kind of gushing praise, I hope he doesn't end up with a big head.

He heaped the OTT praise onto Frehley too, but nobody seems to be objecting to that. :lol:
I wonder why that is? :roll: :lol:
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TwistedTaste wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:55 am
Doose wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:40 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:23 am
redinthesky wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:19 am I think the only guitarist in Kiss who obviously had anything special was Ace. Bruce was pretty good. Vinnie and Mark were cookie-cutter, and Tommy, well, he's Tommy.
Vinnie wrote some great songs for the band and put some life into them, nothing cookie cutter about him. All the others that came after him, yes.
Vinnie is absolutely a cookie-cutter of childish, mindless cockrock and shredding that was in fashion for 2 years in the 80s.
Paul & Gene would have disappeared into oblivion in 82 without him

Childish? You’re talking about Kiss here, right?
Funny you say Gene and Paul "would have disappeared into oblivion" when they created one of the biggest bands in the world, they're the ones that sold millions of albums, they're the ones that did sold-out tours around the world...All before they even knew who Vinnie Cusano was. After Vinnie Cusano, they went on to do all of those things and more for another 40 years.

Meanwhile, speaking of oblivion, how has Vinnie's career gone for the last 40 years? How about the 10 years before KISS?
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TwistedTaste wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:55 am
Doose wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:40 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:23 am
redinthesky wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:19 am I think the only guitarist in Kiss who obviously had anything special was Ace. Bruce was pretty good. Vinnie and Mark were cookie-cutter, and Tommy, well, he's Tommy.
Vinnie wrote some great songs for the band and put some life into them, nothing cookie cutter about him. All the others that came after him, yes.
Vinnie is absolutely a cookie-cutter of childish, mindless cockrock and shredding that was in fashion for 2 years in the 80s.
Paul & Gene would have disappeared into oblivion in 82 without him
Considering what a flop the Creatures album was (initially), and what a flop the Creatures tour was, they seemed to be disappearing into oblivion with him. But Gene and Paul always find a way to bounce back.
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Doose wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:01 amwhen they created one of the biggest bands in the world
:lol:

I don’t think so
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Why isn't Paul considered a "guitarist"?
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redinthesky wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:08 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:55 am
Doose wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:40 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:23 am

Vinnie wrote some great songs for the band and put some life into them, nothing cookie cutter about him. All the others that came after him, yes.
Vinnie is absolutely a cookie-cutter of childish, mindless cockrock and shredding that was in fashion for 2 years in the 80s.
Paul & Gene would have disappeared into oblivion in 82 without him
Considering what a flop the Creatures album was (initially), and what a flop the Creatures tour was, they seemed to be disappearing into oblivion with him. But Gene and Paul always find a way to bounce back.
Vinnie wrote I love it loud and lick it up. Case closed.
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TwistedTaste wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:15 am
redinthesky wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:08 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:55 am
Doose wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:40 am

Vinnie is absolutely a cookie-cutter of childish, mindless cockrock and shredding that was in fashion for 2 years in the 80s.
Paul & Gene would have disappeared into oblivion in 82 without him
Considering what a flop the Creatures album was (initially), and what a flop the Creatures tour was, they seemed to be disappearing into oblivion with him. But Gene and Paul always find a way to bounce back.
Vinnie wrote I love it loud and lick it up. Case closed.
Co-wrote. And yep, facts are facts, so yes case closed. And that's all for me and this silly Vinnie bickering, wasted too much time with it before. But you know that, right? :bom:
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TheSpoiler wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:49 am
Glasgow Kiss wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:07 am With that kind of gushing praise, I hope he doesn't end up with a big head.

He heaped the OTT praise onto Frehley too, but nobody seems to be objecting to that. :lol:
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Bruce wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:09 am I find Tommy to be an excellent rhythm guitarist. He shouldn't be, doesn't have to be, aggrandized or overrated to denote his ability. As a lead guitarist, he's nowhere on the same level as Bruce, but he is capable. He certainly reproduces Ace's leads well enough. Black N' Blue is pretty good, I don't mind listening to any of it. And I think he's a good collaborator. I've always liked Tommy.
I'd agree with that about 98%. For me, there are only a half dozen or so Black 'N' Blue songs that I like, but I agree with the rest of it 100%.
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TwistedTaste wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:18 am C’mon - I’d say he’s equally as boring as Bruce
That is exactly the kind of post which could threaten this venerable forum with an erroneous reputation for being a cesspool--!!
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Paul should be ranked.
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Somebody Backstage wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:10 am Why isn't Paul considered a "guitarist"?
Do u not understand the difference between lead and rhythm?

If not watch the guitar solo by Paul from Animalize live
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Lofton23rdSt wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:48 pm Paul should be ranked.
He doesn’t qualify
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Bruce wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:15 am
TwistedTaste wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:18 am C’mon - I’d say he’s equally as boring as Bruce
That is exactly the kind of post which could threaten this venerable forum with an erroneous reputation for being a cesspool--!!
It was a joke -but it went over your 7’0” head :D