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Take what you will from it.

Off the Toucher and Rich radio show this morning.

Around the 27:00 mark.

https://985thesportshub.com/episodes/fl ... 18-hour-2/
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Somehow I doubt he would have just announced the Alice tour if a return to Kiss was in the works.
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nibbler1982 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:14 am Take what you will from it.

Off the Toucher and Rich radio show this morning.

Around the 27:00 mark.

https://985thesportshub.com/episodes/fl ... 18-hour-2/

It would be nice if Ace and Peter rejoined for at least 10 shows towards the end.

I don't think there's anyway KISS could have played Citi Field next month unless alot of it was papered. Since they've been off the road 18 months or so and won't finish up for at least another year, they'll have a better shot at it. And depending on where you set up the stage and other things, Citi Field could be 20,000 or it could be 40,000. Alot of ways to play with it.
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Toucher and Rich are the morning hosts on a sports show in Boston. Who knows who their contacts in the industry are. If he does come back it won’t be for this next leg.
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nibbler1982 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:14 am Take what you will from it.

Off the Toucher and Rich radio show this morning.

Around the 27:00 mark.

https://985thesportshub.com/episodes/fl ... 18-hour-2/
Thanks for sharing, Nibbs. I listened and the KISS discussion didn't kick in until around the 29:00 minute mark. It goes on for 10 minutes and is worth the listen as these two DJ's relentlessly make fun of Gene, Paul, Tommy, the books the band has written, Family Jewels, and the VIP concert experience package. They are clearly fans having some good fun at the band's expense. The mention of Ace coming back happens at 34:10, but they both say it's a rumor they heard with nothing to back it up.

I like how their website refers to the "End of the World" tour. :lol:
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God I hope so

But I wouldn't bet on it
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Ace keeps playing that card... Ace up his sleeve.
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Well. The latest release has Ace in the lineup. And there have been a few Paul quotes circulating about how Ace enjoyed playing with Eric.
I can see how people on the periphery might think Ace is back or maybe coming back.
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It will happen because a. Gene and Paul and never leave money on the table and b. Ace has made it clear he is willing. They're just going to make sure that they eek out as much as they can with this line-up, and once they have, they'll play their 'Ace in the hole' final leg with Ace.
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StraightThruTheHeart wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:44 am It will happen because a. Gene and Paul and never leave money on the table and b. Ace has made it clear he is willing. They're just going to make sure that they eek out as much as they can with this line-up, and once they have, they'll play their 'Ace in the hole' final leg with Ace.
This is sort of my thinking too.

But no Peter. One, I don't think Gigi would even make it remotely possible to negotiate properly, and Two, Peter is just too old to perform a KISS show anymore. He was complaining at 50 he couldn't perform.
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I hope so it would make Kiss more exciting!
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:peter: ^^^ How do you know Peter even WANTS to do it^^^
I think he's had enough of the bullshit and he's happy, which God knows nobody else seems to be.....
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StraightThruTheHeart wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:44 am It will happen because a. Gene and Paul and never leave money on the table and b. Ace has made it clear he is willing. They're just going to make sure that they eek out as much as they can with this line-up, and once they have, they'll play their 'Ace in the hole' final leg with Ace.
Anyone who thinks Ace will never play with Kiss again doesn't know anything about Kiss. There's no way in heck that G&P would never play the "Ace" card. Absolutely no way. And they won't waste Ace as a "freebie" having Ace simply guest during a show (unless it's to get the fire burning for his return). Only questions are when and how.
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redinthesky wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:02 pm
StraightThruTheHeart wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:44 am It will happen because a. Gene and Paul and never leave money on the table and b. Ace has made it clear he is willing. They're just going to make sure that they eek out as much as they can with this line-up, and once they have, they'll play their 'Ace in the hole' final leg with Ace.
Anyone who thinks Ace will never play with Kiss again doesn't know anything about Kiss. There's no way in heck that G&P would never play the "Ace" card. Absolutely no way.
Never gonna happen. I'll give you one million dollars if it happens.

And by that I mean Ace as a member of Kiss. Not some stupid guest spot during one or two or five concerts.
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jannep17 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:07 pm
redinthesky wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:02 pm
StraightThruTheHeart wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:44 am It will happen because a. Gene and Paul and never leave money on the table and b. Ace has made it clear he is willing. They're just going to make sure that they eek out as much as they can with this line-up, and once they have, they'll play their 'Ace in the hole' final leg with Ace.
Anyone who thinks Ace will never play with Kiss again doesn't know anything about Kiss. There's no way in heck that G&P would never play the "Ace" card. Absolutely no way.
Never gonna happen. I'll give you one million dollars if it happens.

And by that I mean Ace as a member of Kiss. Not some stupid guest spot during one or two or five concerts.
I prefer half in twenties, half in fifties :)

But yes I can definitely see how some can be skeptical. But I do really believe that G&P will want to rake in the extra millions even a handful of shows with Ace would bring, attracting all the people back who won't see 2/2 originals Kiss, but would definitely see 3/1 originals Kiss especially if the entire front line are originals. But we shall see, either way 2022 is gonna be very interesting.
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EasyCatMan wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:33 am
nibbler1982 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:14 am Take what you will from it.

Off the Toucher and Rich radio show this morning.

Around the 27:00 mark.

https://985thesportshub.com/episodes/fl ... 18-hour-2/


I don't think there's anyway KISS could have played Citi Field next month unless alot of it was papered.
Hmmn, there used to be another member that got KICKED off of here a couple of years ago that like to use the word "papered". He also claimed to be some movie mogul and producer. New member here too? Coincidence?
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I would love it if Ace cane back, but I still don't see it happening. I mean I don't see Ace coming out on stage with Tommy in his makeup and costume unless the band sends Tommy off-stage for a couple of songs (and I don't see that happening.)

I think this is just a ploy to where they can say, "Well, look, we said we wanted Ace to come back but he didn't want to, so don't be mad at me."
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Ace isn't consistent enough.
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Would they be able to use the smoothing pedal if Ace is back?
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I'd be really surprised if this happens. I can definitely see them wanting him for a few songs on a few dates toward the end of the tour, but full time? I just don't think so. They've made too much of a point to push the current line-up.
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redinthesky wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:36 pm
jannep17 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:07 pm
redinthesky wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:02 pm
StraightThruTheHeart wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:44 am It will happen because a. Gene and Paul and never leave money on the table and b. Ace has made it clear he is willing. They're just going to make sure that they eek out as much as they can with this line-up, and once they have, they'll play their 'Ace in the hole' final leg with Ace.
Anyone who thinks Ace will never play with Kiss again doesn't know anything about Kiss. There's no way in heck that G&P would never play the "Ace" card. Absolutely no way.
Never gonna happen. I'll give you one million dollars if it happens.

And by that I mean Ace as a member of Kiss. Not some stupid guest spot during one or two or five concerts.
I prefer half in twenties, half in fifties :)

But yes I can definitely see how some can be skeptical. But I do really believe that G&P will want to rake in the extra millions even a handful of shows with Ace would bring, attracting all the people back who won't see 2/2 originals Kiss, but would definitely see 3/1 originals Kiss especially if the entire front line are originals. But we shall see, either way 2022 is gonna be very interesting.
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Keep dreaming. Guest spot for one show? MAYBE. Forget Peter altogether. If he's smart. If Ace was smart he'd forget it too. After all the trash talking Paul and Gene does I'd tell them to go "F" themselves at this point.
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This can only mean one thing.
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Not enough money to be had to add him back in the mix in my opinion. They can Gross 800k a show now does it really make that much of a difference adding him back except for maybe a thousand fans per market?
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I don't see it happening. I think Gene and Paul are happy with ticket sales and will not wanna give up a dime more. They will finish their career with Thayer and Singer in the band.
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Honestly, I don't even want to see him back in the band.
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acefan1975 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:47 pm Not enough money to be had to add him back in the mix in my opinion. They can Gross 800k a show now does it really make that much of a difference adding him back except for maybe a thousand fans per market?
It would mean they could end on somewhat more of an upswing. I’m not talking monetarily.
Like they would finish up with a little integrity and not as a quasi tribute band.

Mind you - I still wouldn’t go as I refuse to pay for a lip synching act. Music is a sacred thing to me and that’s blasphemous imo
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I didn't listen, but my guess is the "rumor" was probably the news from A few weeks back that they would welcome him to make an appearance
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The hosts only said it for a few seconds. They don't have insider info.
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As much as I want Ace and Peter back, not gonna happen. Not like that.
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jannep17 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:58 pm
redinthesky wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:36 pm
jannep17 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:07 pm
redinthesky wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:02 pm

Anyone who thinks Ace will never play with Kiss again doesn't know anything about Kiss. There's no way in heck that G&P would never play the "Ace" card. Absolutely no way.
Never gonna happen. I'll give you one million dollars if it happens.

And by that I mean Ace as a member of Kiss. Not some stupid guest spot during one or two or five concerts.
I prefer half in twenties, half in fifties :)

But yes I can definitely see how some can be skeptical. But I do really believe that G&P will want to rake in the extra millions even a handful of shows with Ace would bring, attracting all the people back who won't see 2/2 originals Kiss, but would definitely see 3/1 originals Kiss especially if the entire front line are originals. But we shall see, either way 2022 is gonna be very interesting.
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Potato Salad wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:32 pm This can only mean one thing.
There it is. lol
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Can't believe I wasted 15 seconds listening to that.

Is he going to play defense for the Bruins or what?
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EasyCatMan wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:33 am
nibbler1982 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:14 am Take what you will from it.

Off the Toucher and Rich radio show this morning.

Around the 27:00 mark.

https://985thesportshub.com/episodes/fl ... 18-hour-2/

It would be nice if Ace and Peter rejoined for at least 10 shows towards the end.

I don't think there's anyway KISS could have played Citi Field next month unless alot of it was papered. Since they've been off the road 18 months or so and won't finish up for at least another year, they'll have a better shot at it. And depending on where you set up the stage and other things, Citi Field could be 20,000 or it could be 40,000. Alot of ways to play with it.
I would pay to see them if that happened.
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This talk about Ace rejoining must first pass muster with car wash guy.
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EasyCatMan wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:33 am
nibbler1982 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:14 am Take what you will from it.

Off the Toucher and Rich radio show this morning.

Around the 27:00 mark.

https://985thesportshub.com/episodes/fl ... 18-hour-2/

It would be nice if Ace and Peter rejoined for at least 10 shows towards the end.

I don't think there's anyway KISS could have played Citi Field next month unless alot of it was papered. Since they've been off the road 18 months or so and won't finish up for at least another year, they'll have a better shot at it. And depending on where you set up the stage and other things, Citi Field could be 20,000 or it could be 40,000. Alot of ways to play with it.
At 109 million so far on the EOTR tour , I don't think its an issue.
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There ya have it. Story broken on a Boston Sports Radio call-in show. That my friends, is how you leak a major music/entertainment announcement.
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TwistedTaste wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:18 am God I hope not
I'm with you.
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Oct 9th, Tampa FL KISS
Oct 11th, Tampa FL Alice Cooper and Ace.

So within 2 days of each other KISS and Ace will be playing the same venue.
Might be as close as we get.
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Ace isn‘t boring enough to be in kiss nowadays------
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Thankfully, Tommy's not going anywhere. Sorry, Ace ... lost your opportunity!! Seeing Ace and Bruce during the last show(s) could prove interesting. And when Vinnie steps out onstage, ankh and all ... my mind will be blown!!
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If he really finally join the band (for 20 minutes on stage for 1 show) those who have claimed since 2006 that he is coming back will be like "I told you so!" :lol: :lol:
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spacecat2500 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:57 am Well. The latest release has Ace in the lineup. And there have been a few Paul quotes circulating about how Ace enjoyed playing with Eric.
I can see how people on the periphery might think Ace is back or maybe coming back.
Could this be why KISS released the 2001 Off the Soundboard show.
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Please no.
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This was just a couple of idiot disc jockeys babbling with no insider info about anything.

Sure, it'd be cool to see Ace back for a minute or two, but ... is his presence going to enable Paul to sing again? For the band to mix up the set at all? For Eric Singer not to look idiotic in that cat makeup? And, to be fair, is the makeup going to enable Ace to play like he once did again? I'll stick to the memories at this point. Will definitely crack a smile if it happens, but it won't be worth partying like it's 1996.
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CStomp1 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:43 am
nibbler1982 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:14 am Take what you will from it.

Off the Toucher and Rich radio show this morning.

Around the 27:00 mark.

https://985thesportshub.com/episodes/fl ... 18-hour-2/
Thanks for sharing, Nibbs. I listened and the KISS discussion didn't kick in until around the 29:00 minute mark. It goes on for 10 minutes and is worth the listen as these two DJ's relentlessly make fun of Gene, Paul, Tommy, the books the band has written, Family Jewels, and the VIP concert experience package. They are clearly fans having some good fun at the band's expense. The mention of Ace coming back happens at 34:10, but they both say it's a rumor they heard with nothing to back it up.

I like how their website refers to the "End of the World" tour. :lol:
How can it be a rumor ? People on this very board, who are in the know, have said Ace will be back in kiss for years now. :D