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Which drum solo in their heyday impressed you the most? Two different styles of playing, but to those who saw the band in the seventies and in the eighties. The lasting impression. I saw neither, but Peter's 1976 drum solo still blows my mind. Thank goodness for youtube and Kissology's!
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100000 years solo is the ONLY drum solo in a rock environment I still listen to with gusto.
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Absolutely Eric. I particularly love the one on Animalize Live Uncensored.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't both basically play the same solos over the Kiss years? Eric using samples in 1990 to change things up
I guess Peter just got bored by 1978-79.
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criss75 wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:41 am Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't both basically play the same solos over the Kiss years? Eric using samples in 1990 to change things up
I guess Peter just got bored by 1978-79.
I think the samples (via the electric drum pads) came into the picture a little earlier than that. Asylum tour, if I'm not mistaken.
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Eric Carr's solos for me.

There were similarities and reference points between Carr and Criss' solo, but Carr took things a lot further with his double kick work and more complex fills.

Criss' solos were based pretty much entirely around triplets but were still memorable.

Regarding electric drums, Criss actually used them on the Dynasty tour. Syndrums, IIRC. Sounded dreadful. :lol:
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Peter had some really good solos Carr had some great ones with his own touch
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Peter because he viewed the drums as a musical instrument and not just rhythm.
If you pay close attention to the solo on Alive you can bear that the drums are tuned to scale.
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I did not see the HITS tour but that drum solo on Kissology 2 didn't impress me. But I shut my mouth when I saw the Live uncencored video back in the day.
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Peter. Unpopular opinion: Also liked some of his solos when he returned to the band a second time
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I thought Eric’s solo on animalize uncensored was pretty solid. They’re was a real good flow to it, unlike his solo from HITS detroit ‘90. It seemed like he was just wingin it upon first impression. I have the 84 animalize solo burnt into my brain like a song.

Peter was decent back in the day. Basically just a bunch of triplets playing around the kit. The flanger effect makes it sound a lot more interesting than it really is.
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thunderballs wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:05 am Peter because he viewed the drums as a musical instrument and not just rhythm.
If you pay close attention to the solo on Alive you can bear that the drums are tuned to scale.
Pretty solid drum tech he had I guess.
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I only saw Peter in the 70's in 1979, and I don't remember the solo, so I can only go by what I have seen and heard on records and in live videos. I saw KISS throughout the 80's and I felt that Eric's solos were basically the same every tour. Broken down into segments, the inevitable double-bass thing and then he gradually slowed it down to a crawl, seeming to run out of steam, then he picked it back up again. I have to say I prefer Peter's more fluid, non-stop solos from 74-76.
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I love Peter but he should have stopped the solos after 75
Every year after his solos got worse and worse
79’s solo was deplorable, it sounded like a bad video game with all those effects
I liked Carr’s solos until the electronic bullshit started
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Drum solos are always, without any exception (hold the Neil Peart videos), horrible and meaningless.

I love good drum playing, but play for the song.
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I liked em both for different reasons. Both cheated a little, Peter with a phaser, Eric with notepads. Peter's solos were a little out of place sometimes, if I'd first hear him I would never guess he's soloing at a hard rock show.
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Duplicate post...sorry.
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Peter.
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Peter.

Eric abused the double-bass drum to make it seem like he was playing far more complicated stuff than he actually was.
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Eric’s Crazy Nights solo will always be my favorite. And I’ve always liked the end of the Alive II solo, but 100,000 years is hard to beat.
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Skills wise, Eric Carr had the best drum solo’s in KISStory. He created solo’s that would build and evolve throughout. They had a beginning, middle and end. They were his Moby Dick if you like. As a drummer, if I ever have to incorporate a drum solo to a show I’m stealing little things from Eric Carr. And that 1988 era solo with the drum pads was a work of art. Incredibly creative and skilful.

Having said that, Peter’s Solo spots were good because they were often part of the show and were less “Hey look at me!” which I liked. I love a good show off solo where you are blown away by a drummers ability, speed and precision, but I don’t think you need that with a band like KISS. Peter for the most part was more about enhancing the show than trying to make himself look good.

I rate Eric Singer as the best drummer of the 3, but he has never really been the master of creating a drum solo. He’s said many times that it’s not his thing and I respect that. If you’ve watched enough YouTube clips of Eric live you’d notice he rarely plays the same solo twice. Major props for winging it on the spot and still delivering a quality piece.
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I vote for Peter
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Peter Criss on the drums. Never was a fan of Eric Carr’s drumming.
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criss75 wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:41 am Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't both basically play the same solos over the Kiss years? Eric using samples in 1990 to change things up
Yes, and correct ME if I am wrong .... but I thought this was industry standard? First - so that you deliver a uniformed performance every night, and if there’s a night where you’re off your game, not feeling well, you name it.... you’re not out there bumbling and stuttering you’re way through the solo. Plus it also allows them to incorporate and use certain passages and pieces from their earlier career work that fans recognize. Thereby becoming your “calling card” if you will.
Also, for the big modern productions, the other band members and supporting crew knows what to expect and when.

But I agree, they too become predictable after a few tours.
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I'm like Ringo, not a fan of drum solos (and I was a drummer decades ago). I find them boring as hell. I find guitar solos boring too. They're a waste of time. They both had decent solos, Eric's was more creative IMHO.
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Peter's 100,000 years solo is the one that takes it for me
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