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Balance. WTF

Post by RoomService » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:46 am

So I picked up a copy of the 1981 album by Balance for my Kiss-related collection. Just getting around to listening to it. I’m still on side A, but man this is bad. This is on par with 80’s Starship. These guys might be accomplished studio pros, but this is just a steaming pile.

Update. Fly Through the Night has some redeeming qualities. I can hear Kiss/Paul doing this one.

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Re: Balance. WTF

Post by Eddie Van Hazel » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:52 am

They reunited a few years ago. There's some clips on YT.

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Post by Yiggity » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:53 am

Do the guitars sound like the best Ace ever played?

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Re: Balance. WTF

Post by The doctor » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:54 am

RoomService wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:46 am
So I picked up a copy of the 1981 album by Balance for my Kiss-related collection. Just getting around to listening to it. I’m still on side A, but man this is bad. This is on par with 80’s Starship. These guys might be accomplished studio pros, but this is just a steaming pile.

Update. Fly Through the Night has some redeeming qualities. I can hear Kiss/Paul doing this one.
Yeah, yeah sure Ted.

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Re: Balance. WTF

Post by ypke » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:01 am

I wanted to say that it wasn't that bad at all, but I realized I mixed up Balance with Blackjack... The latter is a pretty good album. And while I'm at it: Everbody's Crazy by Michael Bolton is an awesome album. There's something in the sound of that record that reminds me of Kiss and it's not just Bruce Kulick's playing. It's worth checking out IMO.

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Post by GermanKissFan » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:16 am

Could it be that you guys are just not much into AOR? Balance's album are regarded as real classics of the genre... Hidden gems - of course - too, since nobody bought them.

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Post by Allamericanman » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:24 pm

I thought this would be an Ace thread, as in "notoriously bad".

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Post by ypke » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:49 pm

To be honest, I can't remember how Balance sounds, but I do have an album by them...

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Re: Balance. WTF

Post by jestor92 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:46 pm

What’s Balance?

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Post by ManOf1000Faces » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:30 pm

The Balance album is solid, imho. I'm not surprised that it wasn't more popular. Bargain bins are full of albums that sound great. Few people probably wanted a Balance poster for their wall.

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Post by LoveGun77 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:23 pm

I never get "Kiss related" stuff. Just because it's related doesn't translate to "good". I never even got Peter or Bruce's solo stuff because I don't care for them on their own. That's just me. I usually stick with the band. I didn't buy "Asshole" or "Live to Win" now that I think of it!

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Post by redinthesky » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:39 pm

LoveGun77 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:23 pm
I never get "Kiss related" stuff. Just because it's related doesn't translate to "good". I never even got Peter or Bruce's solo stuff because I don't care for them on their own. That's just me. I usually stick with the band. I didn't buy "Asshole" or "Live to Win" now that I think of it!
Truth. IMO, while there's a few (emphasis on "few") things I like, very little "Kiss related" stuff is worth listening to. (I did love "Live To Win" though.)

(I'm not including the '78 solo albums, all of which I love, except Gene's.)

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Post by Mad Dog » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:22 pm

Both Balance albums are great, topnotch AOR albums.

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Re: Balance. WTF

Post by Mad Dog » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:25 pm

LoveGun77 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:23 pm
I never get "Kiss related" stuff. Just because it's related doesn't translate to "good". I never even got Peter or Bruce's solo stuff because I don't care for them on their own. That's just me. I usually stick with the band. I didn't buy "Asshole" or "Live to Win" now that I think of it!
I own all KISS related material, except most of the Tribute albums with Eric and Bruce from the 90's early 2000"s. But that just me! :D

Even go so far to have all albums from related musicians from Criss, Frehley's Comet, VVI, White Tiger and Union.

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Post by 69th_B1izard » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:25 pm

jestor92 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:46 pm
What’s Balance?
It’s something that Ace does not have. :)

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Re: Balance. WTF

Post by His Majesty » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:38 pm

I'm not gonna lie.

I have the song Breaking Away on my phone.

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Re: Balance. WTF

Post by LoveGun77 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:51 pm

Mad Dog wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:25 pm
LoveGun77 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:23 pm
I never get "Kiss related" stuff. Just because it's related doesn't translate to "good". I never even got Peter or Bruce's solo stuff because I don't care for them on their own. That's just me. I usually stick with the band. I didn't buy "Asshole" or "Live to Win" now that I think of it!
I own all KISS related material, except most of the Tribute albums with Eric and Bruce from the 90's early 2000"s. But that just me! :D

Even go so far to have all albums from related musicians from Criss, Frehley's Comet, VVI, White Tiger and Union.
And that's great....nothing wrong with that!

Now if I heard something KISS related and liked it,great! I would get it...but NOT because it was related to the band.

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Post by Nately120 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:00 pm

I recognize the bass player, John Siegler, mostly from the new wave-ey Hall & Oates albums but apparently he played with Dan Hartman and Todd Rundgren. Neato. I'll give this a listen.

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Post by rscott71 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:25 pm

I like 80's Starship

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Re: Balance. WTF

Post by RoomService » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:58 pm

I realize this album wasn’t created for Kiss fans, and I actually do like a lot of 70s and 80s AOR. But this album, for me, is among of the worst of the worst. I wanted to like it, and I’m a big fan of Bob’s work on Alive II and especially Paul’s 78 solo album. But this is beyond disappointing. Talented musicians, the pedigree is there, but the sum is less than the parts.

Next stop, Michael Bolotin with Bruce. And I need to pick up that Blackjack LP.

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