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Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by badmachineogm » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:34 am

Another Saturday night, another KISS tribute band. Another Spaceman that absolutely smokes the original. Craig Jahns of KISSM evoked the tremulous power and tone of Ace like none other I’ve seen - including Frehley, himself, in recent decades. Practice, Ace. Practice and rehearse. It does a body good. It does an audience even better.
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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by Seanjc » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:02 am

The next spaceman for KISS 2.0?

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by dvader » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:10 am

Never heard about them, but out of curiosity I checked one of their videos on youtube, it was refreshing to hear the Shock me solo played note by note

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I8ngLeGYKA

I would definitely love to hear him playing some stuff out of Ace 78 solo record, such as snowblind or speedin' back...
It's a pity Ace can't handle his won material

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by GACatmandu » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:38 am

I clicked on the youtube link and tried to listen to the song, but they suck. He is not better than Ace sorry.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by Nellcote71 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:46 am

Too sober looking

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by Hi I'm Witz » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:02 am

He looks like he's paying tribute to Tommy Thayer paying tribute to Ace.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by So Cruel » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 am

Is this is a joke? There’s probably a 1000 guys in their basement or a bar who can play better then Ace now, and a 1000 more who can play better then Keith Richards now, and same goes for a whole lotta other musicians, but who cares? No one pays to see a nobody who’s never created anything over the star who wrote/played on all those great songs.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by Man of a Thousand Aces » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:35 am

Silly comparison. Most KISS tributes suck, musically speaking, so singling out one as an "example" to Ace is just silly.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by RisingForce » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:42 am

Funny. Is the singer of this tribute band stunning proof as to why Paul shouldn't be allowed near a stage anymore either?

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by SaintN'Sinner83 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:44 am

I've seen 8 year olds nail Van Halen's "Eruption" on YouTube faster than current Eddie Van Halen.

Should we boot him out of the band next time Van Halen wants to do something and hire the 8 year old?

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by mybliesad » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:07 am

I don't know what you're on about. This isn't proof Ace shouldn't play anymore. It might be proof this guy should stop copying Tommy copying Ace.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by Wally Swift » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:32 am

Fat Paul, midget Gene.....WTF?

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by Dr Borgo » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:41 am

So Cruel wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 am
Is this is a joke? There’s probably a 1000 guys in their basement or a bar who can play better then Ace now, and a 1000 more who can play better then Keith Richards now, and same goes for a whole lotta other musicians, but who cares? No one pays to see a nobody who’s never created anything over the star who wrote/played on all those great songs.
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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by AceyAintInCharge » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:28 pm

So Cruel wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 am
Is this is a joke? There’s probably a 1000 guys in their basement or a bar who can play better then Ace now, and a 1000 more who can play better then Keith Richards now, and same goes for a whole lotta other musicians, but who cares? No one pays to see a nobody who’s never created anything over the star who wrote/played on all those great songs.
I was gonna type my own post but then there is this post that stole all of my words verbatim.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by lespaul » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:32 pm

never seen any kiss tribute bands get Peter`s drumming style right..none ...

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by Thunderous_Lay » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:41 pm

Disclaimer: I used to play bass guitar when I was younger and even though I'd use a pick on occasion, I much prefered playing with my fingers.

The above aside, if you wanna join or play in a KISS tribute band, do learn how to use a pick.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by ACESTATION » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:59 pm

Just go to the 1:55 mark.
He nails it better than ACE did in 1977 but he had some time to learn of course. ha
I think this guy will be in KISS 2.0

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by Tommyr » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:16 pm

GACatmandu wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:38 am
I clicked on the youtube link and tried to listen to the song, but they suck. He is not better than Ace sorry.
His lead was pretty spot on but the rest of the band is meh.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by Mahatma » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:54 pm

So Cruel wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 am
Is this is a joke? There’s probably a 1000 guys in their basement or a bar who can play better then Ace now, and a 1000 more who can play better then Keith Richards now, and same goes for a whole lotta other musicians, but who cares? No one pays to see a nobody who’s never created anything over the star who wrote/played on all those great songs.
Exactly, this should be very clear to anyone with half a brain.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by Avidfan » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:26 pm

Thunderous_Lay wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:41 pm
The above aside, if you wanna join or play in a KISS tribute band, do learn how to use a pick.
*ugh* This. And if the Paul can wear a wicked wig, the Gene should too.
Ace was great though

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by Planet Caravan » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:09 pm

This thread is more "stunning proof" that Tommy should be fired immediately and this guy hired. He smokes Tommy.

I mean its all about the makeup & characters right? The players don't matter, right?

Fire Tommy IMMEDIATELY and hire this dude.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by PterCriss » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:25 pm

AceyAintInCharge wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:28 pm
So Cruel wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 am
Is this is a joke? There’s probably a 1000 guys in their basement or a bar who can play better then Ace now, and a 1000 more who can play better then Keith Richards now, and same goes for a whole lotta other musicians, but who cares? No one pays to see a nobody who’s never created anything over the star who wrote/played on all those great songs.
I was gonna type my own post but then there is this post that stole all of my words verbatim.
Stealing post and credit again I see.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by PterCriss » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:26 pm

This guy doesn't have to moves like Ace did and he doesn't look confident. Tommy doesn't look that bad compared to this Ace.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by AceyAintInCharge » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:24 pm

PterCriss wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:25 pm
AceyAintInCharge wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:28 pm
So Cruel wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 am
Is this is a joke? There’s probably a 1000 guys in their basement or a bar who can play better then Ace now, and a 1000 more who can play better then Keith Richards now, and same goes for a whole lotta other musicians, but who cares? No one pays to see a nobody who’s never created anything over the star who wrote/played on all those great songs.
I was gonna type my own post but then there is this post that stole all of my words verbatim.
Stealing post and credit again I see.
Displaying once again that you have no comprehension of humor or sarcasm.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by stutterer » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:55 pm

He bears a strong resemblance to Tommy Thayer. Facially. Bodily he's like Ace.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by badmachineogm » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:37 pm

So Cruel wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 am
Is this is a joke? There’s probably a 1000 guys in their basement or a bar who can play better then Ace now, and a 1000 more who can play better then Keith Richards now, and same goes for a whole lotta other musicians, but who cares? No one pays to see a nobody who’s never created anything over the star who wrote/played on all those great songs.
You win, So Cruel! (And here people were getting ready to start calling you So Stupid. But I told them to be patient with you. “He’s one of them remedials,” I said.)

So many jokes in this post. Where to begin? Ah, yes:

1. “Stunning proof,” ‘cause, you know, words like that are like steak thrown to a wolverine for your sort. You’ll jump onto any steaming pile of fairy floss as long as it’s offered as evidence to some Krazed KISS Konspiracy or point of view.

2. OK There’s no denying that Fake Ace here is doing a damn good job at replicating vintage Spaceman riffage. But as you so forcefully pointed out - honestly, So Cruel, that roughshod manner of yours is such a turn on! - there are hundreds, thousands and possibly a gazillion more guitarists that can play so convincingly Acey. Which makes it such a terrible irony that the real deal, himself, can’t. Which brings us to the biggest joke of them all...

3. ...that you and other dreamers on this board actually believe that pulling that carcass onto a stage and squeezing him into his space jammies would make for an improved and more authentic KISS-like experience, because he was - like - there first! As PT Barnum once said, “There’s one like you born every minute....”

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by PterCriss » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:58 pm

AceyAintInCharge wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:24 pm
PterCriss wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:25 pm
AceyAintInCharge wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:28 pm
So Cruel wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 am
Is this is a joke? There’s probably a 1000 guys in their basement or a bar who can play better then Ace now, and a 1000 more who can play better then Keith Richards now, and same goes for a whole lotta other musicians, but who cares? No one pays to see a nobody who’s never created anything over the star who wrote/played on all those great songs.
I was gonna type my own post but then there is this post that stole all of my words verbatim.
Stealing post and credit again I see.
Displaying once again that you have no comprehension of humor or sarcasm.
Your post had neither of those on display. You think your post are the shit but you offer nothing to the conversation again.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by So Cruel » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:03 pm

badmachineogm wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:37 pm
So Cruel wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 am
Is this is a joke? There’s probably a 1000 guys in their basement or a bar who can play better then Ace now, and a 1000 more who can play better then Keith Richards now, and same goes for a whole lotta other musicians, but who cares? No one pays to see a nobody who’s never created anything over the star who wrote/played on all those great songs.
You win, So Cruel! (And here people were getting ready to start calling you So Stupid. But I told them to be patient with you. “He’s one of them remedials,” I said.)

So many jokes in this post. Where to begin? Ah, yes:

1. “Stunning proof,” ‘cause, you know, words like that are like steak thrown to a wolverine for your sort. You’ll jump onto any steaming pile of fairy floss as long as it’s offered as evidence to some Krazed KISS Konspiracy or point of view.

2. OK There’s no denying that Fake Ace here is doing a damn good job at replicating vintage Spaceman riffage. But as you so forcefully pointed out - honestly, So Cruel, that roughshod manner of yours is such a turn on! - there are hundreds, thousands and possibly a gazillion more guitarists that can play so convincingly Acey. Which makes it such a terrible irony that the real deal, himself, can’t. Which brings us to the biggest joke of them all...

3. ...that you and other dreamers on this board actually believe that pulling that carcass onto a stage and squeezing him into his space jammies would make for an improved and more authentic KISS-like experience, because he was - like - there first! As PT Barnum once said, “There’s one like you born every minute....”
You started a lame thread, you got owned by many in your lame thread, and now your butts a little sore.
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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by PterCriss » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:06 pm

badmachineogm wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:37 pm
So Cruel wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 am
Is this is a joke? There’s probably a 1000 guys in their basement or a bar who can play better then Ace now, and a 1000 more who can play better then Keith Richards now, and same goes for a whole lotta other musicians, but who cares? No one pays to see a nobody who’s never created anything over the star who wrote/played on all those great songs.
You win, So Cruel! (And here people were getting ready to start calling you So Stupid. But I told them to be patient with you. “He’s one of them remedials,” I said.)

So many jokes in this post. Where to begin? Ah, yes:

1. “Stunning proof,” ‘cause, you know, words like that are like steak thrown to a wolverine for your sort. You’ll jump onto any steaming pile of fairy floss as long as it’s offered as evidence to some Krazed KISS Konspiracy or point of view.

2. OK There’s no denying that Fake Ace here is doing a damn good job at replicating vintage Spaceman riffage. But as you so forcefully pointed out - honestly, So Cruel, that roughshod manner of yours is such a turn on! - there are hundreds, thousands and possibly a gazillion more guitarists that can play so convincingly Acey. Which makes it such a terrible irony that the real deal, himself, can’t. Which brings us to the biggest joke of them all...

3. ...that you and other dreamers on this board actually believe that pulling that carcass onto a stage and squeezing him into his space jammies would make for an improved and more authentic KISS-like experience, because he was - like - there first! As PT Barnum once said, “There’s one like you born every minute....”
To be fair without calling people names think about this:

We have only had Ace and Tommy play Ace with full makeup and all that goes with it. The guy in the OP and You Tube link proves that Tommy brings a little more Tommy to playing Ace then we all thought (good or bad).

I meet Tommy in 2000 in San Bernardino (yes the sometime I meet Paul and Doc) and given that Ace almost missed the previous nights show I knew Tommy would take over for Ace in the future. I even mentioned this to Tommy when he let me back stage.

Now the OP and So Cruel seem on opposite ends of the spectrum on who can play Ace and it makes you say hmmmm. ????? What if Gene and Paul found a no name guy to play Ace, would that be better then Tommy? or would it work for Kiss 2.0 ?

I think Kiss did the right thing and going with Tommy to fill in for Ace. Why? Because we have some history with Tommy and at least we know Tommy to some extent. How bad would a no name skinny Ace go over with the fans? At least Tommy can take all thereat the fans give him.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by PterCriss » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:08 pm

RisingForce wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:42 am
Funny. Is the singer of this tribute band stunning proof as to why Paul shouldn't be allowed near a stage anymore either?
Why do you say that ?

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by caligari » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:59 pm

Not to sound “mean” but these guys are like 99% of the KISS TRIBUTES. They do not “move” ANYTHING like the KISS member they are impersonating. Study your bootlegs and learn the stage moves.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by Mahatma » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:17 pm

badmachineogm wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:37 pm
So Cruel wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 am
Is this is a joke? There’s probably a 1000 guys in their basement or a bar who can play better then Ace now, and a 1000 more who can play better then Keith Richards now, and same goes for a whole lotta other musicians, but who cares? No one pays to see a nobody who’s never created anything over the star who wrote/played on all those great songs.
You win, So Cruel! (And here people were getting ready to start calling you So Stupid. But I told them to be patient with you. “He’s one of them remedials,” I said.)

So many jokes in this post. Where to begin? Ah, yes:

1. “Stunning proof,” ‘cause, you know, words like that are like steak thrown to a wolverine for your sort. You’ll jump onto any steaming pile of fairy floss as long as it’s offered as evidence to some Krazed KISS Konspiracy or point of view.

2. OK There’s no denying that Fake Ace here is doing a damn good job at replicating vintage Spaceman riffage. But as you so forcefully pointed out - honestly, So Cruel, that roughshod manner of yours is such a turn on! - there are hundreds, thousands and possibly a gazillion more guitarists that can play so convincingly Acey. Which makes it such a terrible irony that the real deal, himself, can’t. Which brings us to the biggest joke of them all...

3. ...that you and other dreamers on this board actually believe that pulling that carcass onto a stage and squeezing him into his space jammies would make for an improved and more authentic KISS-like experience, because he was - like - there first! As PT Barnum once said, “There’s one like you born every minute....”
Such a load of bollocks.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by AceyAintInCharge » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:23 pm

PterCriss wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:58 pm
AceyAintInCharge wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:24 pm
PterCriss wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:25 pm
AceyAintInCharge wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:28 pm
So Cruel wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 am
Is this is a joke? There’s probably a 1000 guys in their basement or a bar who can play better then Ace now, and a 1000 more who can play better then Keith Richards now, and same goes for a whole lotta other musicians, but who cares? No one pays to see a nobody who’s never created anything over the star who wrote/played on all those great songs.
I was gonna type my own post but then there is this post that stole all of my words verbatim.
Stealing post and credit again I see.
Displaying once again that you have no comprehension of humor or sarcasm.
Your post had neither of those on display. You think your post are the shit but you offer nothing to the conversation again.
I noticed you have like four people that you go around picking arguments with constantly I agreed with somebody get over it

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by doombies » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:00 pm

AceyAintInCharge wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:23 pm
PterCriss wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:58 pm
AceyAintInCharge wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:24 pm
PterCriss wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:25 pm
AceyAintInCharge wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:28 pm
So Cruel wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 am
Is this is a joke? There’s probably a 1000 guys in their basement or a bar who can play better then Ace now, and a 1000 more who can play better then Keith Richards now, and same goes for a whole lotta other musicians, but who cares? No one pays to see a nobody who’s never created anything over the star who wrote/played on all those great songs.
I was gonna type my own post but then there is this post that stole all of my words verbatim.
Stealing post and credit again I see.
Displaying once again that you have no comprehension of humor or sarcasm.
Your post had neither of those on display. You think your post are the shit but you offer nothing to the conversation again.
I noticed you have like four people that you go around picking arguments with constantly I agreed with somebody get over it
Here we go with this bullshit again :roll:

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by badmachineogm » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:04 pm

Mahatma wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:17 pm
badmachineogm wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:37 pm
So Cruel wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 am
Is this is a joke? There’s probably a 1000 guys in their basement or a bar who can play better then Ace now, and a 1000 more who can play better then Keith Richards now, and same goes for a whole lotta other musicians, but who cares? No one pays to see a nobody who’s never created anything over the star who wrote/played on all those great songs.
You win, So Cruel! (And here people were getting ready to start calling you So Stupid. But I told them to be patient with you. “He’s one of them remedials,” I said.)

So many jokes in this post. Where to begin? Ah, yes:

1. “Stunning proof,” ‘cause, you know, words like that are like steak thrown to a wolverine for your sort. You’ll jump onto any steaming pile of fairy floss as long as it’s offered as evidence to some Krazed KISS Konspiracy or point of view.

2. OK There’s no denying that Fake Ace here is doing a damn good job at replicating vintage Spaceman riffage. But as you so forcefully pointed out - honestly, So Cruel, that roughshod manner of yours is such a turn on! - there are hundreds, thousands and possibly a gazillion more guitarists that can play so convincingly Acey. Which makes it such a terrible irony that the real deal, himself, can’t. Which brings us to the biggest joke of them all...

3. ...that you and other dreamers on this board actually believe that pulling that carcass onto a stage and squeezing him into his space jammies would make for an improved and more authentic KISS-like experience, because he was - like - there first! As PT Barnum once said, “There’s one like you born every minute....”
Such a load of bollocks.
And that makes you the prick for pointing it out? Must be.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by neiltracy00 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:03 am

Planet Caravan wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:09 pm
This thread is more "stunning proof" that Tommy should be fired immediately and this guy hired. He smokes Tommy.

I mean its all about the makeup & characters right? The players don't matter, right?

Fire Tommy IMMEDIATELY and hire this dude.
get a hearing test

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by EggFlip » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:23 am

The whole reason Ace is great is for the same reason he wouldn't be let back in. Ace Is a rock star. Nothing about Ace is perfect but out of nowhere he pull of stuff he's not supposed to be able to do. You can not replace Ace with a musician it's like replacing Richard Pryor with an actor to do stand up. Its not even a debate in my opinion

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by Ikons » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:54 am

Whenever someone calls the real Gene fat, show them this one.

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by battra » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:06 am

lespaul wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:32 pm
never seen any kiss tribute bands get Peter`s drumming style right..none ...
Oh, I think Kiss Army nailed the shoes in the dryer style of Peter Criss....

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Re: Stunning proof as to why Ace should not be allowed back into KISS

Post by lespaul » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:19 am

battra wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:06 am
lespaul wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:32 pm
never seen any kiss tribute bands get Peter`s drumming style right..none ...
Oh, I think Kiss Army nailed the shoes in the dryer style of Peter Criss....
well

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