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Re: These EOTR crowds. My god.

Post by Ikons » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:05 am

Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
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Ikons wrote:
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Speaking of American crowds, why the hell is everyone lined up in neat rows on the floor section in the US? Here it's just a big mass of people and it adds to the energy in the room.
Because it's Seated Floors and not General Admission..?
My question was why are there chairs on the floor to begin with. Are people really going to sit through a KISS concert on the floor?

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Ikons wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:05 am
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Ikons wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:20 am
Speaking of American crowds, why the hell is everyone lined up in neat rows on the floor section in the US? Here it's just a big mass of people and it adds to the energy in the room.
Because it's Seated Floors and not General Admission..?
My question was why are there chairs on the floor to begin with. Are people really going to sit through a KISS concert on the floor?
Seems to be the tradition in bigger venues in the US. Not unheard of in Sweden either -- Neil Young, Bob Dylan, The Who - I've seen them all with seated floors here in Sweden.

And some places you are forced to have seated (like when Pearl Jam played the colosseum in Verona)

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Post by Crown Royal » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:32 pm

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Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:25 pm
Seats are easy to fill when you have to slash ticket prices. This won't be now 3 year tour for sure!
I think the three-year tour comment was based in part on wishful thinking. If there was demand for them to come back to markets a second time then it may well have stretched close to a three-year tour. As of now, it looks like that demand for return engagements isn't there. They are doing very well for the single show they are playing in the cities they've hit so far.

Maybe there will be a groundswell of demand to hit markets again. But s of now, it looks like the "three year tour" comment was a swing for the fences, and they didn't connect.

Time will tell.

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Post by soeuropean » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:21 pm

Elton’s Farewell Yellow Brick Road is three years long. Paul was just taking a leaf out of that book I imagine. If he believes he’s on the same level as Elton John or it was just hype, who knows.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewel ... Brick_Road

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Post by BlackDiamond67 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:04 pm

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So, a current trending sentiment by a few knuckle-dragging Neanderthals:
THIS is the shit that needs to go
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Post by BlackDiamond67 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:06 pm

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So, a current trending sentiment by a few knuckle-dragging Neanderthals: “Real fans don’t attend KISS live shows, especially their final tour”.

How much one must twist themselves into a pretzel to present, and subscribe to, this logic.
What would be the biggest sign of a Neanderthal:

1. Choosing not to go a live show they happen to feel is pointless

or

2. Believing that youtube compression can show Ace missing words and playing badly that he in reality did not do.
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Post by BlackDiamond67 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:06 pm

Crown Royal wrote:
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BlackDiamond67 wrote:
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So, a current trending sentiment by a few knuckle-dragging Neanderthals: “Real fans don’t attend KISS live shows, especially their final tour”.

How much one must twist themselves into a pretzel to present, and subscribe to, this logic.
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Post by RockSoldier52 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:40 pm

SaintN'Sinner83 wrote:
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It’s casuals man.
No.

It's just the way US audiences are. No matter how small or how large the crowds - I've never been to a lively US show where people had much energy. Go to a club show for a band with a die hard following and it's the same thing.

Even at a KISS show, I'm pretty quiet.
The arena shows have terrible energy in the US, so do outdoor gigs. The last show I went to that had crazy high energy was a sold out NYE show for The Black Keys in Chicago 2010. American audiences (over the last 10+ years) treat rock shows like a movie. They don't realize it goes both ways. If you feed the band energy, they will return it in an even greater form.

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Post by redinthesky » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:43 pm

Crown Royal wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:32 pm
AlmostHuman56 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:25 pm
Seats are easy to fill when you have to slash ticket prices. This won't be now 3 year tour for sure!
I think the three-year tour comment was based in part on wishful thinking. If there was demand for them to come back to markets a second time then it may well have stretched close to a three-year tour. As of now, it looks like that demand for return engagements isn't there. They are doing very well for the single show they are playing in the cities they've hit so far.

Maybe there will be a groundswell of demand to hit markets again. But s of now, it looks like the "three year tour" comment was a swing for the fences, and they didn't connect.

Time will tell.
Since so much of the crowd are 'casual' fans, it seems the crowd really doesn't care much that this is the "last" time they can maybe see Kiss. It's just another night out, big show, makeup, some songs they know. Many real fans are staying home obviously, since so many of the crowd are those casuals. And even Kiss themselves knew the demand would be limited as they left no room for additional nights in any city really. This is why Kiss is going to have to give people a reason to want to come again, and that's where Ace will come in, way down the line. Logically, that's really the only play Kiss has left if they want to make a big additional run of the major markets next year.

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Post by Shawn71 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:46 pm

Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:32 am
Ikons wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:05 am
Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:28 am
Ikons wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:20 am
Speaking of American crowds, why the hell is everyone lined up in neat rows on the floor section in the US? Here it's just a big mass of people and it adds to the energy in the room.
Because it's Seated Floors and not General Admission..?
My question was why are there chairs on the floor to begin with. Are people really going to sit through a KISS concert on the floor?
Seems to be the tradition in bigger venues in the US. Not unheard of in Sweden either -- Neil Young, Bob Dylan, The Who - I've seen them all with seated floors here in Sweden.

And some places you are forced to have seated (like when Pearl Jam played the colosseum in Verona)
Not tradition. General Admission or Festival seating is not allowed in many places.

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Post by Ace Fury » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:04 pm

Kiss is a gimmick band. They put on a show. They're an easy band to talk someone into going to see. (Key word is SEE) Most of us here have a favorite era or eras and are fans of the music. But It's not like we're talking about Billy Joel or Elton John. It's KISS. They blow shit up, one guy flys, or breathes fire, they've got a cat, a spaceman, you can take your kids....

They don't need Ace. Lol and I love Ace. But come on. That train left the station a long time ago. 20 years back. His coming back wouldn't mean anything.

And like many here. I've talked to people who call themselves big Kiss fans and had no idea Tommy wasn't Ace. It's unbelievable I know, but I have had to explain to people based on what year they saw them it wasnt Ace...but in fact Tommy.

One funny side note. My daughter when she was 7 or 8 came into my office and I'd been watching a lot of early KISS live concerts at one point. I then had on a Tommy show I think from Rock Am Ring one random day and she goes "what happened to him??"

I nearly shit it was so funny. So a kid with NO intetest in KISS can tell it wasn't Ace but adults who are fans of KISS can't.

Ace ain't coming back.

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Post by Spiritual_Chaos » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:51 am

redinthesky wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:43 pm
Crown Royal wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:32 pm
AlmostHuman56 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:25 pm
Seats are easy to fill when you have to slash ticket prices. This won't be now 3 year tour for sure!
I think the three-year tour comment was based in part on wishful thinking. If there was demand for them to come back to markets a second time then it may well have stretched close to a three-year tour. As of now, it looks like that demand for return engagements isn't there. They are doing very well for the single show they are playing in the cities they've hit so far.

Maybe there will be a groundswell of demand to hit markets again. But s of now, it looks like the "three year tour" comment was a swing for the fences, and they didn't connect.

Time will tell.
Since so much of the crowd are 'casual' fans, it seems the crowd really doesn't care much that this is the "last" time they can maybe see Kiss. It's just another night out, big show, makeup, some songs they know. Many real fans are staying home obviously, since so many of the crowd are those casuals. And even Kiss themselves knew the demand would be limited as they left no room for additional nights in any city really. This is why Kiss is going to have to give people a reason to want to come again, and that's where Ace will come in, way down the line. Logically, that's really the only play Kiss has left if they want to make a big additional run of the major markets next year.
Ace in the band would not fill up an arena that wouldn't sell out normally. No chance. It's not a bigger thing - for the masses - than the "farewell" card.

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Post by KF73 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:29 am

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Ace in the band would not fill up an arena that wouldn't sell out normally. No chance. It's not a bigger thing - for the masses - than the "farewell" card.
I gotta agree with this. Maybe it would put a few more asses in seats but nothing significant.

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Post by metaldad » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:20 am

Shawn71 wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:46 pm
Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:32 am
Ikons wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:05 am
Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:28 am
Ikons wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:20 am
Speaking of American crowds, why the hell is everyone lined up in neat rows on the floor section in the US? Here it's just a big mass of people and it adds to the energy in the room.
Because it's Seated Floors and not General Admission..?
My question was why are there chairs on the floor to begin with. Are people really going to sit through a KISS concert on the floor?
Seems to be the tradition in bigger venues in the US. Not unheard of in Sweden either -- Neil Young, Bob Dylan, The Who - I've seen them all with seated floors here in Sweden.

And some places you are forced to have seated (like when Pearl Jam played the colosseum in Verona)
Not tradition. General Admission or Festival seating is not allowed in many places.
It started with The Who in Cincinnati
That was awful

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Post by redinthesky » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:29 am

Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:51 am
redinthesky wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:43 pm
Crown Royal wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:32 pm
AlmostHuman56 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:25 pm
Seats are easy to fill when you have to slash ticket prices. This won't be now 3 year tour for sure!
I think the three-year tour comment was based in part on wishful thinking. If there was demand for them to come back to markets a second time then it may well have stretched close to a three-year tour. As of now, it looks like that demand for return engagements isn't there. They are doing very well for the single show they are playing in the cities they've hit so far.

Maybe there will be a groundswell of demand to hit markets again. But s of now, it looks like the "three year tour" comment was a swing for the fences, and they didn't connect.

Time will tell.
Since so much of the crowd are 'casual' fans, it seems the crowd really doesn't care much that this is the "last" time they can maybe see Kiss. It's just another night out, big show, makeup, some songs they know. Many real fans are staying home obviously, since so many of the crowd are those casuals. And even Kiss themselves knew the demand would be limited as they left no room for additional nights in any city really. This is why Kiss is going to have to give people a reason to want to come again, and that's where Ace will come in, way down the line. Logically, that's really the only play Kiss has left if they want to make a big additional run of the major markets next year.
Ace in the band would not fill up an arena that wouldn't sell out normally. No chance. It's not a bigger thing - for the masses - than the "farewell" card.
Respectfully I couldn't disagree more. It's simply logical IMO. Since so much of the crowd are "casual" music fans seeing Kiss for the first time as a night out they won't repeat, that means countless hard rock and real Kiss fans are avoiding this tour. So the return of another original member who is one of hard rock's most iconic guitarists would IMO definitely bring many of the actual fans of the band back. IMO that's why Kiss didn't bring back Ace from the beginning. They are smart guys, they're holding their "Ace" card for when it's needed the most. Wait and see.

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Post by Ace Fury » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:18 am

The Ace card would best be played without make up on stools in theaters. Not being snarky but the sad thing is unplugged I personally think Ace couldn't hide the fact his skills have diminished so much.

He might be sober but he isn't practicing enough to play a 90 minute unplugged set. It barely works for Gene or Kiss as a perk with other crap thrown in. The cruise, a meet and greet 3 song fadoodle, a vault experience. They've got enough discipline now to do a live show. Thats about it. Enjoy EOTR or EOTR ii.
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Post by ludzil » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:24 am

Di3go wrote:
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Of course not Kiss, but always a perfect example

Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AJYusGcF5M
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Ace Fury...I agree with everything you've said.

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When I saw the band in Louisville, KY, the crowd appeared to be dead, and uninspired. It was the same when I saw The Who at the same arena, the KFC Yum Center in 2016. The crowd for that band as well was not very lively. I know Kentucky is more of a country western type of state, but WOW.

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Post by AxlisKing » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:14 pm

soeuropean wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:21 pm
Elton’s Farewell Yellow Brick Road is three years long. Paul was just taking a leaf out of that book I imagine. If he believes he’s on the same level as Elton John or it was just hype, who knows.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewel ... Brick_Road
Elton sold out 4 shows in Chicago, and I believe has sold out every show he's played so far on his tour, with prices as high as Kiss' ...even Paul wouldn't be that ridiculous to believe his band is on that level.

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Post by soeuropean » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:48 pm

AxlisKing wrote:
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Elton’s Farewell Yellow Brick Road is three years long. Paul was just taking a leaf out of that book I imagine. If he believes he’s on the same level as Elton John or it was just hype, who knows.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewel ... Brick_Road
Elton sold out 4 shows in Chicago, and I believe has sold out every show he's played so far on his tour, with prices as high as Kiss' ...even Paul wouldn't be that ridiculous to believe his band is on that level.
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Post by KISSTRONAUT » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:53 pm

BeholderFan wrote:
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When I saw the band in Louisville, KY, the crowd appeared to be dead, and uninspired. It was the same when I saw The Who at the same arena, the KFC Yum Center in 2016. The crowd for that band as well was not very lively. I know Kentucky is more of a country western type of state, but WOW.
I was at the Louisville show and although I was a little under the weather it seemed the crowd around me and when I actually looked around the arena were having a good time. Granted I was watching the band and the show the majority of the time but no complaints whatsoever.

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KISSTRONAUT wrote:
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When I saw the band in Louisville, KY, the crowd appeared to be dead, and uninspired. It was the same when I saw The Who at the same arena, the KFC Yum Center in 2016. The crowd for that band as well was not very lively. I know Kentucky is more of a country western type of state, but WOW.
I was at the Louisville show and although I was a little under the weather it seemed the crowd around me and when I actually looked around the arena were having a good time. Granted I was watching the band and the show the majority of the time but no complaints whatsoever.
I guess, I was judging from where I was sitting, which was front row, and it was kind of quiet where I was sitting. Thanks for your input. The Who concert I attended though, where I was sitting much further back, near the back of the arena, THAT crowd was definitely not as lively.

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Post by KISSTRONAUT » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:58 pm

BeholderFan wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:56 pm
KISSTRONAUT wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:53 pm
BeholderFan wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:40 am
When I saw the band in Louisville, KY, the crowd appeared to be dead, and uninspired. It was the same when I saw The Who at the same arena, the KFC Yum Center in 2016. The crowd for that band as well was not very lively. I know Kentucky is more of a country western type of state, but WOW.
I was at the Louisville show and although I was a little under the weather it seemed the crowd around me and when I actually looked around the arena were having a good time. Granted I was watching the band and the show the majority of the time but no complaints whatsoever.
I guess, I was judging from where I was sitting, which was front row, and it was kind of quiet where I was sitting. Thanks for your input. The Who concert I attended though, where I was sitting much further back, near the back of the arena, THAT crowd was definitely not as lively.
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Post by caveyspice » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:10 pm

AxlisKing wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:14 pm
soeuropean wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:21 pm
Elton’s Farewell Yellow Brick Road is three years long. Paul was just taking a leaf out of that book I imagine. If he believes he’s on the same level as Elton John or it was just hype, who knows.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewel ... Brick_Road
Elton sold out 4 shows in Chicago, and I believe has sold out every show he's played so far on his tour, with prices as high as Kiss' ...even Paul wouldn't be that ridiculous to believe his band is on that level.
In Australia, Elton’s scheduled shows Vs Kiss are almost 4:1
November will see Kiss perform 7 shows.
In December 2019 through to January 2020, Elton John will perform 26 shows here.

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Post by Forevertj » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:46 pm

caveyspice wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:10 pm
AxlisKing wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:14 pm
soeuropean wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:21 pm
Elton’s Farewell Yellow Brick Road is three years long. Paul was just taking a leaf out of that book I imagine. If he believes he’s on the same level as Elton John or it was just hype, who knows.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewel ... Brick_Road
Elton sold out 4 shows in Chicago, and I believe has sold out every show he's played so far on his tour, with prices as high as Kiss' ...even Paul wouldn't be that ridiculous to believe his band is on that level.
In Australia, Elton’s scheduled shows Vs Kiss are almost 4:1
November will see Kiss perform 7 shows.
In December 2019 through to January 2020, Elton John will perform 26 shows here.



Elton John isn't the artist you think he is. If it wasn't for Bernie Taupin, no one would have ever heard of Elton John. Not a slam at all, just an observation.

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Post by soeuropean » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:01 am

What a stupid thing to say. There’s no QUESTION that Bernie Taupin wrote the lyrics to his most popular songs. And a handful of other ones - We Built This City by Starship and These Dreams by Heart, two number one songs for other artists. Alice Cooper From the Inside etc.

It’s not a secret, and he doesn’t try to downplay Bernie or say he wrote everything themselves.

“Isn’t the artist you think he is” ??

Watch the Two Rooms documentary from the early 90s, the whole thing is presented like they’re a total partnership. Elton even says if anything Bernie had more success without Elton than Elton had without Bernie. (Which was arguably true at the time but probably not after The Lion King etc. But whatever)

What a bizarre sentiment.

If it wasn’t for McCartney no one would have heard of Lennon. If it wasn’t for Simmons no one would have heard of Stanley. The list goes on. Frey and Henley. You make it out like it’s some sort of conspiracy from Elton.

Are you cheesed off because Elton’s farewell tour is doing four times as many shows in each city as KISS’ is, and they’ve all been sold out for six months in advance? I can’t understand the animosity otherwise.

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Post by Crown Royal » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:24 am

Forevertj wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:46 pm
caveyspice wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:10 pm
AxlisKing wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:14 pm
soeuropean wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:21 pm
Elton’s Farewell Yellow Brick Road is three years long. Paul was just taking a leaf out of that book I imagine. If he believes he’s on the same level as Elton John or it was just hype, who knows.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewel ... Brick_Road
Elton sold out 4 shows in Chicago, and I believe has sold out every show he's played so far on his tour, with prices as high as Kiss' ...even Paul wouldn't be that ridiculous to believe his band is on that level.
In Australia, Elton’s scheduled shows Vs Kiss are almost 4:1
November will see Kiss perform 7 shows.
In December 2019 through to January 2020, Elton John will perform 26 shows here.



Elton John isn't the artist you think he is. If it wasn't for Bernie Taupin, no one would have ever heard of Elton John. Not a slam at all, just an observation.
And if it wasn't for Neil Bogart you wouldn't have heard of KISS. Every band has that one person in their story that, without them, would have probably meant a much different history for the band in question if that person was never in the picture

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Re: These EOTR crowds. My god.

Post by Forevertj » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:29 pm

Crown Royal wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:24 am
Forevertj wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:46 pm
caveyspice wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:10 pm
AxlisKing wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:14 pm
soeuropean wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:21 pm
Elton’s Farewell Yellow Brick Road is three years long. Paul was just taking a leaf out of that book I imagine. If he believes he’s on the same level as Elton John or it was just hype, who knows.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewel ... Brick_Road
Elton sold out 4 shows in Chicago, and I believe has sold out every show he's played so far on his tour, with prices as high as Kiss' ...even Paul wouldn't be that ridiculous to believe his band is on that level.
In Australia, Elton’s scheduled shows Vs Kiss are almost 4:1
November will see Kiss perform 7 shows.
In December 2019 through to January 2020, Elton John will perform 26 shows here.



Elton John isn't the artist you think he is. If it wasn't for Bernie Taupin, no one would have ever heard of Elton John. Not a slam at all, just an observation.
And if it wasn't for Neil Bogart you wouldn't have heard of KISS. Every band has that one person in their story that, without them, would have probably meant a much different history for the band in question if that person was never in the picture


Kiss would have made it regardless of Bogart or Aucoin. They had the talent and the fierce desire to make an unlike Elton, they wrote their own songs in the beginning.

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Re: These EOTR crowds. My god.

Post by metaldad » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:58 pm

Forevertj wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:29 pm
Crown Royal wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:24 am
Forevertj wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:46 pm
caveyspice wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:10 pm
AxlisKing wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:14 pm
soeuropean wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:21 pm
Elton’s Farewell Yellow Brick Road is three years long. Paul was just taking a leaf out of that book I imagine. If he believes he’s on the same level as Elton John or it was just hype, who knows.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewel ... Brick_Road
Elton sold out 4 shows in Chicago, and I believe has sold out every show he's played so far on his tour, with prices as high as Kiss' ...even Paul wouldn't be that ridiculous to believe his band is on that level.
In Australia, Elton’s scheduled shows Vs Kiss are almost 4:1
November will see Kiss perform 7 shows.
In December 2019 through to January 2020, Elton John will perform 26 shows here.



Elton John isn't the artist you think he is. If it wasn't for Bernie Taupin, no one would have ever heard of Elton John. Not a slam at all, just an observation.
And if it wasn't for Neil Bogart you wouldn't have heard of KISS. Every band has that one person in their story that, without them, would have probably meant a much different history for the band in question if that person was never in the picture


Kiss would have made it regardless of Bogart or Aucoin. They had the talent and the fierce desire to make an unlike Elton, they wrote their own songs in the beginning.
Nope
No Aucoin = No Kiss
Alice Cooper already existed

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Re: These EOTR crowds. My god.

Post by Crown Royal » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:08 am

Forevertj wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:29 pm
Crown Royal wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:24 am
Forevertj wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:46 pm
caveyspice wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:10 pm
AxlisKing wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:14 pm
soeuropean wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:21 pm
Elton’s Farewell Yellow Brick Road is three years long. Paul was just taking a leaf out of that book I imagine. If he believes he’s on the same level as Elton John or it was just hype, who knows.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewel ... Brick_Road
Elton sold out 4 shows in Chicago, and I believe has sold out every show he's played so far on his tour, with prices as high as Kiss' ...even Paul wouldn't be that ridiculous to believe his band is on that level.
In Australia, Elton’s scheduled shows Vs Kiss are almost 4:1
November will see Kiss perform 7 shows.
In December 2019 through to January 2020, Elton John will perform 26 shows here.



Elton John isn't the artist you think he is. If it wasn't for Bernie Taupin, no one would have ever heard of Elton John. Not a slam at all, just an observation.
And if it wasn't for Neil Bogart you wouldn't have heard of KISS. Every band has that one person in their story that, without them, would have probably meant a much different history for the band in question if that person was never in the picture


Kiss would have made it regardless of Bogart or Aucoin. They had the talent and the fierce desire to make an unlike Elton, they wrote their own songs in the beginning.


LOL, you're really reaching now

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Re: These EOTR crowds. My god.

Post by J-Lefty » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:47 am

Shawn71 wrote:
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Speaking of American crowds, why the hell is everyone lined up in neat rows on the floor section in the US? Here it's just a big mass of people and it adds to the energy in the room.
Because it's Seated Floors and not General Admission..?
My question was why are there chairs on the floor to begin with. Are people really going to sit through a KISS concert on the floor?
Seems to be the tradition in bigger venues in the US. Not unheard of in Sweden either -- Neil Young, Bob Dylan, The Who - I've seen them all with seated floors here in Sweden.

And some places you are forced to have seated (like when Pearl Jam played the colosseum in Verona)
Not tradition. General Admission or Festival seating is not allowed in many places.
people spending $200 to $1K a ticket want an actual seat. Can't blame them. No one is moshing at a KISS show.

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