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SaintN'Sinner83 wrote:And Anomaly;

You're saying the logic of taking one guy's opinion and singing it as gospel if it's positive is silly, yet the one negative thing we've heard from a 'source' gives you the gusto to say 'Well, that settles that! I was leaning towards downloading, but now that I've heard from that source, downloading is definitely what I want, now!'.

Talk about gospel!
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Anomaly wrote: Why give Gene credit on having a fantastic song then? If the guy's saying Tommy's playing like Ace again, why make that up? It's not subjective, it's a quality of the recording, Ace-like solos that is. While the Paul's anthems comment is a subjective comment, given how he's been in that mode of songwriting since way back in 1998 I'd give that comment some merit and find it believable.

Who said I was talking about this guy specifically?

Our conversation about bias was more broad than just that Joe Schmo.
I think it's because :
If it's positive don't listen to it, if it's negative praise the hell out of it. Black clouds and brussell sprouts, acid rain and diabetes !!!
The logic of this forum's astounding at times.
:lol:
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KISS Unmasked II wrote:I think it's because :
If it's positive don't listen to it, if it's negative praise the hell out of it. Black clouds and brussell sprouts, acid rain and diabetes !!!
The logic of this forum's astounding at times.
:lol:
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Anomaly wrote:
KISS Unmasked II wrote:
Anomaly wrote:
ImAlmostHuman wrote:Majority of what i read sort of seems like it isn't too hot.. Paul sucks? Tommy pulling ace again? Hard Kiss fans dissapointed?.. Only one or two good comments from what i gather..
Looks like I'll just download the tracks I want then, interested in hearing that "sick groove" Gene song though.
So we are taking one guys opinion and running with it ? A guy that is admittedly not a fan of the current lineup ?
Why don't we wait for Spirit's review and follow that blindly as well !!!
:lol:
Ah yes, if it's negative don't listen to it, if it's positive praise the hell out of it. Sunshine and lollipops, rainbows and gum drops. You know if he was calling it the best album in 25 years by the group you'd be praising it like gospel.

The logic of this forum's astounding at times.
Bingo.
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KISS_BLOOD wrote:
Anomaly wrote:
KISS Unmasked II wrote:
Anomaly wrote:
ImAlmostHuman wrote:Majority of what i read sort of seems like it isn't too hot.. Paul sucks? Tommy pulling ace again? Hard Kiss fans dissapointed?.. Only one or two good comments from what i gather..
Looks like I'll just download the tracks I want then, interested in hearing that "sick groove" Gene song though.
So we are taking one guys opinion and running with it ? A guy that is admittedly not a fan of the current lineup ?
Why don't we wait for Spirit's review and follow that blindly as well !!!
:lol:
Ah yes, if it's negative don't listen to it, if it's positive praise the hell out of it. Sunshine and lollipops, rainbows and gum drops. You know if he was calling it the best album in 25 years by the group you'd be praising it like gospel.

The logic of this forum's astounding at times.
Bingo.
So it's wrong for a KISS fan to be a little biased ?
I'd rather that than hating everything by default. If I was at that stage I'd be long gone.
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Trusted sources say Gene, Paul, Eric ANNNNNNNNNND Tommy play and sing on the new album.

/Trusted Sources.
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Is this "VinnieRue" guy usually pretty accurate with information??
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Anomaly wrote:
SaintN'Sinner83 wrote:
Anomaly wrote:And if the guy was a fan of the current lineup wouldn't there be bias in there? Yes indeed there would be, and people would treat it as gospel.

Okay, I hope you're not saying this is somehow a bad bias. if you're going to take issue with the fact that a KISS (or any band) fan might like music from that band...then I don't know what to say.

:lol:
What I mean is fans will completely over-inflate how the album truly is and might put an overly positive spin on things. Friend of mine's a big Metallica fan and I hadn't heard much off of St. Anger but he told me it was the heaviest thing they ever wrote and that they were finally back to their heavy roots, with it being a fantastic record. Went out, bought it, and it's been collecting dust for the past eight years.

Don't talk much to that guy anymore, wonder what happened to him. :lol:
Of course there's always a bias if you're a fan. But even the most positive bias can't dismiss suckdom when it exists!
Sure it can. Some people thought Sonic Boom was flawless, couldn't be further from the truth.
SONIC BOOM is the album fans have been waiting for since 1978!

Some fans, of course, are never satisfied.
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Anomaly wrote:...fans will completely over-inflate how the album truly is and might put an overly positive spin on things.
One might call that fandom.

Even within a fanbase where opinions differ as broadly as they do here, you'll still find that people who are passionate about something (a particular album or songwriter or era or tour or whatever) are likely to "over-inflate" it and "put an overly-positive spin" on it.

Isn't that just being passionate about something? :wink:
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gshaller wrote:... I'll do what I always do and judge it for myself.
Could you explain this a little bit for our readers?

I'm sure this is a new and scary concept for them, and it may prove difficult to grasp.
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If someone actually knows enough to know that the new KISS single will be leaked soon, then if it is true, they must have it now.
And if so, why isn't it leaked now, or at least a leak date posted? :shock:
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......and so it begins......
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They should at least release a 30sec snippet to keep the 'no lifers' happy for a while
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"not our KISS"?

I don't want another Revenge, I want another "Rock n Roll Over".

I'm thrilled to hear Tommy is playing like Ace.
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vinnyrue wrote:If you like revenge than you are gonna love the new stuff.....
Just sayin' it's like Revenge doesn't really tell me anything :

Everytime I Look At You is a ballad - - - is there a ballad on Monster

will it be more heavy like - - Unholy
or
anthemic like - - God Gave

Carr Jam 1981 - - - instrumental ... will there be an instrumental song on this album ( perhaps Wall of Sound ? )
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Trance wrote:"not our KISS"?

I don't want another Revenge, I want another "Rock n Roll Over".

I'm thrilled to hear Tommy is playing like Ace.
Couldn't agree more Mr. Trance.
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The anticipation is killing me!!! :bounce:
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To those 'in the know'... what song is this on Monster?

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judah1227 wrote:To those 'in the know'... what song is this on Monster?

I forgot about that clip. Cool riff. Very straight ahead kind of vibe. I wonder if it made the album...
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Trance wrote:"not our KISS"?

I don't want another Revenge, I want another "Rock n Roll Over".

I'm thrilled to hear Tommy is playing like Ace.
Of course, if TT is not playing as Ace somebody will say "Ehi, it's not Kiss..."
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SaintN'Sinner83 wrote:And Anomaly;

You're saying the logic of taking one guy's opinion and singing it as gospel if it's positive is silly, yet the one negative thing we've heard from a 'source' gives you the gusto to say 'Well, that settles that! I was leaning towards downloading, but now that I've heard from that source, downloading is definitely what I want, now!'.

Talk about gospel!
:P
Here's the problem with that, I haven't thrown up my arms and said "That's it, fuck this record" the final judge for how well the album is to me is just that...me. Will I still listen to a leak? I will, but it's nice to at least know what we're getting ahead of time. The reviewer says that Tommy still has Ace qualities in his solos, whether this is a classic-sounding solo or more actual lifting of Ace lifts we'll have to wait and see. But hearing that Paul's got anthems on a supposedly heavy record isn't certainly something to get my hopes up. Or given from what I've learned in the past couple of pages, I'm supposed to chuck this review out of the window. I don't give a shit what this guy thinks about his opinions of the songs, that doesn't matter to me, all I'm paying attention to is the qualities of the songs that he's pointing out. Qualities such as 'what do the solos sound like' 'what kinds of songs are being written' 'the vibe of the album.'

Point I want to bring up, everyone was shitting themselves when Sebastian Bach was praising one of Gene's songs. When Bach's a KISS fan who was in Gene's presence at the time, did anyone honestly expect him to actually honestly review the track?
Anomaly wrote: Why give Gene credit on having a fantastic song then? If the guy's saying Tommy's playing like Ace again, why make that up? It's not subjective, it's a quality of the recording, Ace-like solos that is. While the Paul's anthems comment is a subjective comment, given how he's been in that mode of songwriting since way back in 1998 I'd give that comment some merit and find it believable.

Who said I was talking about this guy specifically?

Our conversation about bias was more broad than just that Joe Schmo.
Really? I thought we were just referring to this guy.

I think it's because :
If it's positive don't listen to it, if it's negative praise the hell out of it. Black clouds and brussell sprouts, acid rain and diabetes !!!
The logic of this forum's astounding at times.
Swing and a miss. I'm not praising anything, I'm taking the qualities of the album that the reviewer has pointed out and taking that as information for what I'm expecting. Have I said anywhere in this thread "The record's shit. They screwed up." No, but apparently that's what you're painting the picture as, and that's laughable.
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If it's better than Sonic Boom, bring it on. Boom is one of my top 5 favs,along with Revenge.


It's really no stretch to think people that didn't like SB or Revenge will not like what they're hearing about Monster so far. But most will make up their minds completely after hearing it for themselves.
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kissthat wrote:If it's better than Sonic Boom, bring it on. Boom is one of my top 5 favs,along with Revenge.


It's really no stretch to think people that didn't like SB or Revenge will not like what they're hearing about Monster so far. But most will make up their minds completely after hearing it for themselves.
This, and all of this.
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kissthat wrote:But most will make up their minds completely after hearing it for themselves.
It would seem that many have "made up their minds completely" before even hearing a single autotuned note. :lol:
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mutton pie wrote:
kissthat wrote:But most will make up their minds completely after hearing it for themselves.
It would seem that many have "made up their minds completely" before even hearing a single autotuned note. :lol:

Yes, but in all fairness, if I was reading how everyone that heard Monster thought it was a cross between Unmasked & Crazy Nights, I wouldn't be too excited. :lol:
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HOFCity wrote:
Trance wrote:"not our KISS"?

I don't want another Revenge, I want another "Rock n Roll Over".

I'm thrilled to hear Tommy is playing like Ace.
Couldn't agree more Mr. Trance.
Indeed.
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KIDGEO3 wrote:The anticipation is killing me!!! :bounce:
It's killing my productivity! :drunken: I can't get too much done at work with this on my mind. I keep checking in here every 20 minutes or so!
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HankHabanero wrote:I'll take a leak.
The bathroom is down the hall and on the right.
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I think it's hilarious that there is a headline saying it will be leaked soon.
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chadb2448 wrote:I think it's hilarious that there is a headline saying it will be leaked soon.
:shock: :idea: What you talking about Willis :?:
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kissthat wrote:If it's better than Sonic Boom, bring it on. Boom is one of my top 5 favs,.


Same here.
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I've seen no evidence that it'll be leaked. If it is leaked, let me know.

If someone is going to leak it...well what are you waiting for?
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[quote="vinnyrue"]If you like revenge than you are gonna love the new stuff.....[/quote]

How many songs off of Monster are you baseing this on ? ... Have you heard the ' whole ' album ?

What's the ' title ' of their lead off single ? <<< surely it's ok to leak that ..NOW.. right ?
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HOFCity wrote:
vinnyrue wrote:.[/quote]

What's the ' title ' of their lead off single ? <<< surely it's ok to leak that ..NOW.. right ?

This
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KISS Unmasked II wrote:It's amazing...
The sheer mention of a new KISS song coming very soon and I'm the excitable 8 year old boy that is watching them perform I WAS MADE FOR LOVING YOU on Countdown, the 14 year old that's hearing ASYLUM for the first time or that guy in his early 20's that lined up outside Virgin Megastore at midnight to buy REVENGE the moment it was released.

I've been married, raised children, owned a business and travelled the world yet I still feel like a kid again when it comes to this band !
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With all the negativity I see on here, it's always good to get a reminder that there are others around, that feel like me. :D
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kissthat wrote:
chadb2448 wrote:I think it's hilarious that there is a headline saying it will be leaked soon.
:shock: :idea: What you talking about Willis :?:
First, a leak is when someone who isn't intended to have something has it. The only way you know if something will be leaked soon is if you already have it, which means it has already leaked.

Or. . .it is pure speculation or guessing.
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chadb2448 wrote:
kissthat wrote:
chadb2448 wrote:I think it's hilarious that there is a headline saying it will be leaked soon.
:shock: :idea: What you talking about Willis :?:
First, a leak is when someone who isn't intended to have something has it. The only way you know if something will be leaked soon is if you already have it, which means it has already leaked.

Or. . .it is pure speculation or guessing.
Damn, I was hoping you were playing on the words "leaked soon" and maybe had a link.Back to my yard work for now. :lol:
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11 days. That's it. 11 days til they drop a single. 11 days.
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ok. Just got done hearing the whole monster album front to back. I really like it. But i have to hear an album many times to fall in love it. The devil is me is a fav. But what a tease lol. Now i have to wait for a leak, or the whole disc
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vinnyrue wrote:ok. Just got done hearing the whole monster album front to back. I really like it. But i have to hear an album many times to fall in love it. The devil is me is a fav. But what a tease lol. Now i have to wait for a leak, or the whole disc
Track by track. Go. NOW.
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Anomaly wrote:
vinnyrue wrote:ok. Just got done hearing the whole monster album front to back. I really like it. But i have to hear an album many times to fall in love it. The devil is me is a fav. But what a tease lol. Now i have to wait for a leak, or the whole disc
Track by track. Go. NOW.
This will be interesting.
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drgbootz wrote:......and so it begins......
Yup. Bets this topic does 10 pages before the leaked single hits the internet-- but I'd rather just hear the damn song first. :lol:
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ok. I have a friend thats known tommy for many years. The album in my ears does beat sonic doom lol. And paul comes out swinging imo. Tommy and erics songs are ok. But gene imo again pushes himself like on sonic boom. Its a very good album, but your ears may differ than mine. Some might think its the best album yet. And some may not. Its got some balls, thats what i like. HOH is a very good song and i hear this is the first single. But a gene song may make the cut. Its funny cause thats being under wraps lol. And to be honest, the only reason i got to hear monster. Is cause i help out my friend in some really tough times. Like i said u may love it or hate this album. But front to back i like it. No matter who played on the damn thing. I just hope the single gets leaked so i can hear other peoples thoughts
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Track by track, brief reviews...go. Compare the songs on the new record to existing KISS songs, just so we know what we're dealing with please.
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Anomaly wrote:Track by track, brief reviews...go. Compare the songs on the new record to existing KISS songs, just so we know what we're dealing with please.
Aww, Anomaly is eager and excited!
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No leak would be nice, so we all have to "tune in" and listen at the same time. A debut video to go with it would be good, too. Like the old "World Premiere" days.
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Re: THE NEW KISS SINGLE WILL BE BE LEAKED SOON

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SaintN'Sinner83 wrote:
Anomaly wrote:Track by track, brief reviews...go. Compare the songs on the new record to existing KISS songs, just so we know what we're dealing with please.
Aww, Anomaly is eager and excited!
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When you consider all we've been hearing is "It's really good, you'll either think it's really good or you won't" or "It's great", it's about time we get something more definitive then that. I don't care how good you think it is, I just want to know WHAT you're listening to, y'know?
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Re: THE NEW KISS SINGLE WILL BE BE LEAKED SOON

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So Tommy is knowingly giving away copies to his close friends now? That seems like a great way to get his ass bounced out of the band. I've been wrong before but that type of scenario seems very doubtful.
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Re: THE NEW KISS SINGLE WILL BE BE LEAKED SOON

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Anomaly wrote:
SaintN'Sinner83 wrote:
Anomaly wrote:Track by track, brief reviews...go. Compare the songs on the new record to existing KISS songs, just so we know what we're dealing with please.
Aww, Anomaly is eager and excited!
:mrgreen:
When you consider all we've been hearing is "It's really good, you'll either think it's really good or you won't" or "It's great", it's about time we get something more definitive then that. I don't care how good you think it is, I just want to know WHAT you're listening to, y'know?
Agreed.
It would be good to read "Hell Or Hallejuah is a fast paced song similar to......... with a great lead break" instead of just "it's great" or "it's heavier than Sonic Boom"
We've heard the SB and REVENGE comparisons for months now. We need something juicier !!!
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Re: THE NEW KISS SINGLE WILL BE BE LEAKED SOON

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I don't know about this info.. not calling anyone a liar or anything but something doesn't seem right.. No track titles other than what we already know is confirmed.. Information going back and forth on itself whether it's good or not.. Easy to say some people may like it alot and some people wont- that's obvious.. and if someone heard the album front to back why would they be waiting for a leak? Confusing
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