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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:00 am

Paul’s Vocals on Kiss Kruise

Sounds Pretty Pretty Pretty Good! Larry David Quoted

https://youtu.be/kfWt_Fo4TOY
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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:31 am

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Yup, I've mentioned in a couple previous threads that I think his voice sounds slightly better.
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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:58 am

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It sounds better because they are tuned down a full step and he is basically speaking the lyrics. I'm not trying to be negative or hurt anyones feelings here, its just the truth.
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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:03 pm

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Cannot agree.

He's still out of key and croaking...it's just not terribly noticeable due to the recording mic being in the crowd and the audience overpowering the PA system as a result.
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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:20 pm

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I was there and I thought his voice had improved.
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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:38 pm

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As good as this?


Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAXz5LdIuxU
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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:46 pm

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If we are still allowed to be honest, he sounded awful, especially the unplugged segment. We really have to stop thinking there will be a fix or improvement.
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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:53 pm

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There are some songs he sounds pretty good on and others not so much.
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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:34 pm

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Imagine if Gene wasn't there.
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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:35 pm

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Planet of the Ace wrote:It sounds better because they are tuned down a full step and he is basically speaking the lyrics. I'm not trying to be negative or hurt anyones feelings here, its just the truth.


Sad, but this is true.
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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:37 pm

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wise wrote:As good as this?


Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAXz5LdIuxU


Thanks wise, can never get enough of this amazing show.
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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:40 pm

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aceshigh wrote:If we are still allowed to be honest, he sounded awful, especially the unplugged segment. We really have to stop thinking there will be a fix or improvement.


From the vids I watched he sounds like total shit. His voice is never going to get better so stop dreaming folks.
He also said if they do a new album it'll be different. OF COARSE it will, he can no longer sing in his normal Kiss voice. It'll be stuff he can sort of sing, maybe all ballads. EWW.
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Tommyr wrote:
aceshigh wrote:If we are still allowed to be honest, he sounded awful, especially the unplugged segment. We really have to stop thinking there will be a fix or improvement.


From the vids I watched he sounds like total shit. His voice is never going to get better so stop dreaming folks.
He also said if they do a new album it'll be different. OF COARSE it will, he can no longer sing in his normal Kiss voice. It'll be stuff he can sort of sing, maybe all ballads. EWW.


Perhaps only "Fire & Water" type songs, which I thought he sounded very good on.
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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:45 pm

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The acoustic show, Paul sounded fine. He was a little rougher on the live show. But, overall, when you're there live, you can't tell how bad it is.
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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:50 pm

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aceeg wrote:Sounds Pretty Pretty Pretty Good! Larry David Quoted

https://youtu.be/kfWt_Fo4TOY


Cool that Mr. David is still a fan. :thumleft:
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67321 wrote:
wise wrote:As good as this?


Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAXz5LdIuxU


Thanks wise, can never get enough of this amazing show.


Totally agree, man! :thumleft:
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wise wrote:
67321 wrote:
wise wrote:As good as this?


Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAXz5LdIuxU


Thanks wise, can never get enough of this amazing show.


Totally agree, man! :thumleft:


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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:18 pm

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aceshigh wrote:If we are still allowed to be honest, he sounded awful, especially the unplugged segment. We really have to stop thinking there will be a fix or improvement.

Tommyr wrote:From the vids I watched he sounds like total shit. His voice is never going to get better so stop dreaming folks.
He also said if they do a new album it'll be different. OF COARSE it will, he can no longer sing in his normal Kiss voice. It'll be stuff he can sort of sing, maybe all ballads. EWW.
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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:09 pm

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COARSE being the operative word here
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Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:38 pm

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67321 wrote:
Tommyr wrote:
aceshigh wrote:If we are still allowed to be honest, he sounded awful, especially the unplugged segment. We really have to stop thinking there will be a fix or improvement.


From the vids I watched he sounds like total shit. His voice is never going to get better so stop dreaming folks.
He also said if they do a new album it'll be different. OF COARSE it will, he can no longer sing in his normal Kiss voice. It'll be stuff he can sort of sing, maybe all ballads. EWW.


Perhaps only "Fire & Water" type songs, which I thought he sounded very good on.

He sounded great on that song. Never thought I'd say that in the 21st century.... but, oh well.
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Post Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:50 am

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Now that's a great show. Tomorrow and Tonite was excellent.
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Post Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:39 am

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CHRIS ARMY wrote:The acoustic show, Paul sounded fine. He was a little rougher on the live show. But, overall, when you're there live, you can't tell how bad it is.


Yes you can. Unless you're deaf.
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Post Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:24 am

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Tommyr wrote:
aceshigh wrote:If we are still allowed to be honest, he sounded awful, especially the unplugged segment. We really have to stop thinking there will be a fix or improvement.


From the vids I watched he sounds like total shit. His voice is never going to get better so stop dreaming folks.
He also said if they do a new album it'll be different. OF COARSE it will, he can no longer sing in his normal Kiss voice. It'll be stuff he can sort of sing, maybe all ballads. EWW.


Perhaps only "Fire & Water" type songs, which I thought he sounded very good on.


I did too...listen to it right now...

Watch that video of him singing...then listen to it again...
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CHRIS ARMY wrote:The acoustic show, Paul sounded fine. He was a little rougher on the live show. But, overall, when you're there live, you can't tell how bad it is.


If you can't tell that a singer is out of key when you're hearing them live, I question how you can enjoy music.
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Post Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:56 am

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Paul just needs to rest his voice and he'll be fine. :wink:
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AceInTheHole wrote:Paul just needs to rest his voice and he'll be fine. :wink:


Paul needs to stop caterwauling between songs, that's what he needs to do.
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Post Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:42 pm

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The audience is doing most of the work here.
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Post Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:27 pm

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surprised no one posted videos of this Kruise or is talking about Paul sounding better?
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Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:07 pm

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Planet of the Ace wrote:It sounds better because they are tuned down a full step and he is basically speaking the lyrics. I'm not trying to be negative or hurt anyones feelings here, its just the truth.


I see this "tuned a full step down" a lot. They are not tuned down anymore than usual. 1/2 step. He is singing in a different register but not because of tuning. It's not as simple as that and it would sound way off if they did.
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Why doesn't he let the others sing? How's Gene's voice?
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mybliesad wrote:Why doesn't he let the others sing? How's Gene's voice?


Fine, if he can remember the words. (Teleprompters don't count...he doesn't follow them anyway)
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mybliesad wrote:Why doesn't he let the others sing? How's Gene's voice?


Fine, if he can remember the words. (Teleprompters don't count...he doesn't follow them anyway)


He probably can’t read the words on the prompter. Old age is a bitch.
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LordThurisaz wrote:
aceshigh wrote:If we are still allowed to be honest, he sounded awful, especially the unplugged segment. We really have to stop thinking there will be a fix or improvement.

Tommyr wrote:From the vids I watched he sounds like total shit. His voice is never going to get better so stop dreaming folks.
He also said if they do a new album it'll be different. OF COARSE it will, he can no longer sing in his normal Kiss voice. It'll be stuff he can sort of sing, maybe all ballads. EWW.

Maybe it will be spoken word, a la William Shatner... Or Rap! Anyone for Slim Stanley? :P
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ACE FAN LI wrote:
LordThurisaz wrote:
aceshigh wrote:If we are still allowed to be honest, he sounded awful, especially the unplugged segment. We really have to stop thinking there will be a fix or improvement.

Tommyr wrote:From the vids I watched he sounds like total shit. His voice is never going to get better so stop dreaming folks.
He also said if they do a new album it'll be different. OF COARSE it will, he can no longer sing in his normal Kiss voice. It'll be stuff he can sort of sing, maybe all ballads. EWW.

Maybe it will be spoken word, a la William Shatner... Or Rap! Anyone for Slim Stanley? :P

It could... work? Maybe?

Image

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mybliesad wrote:Why doesn't he let the others sing? How's Gene's voice?

It would be a bit odd if you went to the Paul acoustic show to find Gene up there singing Wouldn't You Like To Know Me :lol:
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Mackemkiss wrote:
mybliesad wrote:Why doesn't he let the others sing? How's Gene's voice?

It would be a bit odd if you went to the Paul acoustic show to find Gene up there singing Wouldn't You Like To Know Me :lol:

There is a small improvement in small venues when he doesnt have to throw the vocals and scream.
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Mackemkiss wrote:
mybliesad wrote:Why doesn't he let the others sing? How's Gene's voice?

It would be a bit odd if you went to the Paul acoustic show to find Gene up there singing Wouldn't You Like To Know Me :lol:


Not if he hid behind a curtain or maybe crouched in the corner behind a potted plant.
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jannep17 wrote:
His Majesty wrote:
mybliesad wrote:Why doesn't he let the others sing? How's Gene's voice?


Fine, if he can remember the words. (Teleprompters don't count...he doesn't follow them anyway)


He probably can’t read the words on the prompter. Old age is a bitch.


Gene invented bi-focals. I don't know why he doesn't use them.
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aceshigh wrote:If we are still allowed to be honest, he sounded awful, especially the unplugged segment. We really have to stop thinking there will be a fix or improvement.

Tommyr wrote:From the vids I watched he sounds like total shit. His voice is never going to get better so stop dreaming folks.
He also said if they do a new album it'll be different. OF COARSE it will, he can no longer sing in his normal Kiss voice. It'll be stuff he can sort of sing, maybe all ballads. EWW.

Maybe it will be spoken word, a la William Shatner... Or Rap! Anyone for Slim Stanley? :P

It could... work? Maybe?

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Sure. :)

Will the real Slim Stanley please stand up.
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Post Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:35 pm

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It's physically impossible for Paul's voice to "heal", has been so for years.

The only thing he can do (rather unsuccessfully) to cover it up is stuff like down-tuning, less air pressure, relying on G&T&E's backing vocals in choruses, half-speaking, hoping people just don't care etc. Resting as such doesn't do much if any improvement in his condition, because the voice starts to break very soon once he starts "singing", no matter what.

And that's about it. To this singer's ears at least, he sounds awful. I don't understand how it could not be noticeable live. I know it must be terrible for Paul, having had a fair share of voice issues myself.

And Fire & Water? His tone didn't sound paricularly healthy in it either, he sounded strained. Although I admit it was much better than could have been expected.
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