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Post Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:31 pm

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10. Granny Takes A Trip ???
13. Sticky Goo ???

Maybe some things in the vault and best left in the vault.

Admin wrote:Prospective Disk 10:
1. Take It Like A Man #2
2. Take It Like A Man #1
3. Have Mercy, Baby
4. We Won't Take It Anymore
5. My Babe
6. Eat Your Heart Out
7. Nine Lives
8. Howling For Your Love
9. I Ain't Coming Back
10. Granny Takes A Trip
11. Piece Of The Rock
12. Rock It
13. Sticky Goo
14. Love Came To Me
15. Roar Of The Greasepaint
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Post Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:38 pm

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PUNCHLINE wrote:
Admin wrote:10. Granny Takes A Trip



Now this I have to hear!!

An answer to where she went when she had to get up get out of here in Deuce :)
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Post Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:28 pm

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Or click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEsrUzK0EqU



maxcohen13
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In the video Gene says Joe Perry asked h̲i̲m̲ if he could play on the demo he was working on, and Gene says "...sure. It was as easy as that." But in the "vault book" (previewed at 1:00 in the video) it states "...and I turned to Joe Perry and said, 'Hey, wanna come down to the studio tomorrow and play a solo?' He said 'Sure.'"
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Post Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:07 pm

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The more prospective inclusions that are listed the more relaxed I become that I'm not missing out by not buying.
Too many songs with more than one version included; and so many latter day songs that you just know aren't going sound significantly different from the released version. It looks like he's releasing just about every track from Asshole - so that's what ? just the same tapes before Bag added a few samples & sequenced fills ?

If the first 4 disks included First Time Around, Amen Corner, Put on Your Slippers, Red Nails, Kansas City Kitty, Non Stop Express, Sweet Flora, Let's All Fly Away, I am a New Man etc. etc. I'd be handing over cash.
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:50 am

Re: Gene "Vault" News and Rumors... **DISCS 5-10 ADDED**

Prospective Disk 4:
1. Plaster Caster
2 X-Ray Eyes
3. Charisma
4. Rockin' In The USA
5. Radioactive
6. See You In Your Dreams Tonight
7. Man of 1,000 Faces #1
8. Man of 1,000 Faces #2
9. Calling Dr. Love
10. Bad, Bad Lovin'
11. Almost Human
12. Burning Up With Fever
13. True Confessions
14. Goin' Blind/Little Lady
15. Larger Than Life
16. It's My Life
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:02 am

Re: Gene "Vault" News and Rumors... **DISCS 5-10 ADDED**

Admin wrote:Prospective Disk 4:
1. Plaster Caster
2 X-Ray Eyes
3. Charisma
4. Rockin' In The USA
5. Radioactive
6. See You In Your Dreams Tonight
7. Man of 1,000 Faces #1
8. Man of 1,000 Faces #2
9. Calling Dr. Love
10. Bad, Bad Lovin'
11. Almost Human
12. Burning Up With Fever
13. True Confessions
14. Goin' Blind/Little Lady
15. Larger Than Life
16. It's My Life


Can't wait to listen to the X-Ray Eyes demo

where are the tracklists coming from? producer experience?
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:07 am

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Fans were allowed to check out the Vault prototype book on the Kruise. The weren’t supposed to take pictures ... they’re KISS fans so don’t obey so good (thankfully)! Since the Vault hasn’t gone into production this is not definitive, hence “prospective.” There are certainly things I’d change (and not pay $25k to point out).
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:15 am

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Admin wrote:Fans were allowed to check out the Vault prototype book on the Kruise. The weren’t supposed to take pictures ... they’re KISS fans so don’t obey so good (thankfully)! Since the Vault hasn’t gone into production this is not definitive, hence “prospective.” There are certainly things I’d change (and not pay $25k to point out).

cool, thanks Julian.. and thanks to those disobedients fans!
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:28 am

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Admin wrote:Prospective Disk 4:
1. Plaster Caster
2 X-Ray Eyes
3. Charisma
4. Rockin' In The USA
5. Radioactive
6. See You In Your Dreams Tonight
7. Man of 1,000 Faces #1
8. Man of 1,000 Faces #2
9. Calling Dr. Love
10. Bad, Bad Lovin'
11. Almost Human
12. Burning Up With Fever
13. True Confessions
14. Goin' Blind/Little Lady
15. Larger Than Life
16. It's My Life


by the way, so having now the 10 discs, I realize we will never hear the "Feel Like Heaven" demo complete .. could it be one of those tapes that were damaged?
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:44 am

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Luchino wrote:
Admin wrote:Prospective Disk 4:
1. Plaster Caster
2 X-Ray Eyes
3. Charisma
4. Rockin' In The USA
5. Radioactive
6. See You In Your Dreams Tonight
7. Man of 1,000 Faces #1
8. Man of 1,000 Faces #2
9. Calling Dr. Love
10. Bad, Bad Lovin'
11. Almost Human
12. Burning Up With Fever
13. True Confessions
14. Goin' Blind/Little Lady
15. Larger Than Life
16. It's My Life


by the way, so having now the 10 discs, I realize we will never hear the "Feel Like Heaven" demo complete .. could it be one of those tapes that were damaged?


Don't give up hope yet brother. This is a "prospective" track listing. He keeps saying "My Uncle Is A Raft" is on there yet we don't see it listed in the track listings yet. Someone else who attended also mentioned an eleventh disc so we shall see. I think there is a good chance this will change before it's finalized.
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:40 pm

Disk 2

What' the current Prospective Disk 2 track-list?

Also, is Prospective Disk 6 track-list out?
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:46 pm

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mc_peko wrote:What' the current Prospective Disk 2 track-list?

Also, is Prospective Disk 6 track-list out?

I think a screenshot of 2 was posted in the thread somewhere.
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:48 pm

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LordThurisaz wrote:I think a screenshot of 2 was posted in the thread somewhere.


So did I. Not able to find it right now though.
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:05 pm

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Disc 2:
1 Weapons
2 Weapons (unreadable)
3 Hate
4 Carnival of souls
5 Master of Flash
6 "scary beth"
7 Within
8 In your face
9 In your face
10
11 Cathedral intro
12 I wanna live
13 If it's too hot you're too cold
14 Rain keeps fallin'
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:14 pm

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I think track 6 is actually "In My Head" at least from what I can make out from the screen capture. It makes sense. Track 10 may be "Within #2."
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:18 pm

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Has it been confirmed that ALL of the material on the Vault is stuff that hasn't come out officially before?
We already have I Know Who You Are and Plaster Caster (Love Gun Deluxe), You're My Reason For Living and Rain Keeps Falling (Sex Money Kiss lunchbox), Bad Bad Loving (Kiss box set) etc! It would be a real shame (and a waste of space) IF the Vault includes the same versions of demos that have already been issued officially... Does anyone know?
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:28 pm

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Thanks guys! Do you have a link to the capture or video too?
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douloveme wrote:Has it been confirmed that ALL of the material on the Vault is stuff that hasn't come out officially before?
We already have I Know Who You Are and Plaster Caster (Love Gun Deluxe), You're My Reason For Living and Rain Keeps Falling (Sex Money Kiss lunchbox), Bad Bad Loving (Kiss box set) etc! It would be a real shame (and a waste of space) IF the Vault includes the same versions of demos that have already been issued officially... Does anyone know?


Gene has been known for recording multiple versions of songs, so there is no real way of knowing yet. That said, if the 11th disc is in any way legitimate, that could explain the presence of songs we already have.
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:08 pm

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I now hope disc 11 is pre Kiss recordings only. Those seem to be not on this release at all now! Very scary... It says 1966 - 2016. Makes no sense.
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:24 pm

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on the Kruise I heard a different version of "in Your Face" than the one we all have, and a dylan song (i think Na NA NA) and some of Dylan and Gene talking
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:27 pm

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Thanks for the update.Really thought the track with Paul on it would have been the Not For The Innocent demo, but i can't see it anywhere...also didn't he say Journey of 1000 years demo was going to be included?
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For me, I was hoping to see some of Gene's Unmasked demos. I'm still hoping there's a chance they will be.
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:22 pm

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rscott71 wrote:on the Kruise I heard a different version of "in Your Face" than the one we all have, and a dylan song (i think Na NA NA) and some of Dylan and Gene talking


Yes even though i really don't like PC the album, there are some great demos circulationg of all those songs, including a couple of different versions of In Your Face.

https://www.discogs.com/Kiss-Psycho-Cir ... se/8464904

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4SMdXEJklw
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Post Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:51 pm

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destroyerrnro wrote:For me, I was hoping to see some of Gene's Unmasked demos. I'm still hoping there's a chance they will be.


Yeah was hoping for the Naked City demo with Paul, Bob, Peppy Castro and Karla DeVito
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Rabant777 wrote:The more prospective inclusions that are listed the more relaxed I become that I'm not missing out by not buying.
Too many songs with more than one version included; and so many latter day songs that you just know aren't going sound significantly different from the released version. It looks like he's releasing just about every track from Asshole - so that's what ? just the same tapes before Bag added a few samples & sequenced fills ?

If the first 4 disks included First Time Around, Amen Corner, Put on Your Slippers, Red Nails, Kansas City Kitty, Non Stop Express, Sweet Flora, Let's All Fly Away, I am a New Man etc. etc. I'd be handing over cash.


I was thinking this myself when I was looking at the prospective inclusions. I have quite a modest demo collection but with this and so many alternate versions of officially released songs, my angry twisted bitterness has subsided considerably. There will be a few gems in there no question, but I will wait for the peasant release in a few years.
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destroyerrnro wrote:
douloveme wrote:Has it been confirmed that ALL of the material on the Vault is stuff that hasn't come out officially before?
We already have I Know Who You Are and Plaster Caster (Love Gun Deluxe), You're My Reason For Living and Rain Keeps Falling (Sex Money Kiss lunchbox), Bad Bad Loving (Kiss box set) etc! It would be a real shame (and a waste of space) IF the Vault includes the same versions of demos that have already been issued officially... Does anyone know?


Gene has been known for recording multiple versions of songs, so there is no real way of knowing yet. That said, if the 11th disc is in any way legitimate, that could explain the presence of songs we already have.



The guy who did the podcasts was on the kruise and I spoke with him for quite a bit of time. He told me that none of the songs on the box set are the same versions that we already have. He also said that when a song is on the box set more than once it is because the two versions are very different from each other, not just a lyric change or something minor. Time will tell.
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Luchino wrote:
Admin wrote:Prospective Disk 4:
1. Plaster Caster
2 X-Ray Eyes
3. Charisma
4. Rockin' In The USA
5. Radioactive
6. See You In Your Dreams Tonight
7. Man of 1,000 Faces #1
8. Man of 1,000 Faces #2
9. Calling Dr. Love
10. Bad, Bad Lovin'
11. Almost Human
12. Burning Up With Fever
13. True Confessions
14. Goin' Blind/Little Lady
15. Larger Than Life
16. It's My Life


by the way, so having now the 10 discs, I realize we will never hear the "Feel Like Heaven" demo complete .. could it be one of those tapes that were damaged?


If memory serves, I'm pretty sure I saw it in the book. Disc 11 maybe?
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Given that what we saw looked so much like a final product, I would bet that the tracklists we saw are set in stone. Time will tell though. I will say that there were some funky errors in the book - apostrophes and other characters showed up as rectangular boxes, like when someone sends you a doc that doesn't render certain characters.
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semidetached wrote:Given that what we saw looked so much like a final product, I would bet that the tracklists we saw are set in stone. Time will tell though. I will say that there were some funky errors in the book - apostrophes and other characters showed up as rectangular boxes, like when someone sends you a doc that doesn't render certain characters.

Where did you view the book to see such errors? Hopefully it wasn’t a final mock up and Gene isn’t letting something like that pass, although honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised. Quality control on products has never really been the Kiss way (even though this isn’t a Kiss project).
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semidetached wrote:Given that what we saw looked so much like a final product, I would bet that the tracklists we saw are set in stone. Time will tell though. I will say that there were some funky errors in the book - apostrophes and other characters showed up as rectangular boxes, like when someone sends you a doc that doesn't render certain characters.

Yikes! :shock:
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you can now update this Julian :wink: ..many are now confirmed
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StarChildBlade wrote:
semidetached wrote:Given that what we saw looked so much like a final product, I would bet that the tracklists we saw are set in stone. Time will tell though. I will say that there were some funky errors in the book - apostrophes and other characters showed up as rectangular boxes, like when someone sends you a doc that doesn't render certain characters.

Where did you view the book to see such errors? Hopefully it wasn’t a final mock up and Gene isn’t letting something like that pass, although honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised. Quality control on products has never really been the Kiss way (even though this isn’t a Kiss project).


The entire set was there on the Kruise to look thru. The gentleman showing it off and plugging it said we could do anything with it for as long as we wanted except take pics of the tracklistings because they were tentative. There were commplete notes for all of the tracks though. It would seem crazy to modify it now - but, as I said, those errors were there, so hopefully that was some kind of test printing.
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semidetached wrote:Given that what we saw looked so much like a final product, I would bet that the tracklists we saw are set in stone. Time will tell though. I will say that there were some funky errors in the book - apostrophes and other characters showed up as rectangular boxes, like when someone sends you a doc that doesn't render certain characters.

yeah, in the screen caps that I've seen I saw some misspells and some punctuation errors.. so definitely it needs a revision
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Here is partial footage of Gene on the cruise discussing the Vault...hopefully the full session will surface soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbHqQBaM3YQ
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Disc Two:
1. “Weapons”
2. “Weapons (Power To Raise The Dead)”
3. “Hate”
4. “Carnival Of Souls #2”
5. “Master Of Flash”
6. “Heavy Rain”
7. “Within”
8. “In Your Face”
9. “In Your Face with Ace”
10. “Rain #2”
11. “Carnival Intro”
12. “I Wanna Live”
13. “If It’s Too Hot, You’re Too Cold”
14. “Rain Keeps Fallin’”
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"Hand of Fate" out now and more

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Post Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:46 pm

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Hey Julian, are you reading this far down the thread?

If you are, here's something I wish you'd do:

You've done a great job compiling the track listing, but I would love to see it together with the year (attested or assumed) that each song was recorded.
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Hellbastard wrote:Hey Julian, are you reading this far down the thread?

If you are, here's something I wish you'd do:

You've done a great job compiling the track listing, but I would love to see it together with the year (attested or assumed) that each song was recorded.



I'll do it.

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asamphord wrote:I'll do it. uno momento


Cool. Looking forward to it.
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Hellbastard wrote:
asamphord wrote:I'll do it. uno momento


Cool. Looking forward to it.



might actually be later tonight, forgot i have to run an errand here in about 45 mins, but sometime tonight now that we have a good idea of all 10 discs, i'll do a write-up on what I know about any of the tracks. I've been studying every bit of info to be found on the Vault religiously, taking screenshots of every page of the book that's been shown and have some pics people took of the book on the Kruise, so if the information is out there, I think I have it. Hopefully Julian will chime in too, he knows more than I do, either way. LOL
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