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Post Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:13 am

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KISSFACE wrote:I confess to being intrigued to know just what Gene would include in a 10K package.

If it's more than just the typical M&G or songwriting session thing he does, that could be interesting.
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Post Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:05 am

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LordThurisaz wrote:
KISSFACE wrote:I confess to being intrigued to know just what Gene would include in a 10K package.

If it's more than just the typical M&G or songwriting session thing he does, that could be interesting.

Stay tuned.
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Post Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:34 pm

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This is going to be awesome.

I love all Gene's solo stuff and most of his KISS songs as well.
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thundergod76 wrote:I must be one of the few who has zero interest in this. Most of Gene's solo stuff is terrible. Why would I want 10 more cds of it?

I also have close to zero interest in this as well. Might be interested in Gene's stuff during 82-83, but other than that, not exactly interested in this at all.


While I generally like Gene's material, I have almost no interest in this either. I'm really past the point of caring. That said, once it hits the bargain bins (which I believe will happen fairly quickly), I'll probably pick it up just to add to the collection. My best guess is that it's something I'll listen to once then it will collect dust.
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sicksickphil wrote:
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brokentiny wrote:
goinblind wrote:So not $10K???


Yeah not for 10 CDs. Even Simmons won't try and sell it for $10,000.
I mean if Pink Floyd's 27 disc set was able to be kept around $500, Geno can't expect folks to fork out so much more for way less.
I'd say around the $100 USD.

$10k price is happening.


If the the 10k asking price is the only way to get it, Rhino would not be involved.

That's what my response too, but that was the only way Gene would go with any company. They had to accept the terms, and they did.


Why would they accept these terms ? Rhino is a company that wants to make money. They are like the Scream Factory of RnR. They do smaller runs of stuff that has a limited appeal to a devoted audience at a slightly inflated price. A 10cd box set at a 10k retail price is not something they would put out if that was the only option
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I am so looking forward to this set...! I remember Barack in the 90s when you'd hear things like Peter talking about his book or Ace talking about making music or Gene and his set and they seemed like crazy fantasy. Hot air that would amount to nothing.

Well... Ace has put out three CDs and ALL four guys have written autobios, and now this is scheduled to be released? These are good times.
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sicksickphil wrote:
StarChildBlade wrote:
sicksickphil wrote:
StarChildBlade wrote:
brokentiny wrote:
goinblind wrote:So not $10K???


Yeah not for 10 CDs. Even Simmons won't try and sell it for $10,000.
I mean if Pink Floyd's 27 disc set was able to be kept around $500, Geno can't expect folks to fork out so much more for way less.
I'd say around the $100 USD.

$10k price is happening.


If the the 10k asking price is the only way to get it, Rhino would not be involved.

That's what my response too, but that was the only way Gene would go with any company. They had to accept the terms, and they did.


Why would they accept these terms ? Rhino is a company that wants to make money. They are like the Scream Factory of RnR. They do smaller runs of stuff that has a limited appeal to a devoted audience at a slightly inflated price. A 10cd box set at a 10k retail price is not something they would put out if that was the only option

There has been mention of a cheapish version to be available, but nothing more than a possibility at this point. Believe me, I'm as baffled as you are by the notion of Rhino picking this up at Gene's ridiculous price tag, but apparently it's happening...
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Where did this "$10k" pricetag rumor come from?
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Dr Like wrote:I remember Barack in the 90s


You connected huh? :P
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LordThurisaz wrote:
thundergod76 wrote:I must be one of the few who has zero interest in this. Most of Gene's solo stuff is terrible. Why would I want 10 more cds of it?

I also have close to zero interest in this as well. Might be interested in Gene's stuff during 82-83, but other than that, not exactly interested in this at all.


While I generally like Gene's material, I have almost no interest in this either. I'm really past the point of caring. That said, once it hits the bargain bins (which I believe will happen fairly quickly), I'll probably pick it up just to add to the collection. My best guess is that it's something I'll listen to once then it will collect dust.


Bloody hell, you're a real barrel of laughs.
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Where's Drago? wrote:
Crimson Harpoon wrote:
LordThurisaz wrote:
thundergod76 wrote:I must be one of the few who has zero interest in this. Most of Gene's solo stuff is terrible. Why would I want 10 more cds of it?

I also have close to zero interest in this as well. Might be interested in Gene's stuff during 82-83, but other than that, not exactly interested in this at all.


While I generally like Gene's material, I have almost no interest in this either. I'm really past the point of caring. That said, once it hits the bargain bins (which I believe will happen fairly quickly), I'll probably pick it up just to add to the collection. My best guess is that it's something I'll listen to once then it will collect dust.


Bloody hell, you're a real barrel of laughs.


Just being honest.
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Post Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:08 pm

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Crimson Harpoon wrote:Just being honest.


Around here, you're supposed to kiss Gene and Paul's butts and call it ice cream.

(Pun INTENDED!)

Me, I think you're hysterical and often wrong...except when it comes to metal, then you're always wrong..haha.
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Crimson Harpoon wrote:
Where's Drago? wrote:
Crimson Harpoon wrote:
LordThurisaz wrote:
thundergod76 wrote:I must be one of the few who has zero interest in this. Most of Gene's solo stuff is terrible. Why would I want 10 more cds of it?

I also have close to zero interest in this as well. Might be interested in Gene's stuff during 82-83, but other than that, not exactly interested in this at all.


While I generally like Gene's material, I have almost no interest in this either. I'm really past the point of caring. That said, once it hits the bargain bins (which I believe will happen fairly quickly), I'll probably pick it up just to add to the collection. My best guess is that it's something I'll listen to once then it will collect dust.


Bloody hell, you're a real barrel of laughs.


Just being honest.

Yeah, I really don't get why people are so excited about this. I hope someone else curated what songs were good enough for this. Otherwise, it's more than likely that Gene picked a bunch of meh songs.
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Erwin wrote:
Dr Like wrote:I remember Barack in the 90s


You connected huh? :P


Oh wow - hah hah - my phone's autocorrect is.... hilarious.

No, Barry and I only go back to 2004.

That's funny. I was typing that late at night, half-asleep, on my phone. I hesitate to read what other things were auto-corrected in that post...! :D
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Ace_Invader wrote:Where did this "$10k" pricetag rumor come from?

Me. And it's not a rumor. This is real info from a friend of mine who works with the agency that shopped Gene's proposal to record labels. Rhino signed on.
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Where's Drago? wrote:
Crimson Harpoon wrote:
LordThurisaz wrote:
thundergod76 wrote:I must be one of the few who has zero interest in this. Most of Gene's solo stuff is terrible. Why would I want 10 more cds of it?

I also have close to zero interest in this as well. Might be interested in Gene's stuff during 82-83, but other than that, not exactly interested in this at all.


While I generally like Gene's material, I have almost no interest in this either. I'm really past the point of caring. That said, once it hits the bargain bins (which I believe will happen fairly quickly), I'll probably pick it up just to add to the collection. My best guess is that it's something I'll listen to once then it will collect dust.


Bloody hell, you're a real barrel of laughs.


Some fans dont share the same level of interest in KISS as you do...shock horror

Simmons boxset might be interesting if set at the right price, if Simmons sees this as another way to make money, he can piss off!
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Post Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:16 pm

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$10.000 ÷ 150 demos =

...

:twisted: $66.6666666667 :twisted: per demo.

A financial model that works!

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Erwin wrote:$10.000 ÷ 150 demos =

...

:twisted: $66.6666666667 :twisted: per demo.

A financial model that works!

:arrow:


If Gene thinks anyone is actually going to pay $10k for a box set of his demos, he is utterly delusional. The only way this is a financial model that could be successful would be if selling a grand total of one covers the cost of production.
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steveh67 wrote: Simmons boxset might be interesting if set at the right price, if Simmons sees this as another way to make money, he can piss off!

It'll be more interesting for being set at an outRAGEous price and the Circus to follow when Gene starts up the hype machine.
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I still think there's going to be different versions (and prices) of the box set.

If the set is really going to be $10.000 then Gene and Rhino can go scratch.
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Crimson Harpoon wrote:
Erwin wrote:$10.000 ÷ 150 demos =

...

:twisted: $66.6666666667 :twisted: per demo.

A financial model that works!

:arrow:


If Gene thinks anyone is actually going to pay $10k for a box set of his demos, he is utterly delusional. The only way this is a financial model that could be successful would be if selling a grand total of one covers the cost of production.


Round two of Gene vs the pirates :bom:
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Erwin wrote:
Crimson Harpoon wrote:
Erwin wrote:$10.000 ÷ 150 demos =

...

:twisted: $66.6666666667 :twisted: per demo.

A financial model that works!

:arrow:


If Gene thinks anyone is actually going to pay $10k for a box set of his demos, he is utterly delusional. The only way this is a financial model that could be successful would be if selling a grand total of one covers the cost of production.


Round two of Gene vs the pirates :bom:

My money is on the pirates. They haven't really lost thus far.
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Anybody who believes it is going to be $10K is out of their mind. No chance in hell.
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Crimson Harpoon wrote:If Gene thinks anyone is actually going to pay $10k for a box set of his demos, he is utterly delusional. The only way this is a financial model that could be successful would be if selling a grand total of one covers the cost of production.


Agreed. He's said and done some ridiculous things, but asking ten grand for demos would take the cake.

He'd have to throw in a signed axe bass and a date with Sophie to get any serious consideration.
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StarChildBlade wrote:
Ace_Invader wrote:Where did this "$10k" pricetag rumor come from?

Me. And it's not a rumor. This is real info from a friend of mine who works with the agency that shopped Gene's proposal to record labels. Rhino signed on.


I'm calling BS
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This kind of thing really shows up the crap Gene spews with his we hear & we obey, the fans are the bosses et al...
The monster of all box sets was supposed to have the Eddie & Alex VH demos included but all we got was filler & about 1 CD's worth of never before heard tracks.
$10,000 for this is an insult to the majority of fans who would like to buy it.
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sicksickphil wrote:
StarChildBlade wrote:
Ace_Invader wrote:Where did this "$10k" pricetag rumor come from?

Me. And it's not a rumor. This is real info from a friend of mine who works with the agency that shopped Gene's proposal to record labels. Rhino signed on.


I'm calling BS

Sigh..... It's happening.
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StarChildBlade wrote:
sicksickphil wrote:
StarChildBlade wrote:
Ace_Invader wrote:Where did this "$10k" pricetag rumor come from?

Me. And it's not a rumor. This is real info from a friend of mine who works with the agency that shopped Gene's proposal to record labels. Rhino signed on.


I'm calling BS

Sigh..... It's happening.

Don't be ridiculous.
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Under The Rose wrote:
StarChildBlade wrote:
sicksickphil wrote:
StarChildBlade wrote:
Ace_Invader wrote:Where did this "$10k" pricetag rumor come from?

Me. And it's not a rumor. This is real info from a friend of mine who works with the agency that shopped Gene's proposal to record labels. Rhino signed on.


I'm calling BS

Sigh..... It's happening.

Don't be ridiculous.

I'm not. I've been a member of this board for a long time and never have I caused waves or lied about anything. Was just passing along some inside info.
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StarChildBlade wrote:
Under The Rose wrote:
StarChildBlade wrote:
sicksickphil wrote:
StarChildBlade wrote:
Ace_Invader wrote:Where did this "$10k" pricetag rumor come from?

Me. And it's not a rumor. This is real info from a friend of mine who works with the agency that shopped Gene's proposal to record labels. Rhino signed on.


I'm calling BS

Sigh..... It's happening.

Don't be ridiculous.

I'm not. I've been a member of this board for a long time and never have I caused waves or lied about anything. Was just passing along some inside info.


I don't think it's a lie, but I think it is a total misunderstanding. No way on earth would they price a box of demos at $10,000. It makes zero sense.
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Under The Rose wrote:
StarChildBlade wrote:
Under The Rose wrote:
StarChildBlade wrote:
sicksickphil wrote:
StarChildBlade wrote:
Ace_Invader wrote:Where did this "$10k" pricetag rumor come from?

Me. And it's not a rumor. This is real info from a friend of mine who works with the agency that shopped Gene's proposal to record labels. Rhino signed on.


I'm calling BS

Sigh..... It's happening.

Don't be ridiculous.

I'm not. I've been a member of this board for a long time and never have I caused waves or lied about anything. Was just passing along some inside info.


I don't think it's a lie, but I think it is a total misunderstanding. No way on earth would they price a box of demos at $10,000. It makes zero sense.


I think that's pretty clear - but he's sticking with what he's heard. It seem so unlikely, and all we have pointing in that direction his one person's word, but the more we debate it, the more it becomes real, so I say we acknowledge that he's said this thing, right or wrong, which we will find out in a few months the veracity of, and move on to other things to discuss.

As-is, people are already talking about this like it's fact, when all we know is what one anonymous person heard from "someone". I'm not saying he's wrong, but there's no way to know one way or the other at this point and to speculate on something like that is futile. Why not also speculate on this thing that I heard from my contact at Rhino: That each set comes with a Hershey's Chocolate KISS.

You know? We'll know soon enough the details of the set - I think it's more fun to speculate which tracks will be on it or what it'll come with other than focusing on un-provable rumors about the price.
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Under The Rose wrote:I don't think it's a lie, but I think it is a total misunderstanding. No way on earth would they price a box of demos at $10,000. It makes zero sense.

Then again, there was the Monster flip-book for $4000 or so, all on its own, but this time Gene's got 12 Hours of pure listening pleasure for you, haha. Maybe the box is made of platinum.

DrLike wrote:I think it's more fun to speculate which tracks will be on it

He originally spoke of 100 tracks, and now it's 150. Would that be just about...Everything? All the songs?
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brokentiny wrote:
goinblind wrote:So not $10K???


Yeah not for 10 CDs. Even Simmons won't try and sell it for $10,000.
I mean if Pink Floyd's 27 disc set was able to be kept around $500, Geno can't expect folks to fork out so much more for way less.
I'd say around the $100 USD.

$10k price is happening.


:lol:
If this is true,Gene has been out in the sun too long. :lol:
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KISSFACE wrote:
DrLike wrote:I think it's more fun to speculate which tracks will be on it

He originally spoke of 100 tracks, and now it's 150. Would that be just about...Everything? All the songs?


The 150 number is something I just can't get my head around.
''150 songs that have never been released.''
I love the guy but...
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Under The Rose wrote:
StarChildBlade wrote:
Under The Rose wrote:
StarChildBlade wrote:
sicksickphil wrote:
StarChildBlade wrote:
Ace_Invader wrote:Where did this "$10k" pricetag rumor come from?

Me. And it's not a rumor. This is real info from a friend of mine who works with the agency that shopped Gene's proposal to record labels. Rhino signed on.


I'm calling BS

Sigh..... It's happening.

Don't be ridiculous.

I'm not. I've been a member of this board for a long time and never have I caused waves or lied about anything. Was just passing along some inside info.


I don't think it's a lie, but I think it is a total misunderstanding. No way on earth would they price a box of demos at $10,000. It makes zero sense.



It only makes sense if there is one super deluxe package at 10k to get some headlines and then there is the normal box set.
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kiss-1976 wrote:This kind of thing really shows up the crap Gene spews with his we hear & we obey, the fans are the bosses et al...
The monster of all box sets was supposed to have the Eddie & Alex VH demos included but all we got was filler & about 1 CD's worth of never before heard tracks.
$10,000 for this is an insult to the majority of fans who would like to buy it.


Hey...why didn't I buy the $75 Kiss Boxed Set?

Because it was little more than a Greatest Hits!

I paid, I THINK, $50 for the Doors Boxed set...2 discs of never before heard versions and unreleased tunes, 1 full concert, and a band favorites CD, which wasn't a greatest hits.

Kiss Boxed Set?

5 CDs...mostly heard material...sure I'd like to hear the handful of songs there I've never heard... (I don't count demos btw)

When that thing came out...it represented about 12 hours (after taxes) of working in order to get it...aka 30% of a week at work to get MOSTLY songs I already had.
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Post Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:39 pm

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

Why does Gene always forget about the "common person" who has shelled out so much money on KISS releases and merchandise over the years.If the the rumor of $10,000 is correct(which i just can't believe it's true) he is alienating a massive fan base who can't afford or wouldn't pay a price for something like that.

KISS did the same with the MONSTER book, if they had have released it and priced it like a KISSTORY book, would have sold thousands of copies.

Greedy pig Gene!
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Post Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:50 pm

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

Rhiannon wrote:Why does Gene always forget about the "common person" who has shelled out so much money on KISS releases and merchandise over the years.If the the rumor of $10,000 is correct(which i just can't believe it's true) he is alienating a massive fan base who can't afford or wouldn't pay a price for something like that.

KISS did the same with the MONSTER book, if they had have released it and priced it like a KISSTORY book, would have sold thousands of copies.

Greedy pig Gene!


That's a kind of weird stance to take, isn't it? You admit that you can't believe the rumor is true, and yet you still call him a greedy pig?

What would you call him if you DID believe the rumor?
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Post Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:20 am

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

battra wrote:
kiss-1976 wrote:This kind of thing really shows up the crap Gene spews with his we hear & we obey, the fans are the bosses et al...
The monster of all box sets was supposed to have the Eddie & Alex VH demos included but all we got was filler & about 1 CD's worth of never before heard tracks.
$10,000 for this is an insult to the majority of fans who would like to buy it.


Hey...why didn't I buy the $75 Kiss Boxed Set?

Because it was little more than a Greatest Hits!

I paid, I THINK, $50 for the Doors Boxed set...2 discs of never before heard versions and unreleased tunes, 1 full concert, and a band favorites CD, which wasn't a greatest hits.

Kiss Boxed Set?

5 CDs...mostly heard material...sure I'd like to hear the handful of songs there I've never heard... (I don't count demos btw)

When that thing came out...it represented about 12 hours (after taxes) of working in order to get it...aka 30% of a week at work to get MOSTLY songs I already had.


First I paid less than $60 the day the box set came out at a crappy mall store. 2nd this box set will have all unreleased stuff. 3rd if the kiss box set came out the way kiss was thinking, you would have gotten a bunch of vhs tapes of shows that ended up on kissology at a much higher price.
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Post Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:47 am

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

I believe that there will be a $10k package. I think it would involve a meet and greet experience, and maybe a private solo acoustic Gene performance along with some other exclusive schwag.

There is no way for a second that I believe that will be the only way to get the 150 songs. There will be alternate packages, digital at the very least, available. It's going to end up on the internet for free download either way.
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